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Post by sienasoup on Mar 12, 2024 17:08:17 GMT -5
Regardless of what happens this evening, and I hope this is an epic beatdown ala the loss Beyer suffered in his last game as Siena coach, the team is still going to finish with 28 losses. I never thought I would see the day. I remember Bennerman's sophomore season when Siena finished 16-13 and everyone was pissed off about it, including Mike Deane. 16-13. 4-28....5-28?
There was opportunity missed by Carm to lay the foundation for this abortion of a season. He should have put the focus on these freshman right from the start - "We know we're going to struggle early, but we'll be better by March. The freshman are going to be the foundation for this team over the next few years and we're going to play them a ton of minutes, let them play through mistakes and they will be a fun team to root for...and, hopefully, come March we'll be playing our best."
Instead, he put all of them in awful/impossible situations (why was Max Frazier inbounding from side out in crunch time of two straight games - he threw the ball away both times, and we didn't see him for 2 months - why is a freshman big charged with doing that?) and eventually handed over the keys to the program to a scrub walk-on.
If those freshman were all working on 800 minutes of playing time and the team pushed the ball to try and get easy baskets and quick shots (instead of running a halfcourt 1980s offense with no point guard) they would have figured it out. They would have gotten blown out a bunch of times - but eventually Bralyn and Max and Ojo and Evbags would have started to deliver some beatings in conference. Maybe they win 10 games, but show flashes of promise and then squeak out a MAAC QF win...that is a worthy run and everyone feels a little better about the direction of the program. Instead, Carm let some scrub walk-on live out some sort of dream at the expense of a D1 basketball program - it is wildly negligent, at best.
For that, I hope Siena gets drilled by 40 tonight and the new MAAC commissioner shits all over Siena just like Ensor did 25 years ago with Beyer.
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Post by sienasoup on Mar 12, 2024 17:08:42 GMT -5
Well the game is at least 45 minutes delayed and probably more delays to come. 10:30 is the earliest tipoff. Carm will say they advanced to Wednesday.
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Post by SienaRocks on Mar 12, 2024 19:44:11 GMT -5
Who are the two poor saps who voted for Siena? I was one of them but only because I clicked the wrong box!
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Post by gorvy on Mar 12, 2024 19:47:42 GMT -5
Who are the two poor saps who voted for Siena? I was one of them but only because I clicked the wrong box! 🤣
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Post by gorvy on Mar 12, 2024 19:51:39 GMT -5
Regardless of what happens this evening, and I hope this is an epic beatdown ala the loss Beyer suffered in his last game as Siena coach, the team is still going to finish with 28 losses. I never thought I would see the day. I remember Bennerman's sophomore season when Siena finished 16-13 and everyone was pissed off about it, including Mike Deane. 16-13. 4-28....5-28? There was opportunity missed by Carm to lay the foundation for this abortion of a season. He should have put the focus on these freshman right from the start - "We know we're going to struggle early, but we'll be better by March. The freshman are going to be the foundation for this team over the next few years and we're going to play them a ton of minutes, let them play through mistakes and they will be a fun team to root for...and, hopefully, come March we'll be playing our best." Instead, he put all of them in awful/impossible situations (why was Max Frazier inbounding from side out in crunch time of two straight games - he threw the ball away both times, and we didn't see him for 2 months - why is a freshman big charged with doing that?) and eventually handed over the keys to the program to a scrub walk-on. If those freshman were all working on 800 minutes of playing time and the team pushed the ball to try and get easy baskets and quick shots (instead of running a halfcourt 1980s offense with no point guard) they would have figured it out. They would have gotten blown out a bunch of times - but eventually Bralyn and Max and Ojo and Evbags would have started to deliver some beatings in conference. Maybe they win 10 games, but show flashes of promise and then squeak out a MAAC QF win...that is a worthy run and everyone feels a little better about the direction of the program. Instead, Carm let some scrub walk-on live out some sort of dream at the expense of a D1 basketball program - it is wildly negligent, at best. For that, I hope Siena gets drilled by 40 tonight and the new MAAC commissioner shits all over Siena just like Ensor did 25 years ago with Beyer. I can't believe that was 25 years ago but it happened. I remember like it was yesterday. That won't happen in today's pc world.
