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Post by indian82 on Apr 19, 2020 19:36:04 GMT -5
Anybody find it odd that Singelais has not tweeted this yet?
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Post by MTS on Apr 19, 2020 19:39:06 GMT -5
Still no back up center for this year, and we signed two centers in 3 days?? So in '21-'22, we ll have 3 centers, Young, Arrington and Stormo??? Two juniors and a senior. From what I gather Carm wants three 5 men on the roster and we won’t need to recruit a frosh big for the next two years. Now it makes more sense because it the MM level frosh big men take a year to develop anyway. I think like GS said we add a grad big for the final spot — if someone like Ratliff were to move on then you’d have one to hold like the two years when we added Burns and Tate during the season. Unless the rule goes into effect now both Arrington and Stormo have to sit. So next year you’ll have Young, Tate and TBD grad at the 5. The following year Young, Tate, Arrington. Stormo. But with Manny graduated Tate probably plays all of his time at PF. Then you have BK too added into the mix. Thus don’t expect any frosh big men for a while. I think we’ll look solely at guards and wings. Wonder if they know Kobe Knox is prepping and moved on?
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 19, 2020 19:40:14 GMT -5
Anybody find it odd that Singelais has not tweeted this yet? He usually get all his scoop from our board so maybe he hasn’t read the board in a few hours.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 19, 2020 19:41:46 GMT -5
Still no back up center for this year, and we signed two centers in 3 days?? So in '21-'22, we ll have 3 centers, Young, Arrington and Stormo??? Two juniors and a senior. From what I gather Carm wants three 5 men on the roster and we won’t need to recruit a frosh big for the next two years. Now it makes more sense because it the MM level frosh big men take a year to develop anyway. I think like GS said we add a grad big for the final spot — if someone like Ratliff were to move on then you’d have one to hold like the two years when we added Burns and Tate during the season. Unless the rule goes into effect now both Arrington and Stormo have to sit. So next year you’ll have Young, Tate and TBD grad at the 5. The following year Young, Tate, Arrington. Stormo. But with Manny graduated Tate probably plays all of his time at PF. Then you have BK too added into the mix. Thus don’t expect any frosh big men for a while. I think we’ll look solely at guards and wings. Wonder if they know Kobe Knox is prepping and moved on? We are recruiting a bunch of 21 kids who are 6-7, 6-8 and probably lead for Chimize
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Post by saints22 on Apr 19, 2020 20:06:36 GMT -5
going from malibu to loudonville...quite a change in weather! Travel companion for Gary Harris?
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Post by knicksaint on Apr 19, 2020 20:34:47 GMT -5
I’ll admit to being a bit confused. If Stormo committed last Tuesday (4/16), and was seen as a sit one, play two, why would Carm then accept Arrington’s commitment Thursday as a sit one, play one? Both are 5’s and we will have three true 5’s on the 21-22 roster and two on the 22-23 roster. While MTS suggested we may not need to recruit any more 5’s for a couple of years, I think we will need to recruit one in the 2022 class, so he will have a year in the system before he is expected to contribute meaningfully as a soph in 2023-24.
In the meantime we have one left for this year and are now expected to have two for next year.
I’m sure Carm has his reasons, which is why he’s the coach and I am just a fan. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 19, 2020 20:34:55 GMT -5
This makes absolutely no sense after the Kyle A commit. Three 5’s all with the same attributes ?🤔? Neither Kyle or Jackson are available this year?
Real head-scratcher!
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 19, 2020 21:28:52 GMT -5
From what I gather Carm wants three 5 men on the roster and we won’t need to recruit a frosh big for the next two years. Now it makes more sense because it the MM level frosh big men take a year to develop anyway. I think like GS said we add a grad big for the final spot — if someone like Ratliff were to move on then you’d have one to hold like the two years when we added Burns and Tate during the season. Unless the rule goes into effect now both Arrington and Stormo have to sit. So next year you’ll have Young, Tate and TBD grad at the 5. The following year Young, Tate, Arrington. Stormo. But with Manny graduated Tate probably plays all of his time at PF. Then you have BK too added into the mix. Thus don’t expect any frosh big men for a while. I think we’ll look solely at guards and wings. Wonder if they know Kobe Knox is prepping and moved on? We are recruiting a bunch of 21 kids who are 6-7, 6-8 and probably lead for Chimize MTS just said we wont be taking any other bigs for the next two years??
