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Post by nolesaint on Jun 1, 2014 8:19:39 GMT -5
Grateful for the return of Sgt Bergdahl but how the administration achieved his release is frightening...  |
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Post by th24 on Jun 1, 2014 11:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by nolesaint on Jun 1, 2014 12:23:05 GMT -5
Saw that too. Certainly seems like there might be more than meets the eye waiting behind the curtain... |
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Post by th24 on Jun 1, 2014 12:49:55 GMT -5
Question: Why wasn't Congress notified before Gitmo exchange?
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Post by indian82 on Jun 1, 2014 16:05:02 GMT -5
Yeah - This definitely not clear cut. Good to get a guy back home, but the negotiations are certainly questionable. Esp 5 Taliban for 1 and release to Qatar (?) but the circumstances of his 'capture' are also fishy. Seems like a very tainted win for the administration.
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Post by nolesaint on Jun 1, 2014 17:32:10 GMT -5
Yeah - This definitely not clear cut. Good to get a guy back home, but the negotiations are certainly questionable. Esp 5 Taliban for 1 and release to Qatar (?) but the circumstances of his 'capture' are also fishy. Seems like a very tainted win for the administration. I82 - no offense but to consider this a real win in any way shape or form is a gross miscalculation in my opinion. We now have told our enemies that we'll give them their leaders back while we are still 'at war' and we gave 5 truly high value guys for one US soldier. And there are very real and serious questions about how that soldier ended up 'in captivity'... If you don't know what I mean google him and you'll find a lot a info about him and his father. WTF!? Now what can possibly said in the future to the families of soldiers injured or killed by these 5 men's hands/plans? This is a horrible horrible horrible decision! |
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Post by gorvy on Jun 1, 2014 17:59:33 GMT -5
This situation is troubling.
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Post by indian82 on Jun 1, 2014 18:09:44 GMT -5
Yeah - This definitely not clear cut. Good to get a guy back home, but the negotiations are certainly questionable. Esp 5 Taliban for 1 and release to Qatar (?) but the circumstances of his 'capture' are also fishy. Seems like a very tainted win for the administration. I82 - no offense but to consider this a real win in any way shape or form is a gross miscalculation in my opinion. We now have told our enemies that we'll give them their leaders back while we are still 'at war' and we gave 5 truly high value guys for one US soldier. And there are very real and serious questions about how that soldier ended up 'in captivity'... If you don't know what I mean google him and you'll find a lot a info about him and his father. WTF!? Now what can possibly said in the future to the families of soldiers injured or killed by these 5 men's hands/plans? This is a horrible horrible horrible decision! That was what I was trying to say, but as far as a 'win' goes, an American is home and the admin is already touting it as a victory. www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27655308But I agree, this was horrible foreign policy. |
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Post by CellarRat on Jun 3, 2014 18:24:23 GMT -5
Liberals are silent. This administration is a disgrace, only opaque spectacled folks like MP could find logic in this administration's thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 5:35:50 GMT -5
I am sure that the few "non-liberal" posters on this board/thread will be among the first to testify before the House and Senate "Hindsight is 20/20" Committees! They clearly know more about this situation than many in Washington are willing to share with the public YET! Clearly CellarRat has supernatural powers enabling him to read my mind before I have even heard both sides - there clearly is much more to this story than that released so far. Gorvy, IMO, made the only well reasoned post - I agree, this is very troubling but unlike the rest of you, I'm not jumping to conclusions this early.
The things I do know at this point:
Bergdahl will be prosecuted by the military if the story about leaving his post proves factual.
The previous Administration clearly put us into a war in a country (Afghanistan) with a terrorist group (Taliban) in its government - the ban on negotiating with terrorists would leave us with no escape clause!
We should have quietly executed all of the terrorist prisoners after capture/interrogation rather than taking the high-American road and putting them in Gitmo awaiting some form of "justice"!
Reports from some Republican leaders say that some 35% of released terrorists find their way back into combat - since we claim we don't know where any of these terrorists are, how do we know who they are? What am I missing?
Ok - CR - have at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by th24 on Jun 4, 2014 6:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by indian82 on Jun 4, 2014 6:41:01 GMT -5
I am sure that the few "non-liberal" posters on this board/thread will be among the first to testify before the House and Senate "Hindsight is 20/20" Committees! They clearly know more about this situation than many in Washington are willing to share with the public YET! Clearly CellarRat has supernatural powers enabling him to read my mind before I have even heard both sides - there clearly is much more to this story than that released so far. Gorvy, IMO, made the only well reasoned post - I agree, this is very troubling but unlike the rest of you, I'm not jumping to conclusions this early. The things I do know at this point: Bergdahl will be prosecuted by the military if the story about leaving his post proves factual. The previous Administration clearly put us into a war in a country (Afghanistan) with a terrorist group (Taliban) in its government - the ban on negotiating with terrorists would leave us with no escape clause! We should have quietly executed all of the terrorist prisoners after capture/interrogation rather than taking the high-American road and putting them in Gitmo awaiting some form of "justice"! Reports from some Republican leaders say that some 35% of released terrorists find their way back into combat - since we claim we don't know where any of these terrorists are, how do we know who they are? What am I missing? Ok - CR - have at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MP I will take a crack first. Yes, there could be more info that we don't know. But here's the possibilities. A. More info proves that this deal was smart for us. B. More info proves its as bad or worse than we fear. C. There is no more info. What will this show?? I lean toward incompetence and a lack of foreign policy. I will say again that a free state has to question the decisions of its leaders. How long do you accept this before we know anything and have blind faith in this admin? A couple other things. Why did some in the admin state unequivocally that Bergdahl served his country admirably when at the least we know that is in question. Rice said this on a Sunday show (see a pattern?). It's these patterns that are making me question the competence or even motives more and more. I will try to get back to this when I have more time. |
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Post by indian82 on Jun 4, 2014 7:09:21 GMT -5
One more thing on this related to not telling Congress. We were told that this was necessary because Bergdahl may not have made the 30 day waiting period. Well, he looked OK in that video. I know..there might be more info, but even Dianne Feinstein agrees with me on that.
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