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Post by gradfan on Mar 12, 2024 20:23:18 GMT -5
Regardless of what happens this evening, and I hope this is an epic beatdown ala the loss Beyer suffered in his last game as Siena coach, the team is still going to finish with 28 losses. I never thought I would see the day. I remember Bennerman's sophomore season when Siena finished 16-13 and everyone was pissed off about it, including Mike Deane. 16-13. 4-28....5-28? There was opportunity missed by Carm to lay the foundation for this abortion of a season. He should have put the focus on these freshman right from the start - "We know we're going to struggle early, but we'll be better by March. The freshman are going to be the foundation for this team over the next few years and we're going to play them a ton of minutes, let them play through mistakes and they will be a fun team to root for...and, hopefully, come March we'll be playing our best." Instead, he put all of them in awful/impossible situations (why was Max Frazier inbounding from side out in crunch time of two straight games - he threw the ball away both times, and we didn't see him for 2 months - why is a freshman big charged with doing that?) and eventually handed over the keys to the program to a scrub walk-on. If those freshman were all working on 800 minutes of playing time and the team pushed the ball to try and get easy baskets and quick shots (instead of running a halfcourt 1980s offense with no point guard) they would have figured it out. They would have gotten blown out a bunch of times - but eventually Bralyn and Max and Ojo and Evbags would have started to deliver some beatings in conference. Maybe they win 10 games, but show flashes of promise and then squeak out a MAAC QF win...that is a worthy run and everyone feels a little better about the direction of the program. Instead, Carm let some scrub walk-on live out some sort of dream at the expense of a D1 basketball program - it is wildly negligent, at best. For that, I hope Siena gets drilled by 40 tonight and the new MAAC commissioner shits all over Siena just like Ensor did 25 years ago with Beyer. Carm doesn’t develop players and is the worst in game coach we ever had. I agree those scholarship players should have played most of the minutes but Carm can’t develop players so it didn’t matter. Is there one player that made a marked improvement since the beginning of the year??
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Post by saints15 on Mar 12, 2024 20:28:22 GMT -5
Regardless of what happens this evening, and I hope this is an epic beatdown ala the loss Beyer suffered in his last game as Siena coach, the team is still going to finish with 28 losses. I never thought I would see the day. I remember Bennerman's sophomore season when Siena finished 16-13 and everyone was pissed off about it, including Mike Deane. 16-13. 4-28....5-28? There was opportunity missed by Carm to lay the foundation for this abortion of a season. He should have put the focus on these freshman right from the start - "We know we're going to struggle early, but we'll be better by March. The freshman are going to be the foundation for this team over the next few years and we're going to play them a ton of minutes, let them play through mistakes and they will be a fun team to root for...and, hopefully, come March we'll be playing our best." Instead, he put all of them in awful/impossible situations (why was Max Frazier inbounding from side out in crunch time of two straight games - he threw the ball away both times, and we didn't see him for 2 months - why is a freshman big charged with doing that?) and eventually handed over the keys to the program to a scrub walk-on. If those freshman were all working on 800 minutes of playing time and the team pushed the ball to try and get easy baskets and quick shots (instead of running a halfcourt 1980s offense with no point guard) they would have figured it out. They would have gotten blown out a bunch of times - but eventually Bralyn and Max and Ojo and Evbags would have started to deliver some beatings in conference. Maybe they win 10 games, but show flashes of promise and then squeak out a MAAC QF win...that is a worthy run and everyone feels a little better about the direction of the program. Instead, Carm let some scrub walk-on live out some sort of dream at the expense of a D1 basketball program - it is wildly negligent, at best. For that, I hope Siena gets drilled by 40 tonight and the new MAAC commissioner shits all over Siena just like Ensor did 25 years ago with Beyer. Carm doesn’t develop players and is the worst in game coach we ever had. I agree those scholarship players should have played most of the minutes but Carm can’t develop players so it didn’t matter. Is there one player that made a marked improvement since the beginning of the year?? I would say Ojo improved significantly during the year and then for only reasons Carm could conjure up he sits him for large portions of the last few games.
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Post by gradfan on Mar 12, 2024 20:32:08 GMT -5
Yep. His sitting would build his confidence!! Carm doesn’t get it.
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Post by $cott on Mar 12, 2024 21:38:53 GMT -5
OMG, OT again!
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Post by $cott on Mar 12, 2024 21:44:32 GMT -5
Good question tonight, Manhattan players have all fouled out and gone to the bench as a team player. Could we see Siena players foul out and just go straight to the locker room?
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Post by sienafanforever on Mar 12, 2024 22:17:33 GMT -5
I wonder if a MAAC tournament team has ever started 3 walk Ons? We have!
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Post by $cott on Mar 12, 2024 22:41:15 GMT -5
Did anyone catch the Sean Durugordon is available this game?
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Post by sienafanforever on Mar 12, 2024 22:46:12 GMT -5
Did anyone catch the Sean Durugordon is available this game? He’s on the bench in uniform.
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Post by $cott on Mar 12, 2024 22:52:50 GMT -5
Did anyone catch the Sean Durugordon is available this game? He’s on the bench in uniform. So Carm is benching him like Eley to play his faves.
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Post by $cott on Mar 12, 2024 22:58:18 GMT -5
There is a team that could beat Marist, it invovles Eley, Durugordon, and Tekin all going rogue against Carm.
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