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 19, 2020 21:44:04 GMT -5
We are recruiting a bunch of 21 kids who are 6-7, 6-8 and probably lead for Chimize MTS just said we wont be taking any other bigs for the next two years?? MTS can’t focus with all this Trump time on TV
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Post by Tony on Apr 20, 2020 3:48:31 GMT -5
Something doesnt seem right- commitment doesnt make sense to me, Either taking Arrington or Stormo is fine, but taking both doesnt make much sense to me. But I'm just a fan
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Post by IndianSaint on Apr 20, 2020 7:35:10 GMT -5
Just some thoughts as to why we offered these two bigs that people seem concerned about.
1. Is it possible we offered both around the same time and maybe one or both accepted sooner than staff thought? Meaning they would have liked one committing by maybe not both and they felt compelled of allow both. I personally don’t think this is the case; just throwing it out there as a possibility.
2. Maybe the staff wanted/needed big men for practices (meaning “if” you’re going to carry extra scholarship practice players we already have enough guards/forwards maybe they wanted extra bigs)?
3. “If” you’re going to recruit bigs, maybe getting transfers is better than waiting for freshmen that drop to MAAC level to develop?
4. Think big! Maybe we’re focusing too much at MAAC level and missing the bigger picture - that is after we win MAAC Tournament we may need more bigs to compete in NCAA Tournament to get to sweet 16?
5. With the year of extra practices for these two bigs maybe staff felt they could get them to improve in areas their other coaches failed to improve upon or simply didn’t want/need them to do? This staff saw potential to nurture?
6. Running out of ideas this early in the morning.
7. Carm & staff haven’t given me anything to be concerned about yet so I’m trusting them and figure they know what they’re doing so I’m ok with their decision.
8. I’m not going to mention any negatives but like someone else posted maybe a big may leave (I highly doubt it personally) and/or maybe they’ve got an indication that one or more of the 21 or 22 bigs they’re after won’t come to Siena (again I don’t think this is it but it’s a possibility).
I’m just going to go with “trust in Carm & staff” and see where it takes us.
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Post by notomo on Apr 20, 2020 8:09:16 GMT -5
I like #4 on your list of possibilities. Playing the long game they'll need some bodies to board with the big timers.
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Post by musicman on Apr 20, 2020 8:18:31 GMT -5
A lot of good questions from our membership here. That's why we're all on here. It may be a head scratcher but this staff hasn't done too many things that haven't had positive results. Everyone seems to agree that this staff has a plan and a vision. If this staff collectively likes this strategy or these recent signees I have no good reason to think they don't know what they are doing. This is what they do professionally for a job. So far, a job very well done! So I do understand why everyone is slightly miffed and questioning this move. It's actually good reading and helps break up our present long boring days.! But, in Carm, Bob, Antoni and Harley we trust !! They're doing a hell of a job! Time will tell.
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Post by jerseysaint on Apr 20, 2020 8:24:02 GMT -5
Sign of trust in young? The staff believes he can take the next step and they don’t need to recruit over him. Take guys you know can fill a role and will contribute on and off the court. My guess
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Post by nolesaint on Apr 20, 2020 8:25:05 GMT -5
Just some thoughts as to why we offered these two bigs that people seem concerned about. 1. Is it possible we offered both around the same time and maybe one or both accepted sooner than staff thought? Meaning they would have liked one committing by maybe not both and they felt compelled of allow both. I personally don’t think this is the case; just throwing it out there as a possibility. 2. Maybe the staff wanted/needed big men for practices (meaning “if” you’re going to carry extra scholarship practice players we already have enough guards/forwards maybe they wanted extra bigs)? 3. “If” you’re going to recruit bigs, maybe getting transfers is better than waiting for freshmen that drop to MAAC level to develop? 4. Think big! Maybe we’re focusing too much at MAAC level and missing the bigger picture - that is after we win MAAC Tournament we may need more bigs to compete in NCAA Tournament to get to sweet 16? 5. With the year of extra practices for these two bigs maybe staff felt they could get them to improve in areas their other coaches failed to improve upon or simply didn’t want/need them to do? This staff saw potential to nurture? 6. Running out of ideas this early in the morning. 7. Carm & staff haven’t given me anything to be concerned about yet so I’m trusting them and figure they know what they’re doing so I’m ok with their decision. 8. I’m not going to mention any negatives but like someone else posted maybe a big may leave (I highly doubt it personally) and/or maybe they’ve got an indication that one or more of the 21 or 22 bigs they’re after won’t come to Siena (again I don’t think this is it but it’s a possibility). I’m just going to go with “trust in Carm & staff” and see where it takes us. In both 2nd round losses that I watched in person the biggest difference wa Siena’s inability to compete in the paint later in each half.
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