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Post by musicman on Apr 24, 2020 17:44:49 GMT -5
You're probably just being sarcastic but whatever. Assuming BK is simply too skinny for year 1...I foresee something like this if Carpenter is pretty good: PG- Pickett 6-4 _____(33)_Carpenter 6-5_ (7) SG- Carey 6-5 _____ (30) _King 6-0 ____ (10) SF- Carpenter 6-5 __ (23)_ Harris 6-6 ____ (12) _Tate 6-7 _____ (5) PF- Camper 6-7 ____ (33) _Tate 6-7 _____ (7) C- Young 6-9 ______ (20)_ Golson 6-7 ___(15)_Tate 6-7 _____ (5)_ Kwiecinski 6-8 Total Minutes: Pickett - 33 Camper - 33 Carey - 30 Carpenter - 30 Young - 20 Tate - 17 Golson - 15 Harris - 12 King - 10 Kwiecinski - 0 If BK gets in there somehow...then all bets are off. Harris only averaged 19 mpg THIS year. With Carpenter and Tate around, it would make sense for his mins to tighten unless he learns to shoot and create. For Tate to have more minutes...I personally think he'd have to cut into Young and Golson's time before he cuts more into the SF minutes. You COULD cut Carey and Carpenter down to 25 mins...but I still think those guard mins might go to King and Harris before Tate. Harris is better at defending guards and King just shoots so well. Tate's best chance is to be really athletic in the Pickett and Roll and take some more minutes from Young/Golson. I definitely think you have suggested, in the latter part of your comments, what should happen. We have all this talent and Carm wants to run. If these kids are playing pressure defense and are working as hard defensively as our coaches want them to, 1st string players such as Carey shouldn't be playing 32 or 33 minutes a game. 22-28 minutes, depending on the individual player being discussed, should be about right! Heavy D and a long bench for fresh legs.
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Post by MTS on Apr 24, 2020 19:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by indian82 on Apr 25, 2020 8:54:36 GMT -5
I assume this is what you are referring to. Maybe it's me, but it seems so poorly worded. They're voting next month or they're not? I took it they are still voting in May, but I'm not sure what the 'moratorium' is.
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Post by saints15 on Apr 26, 2020 10:46:10 GMT -5
I assume this is what you are referring to. Maybe it's me, but it seems so poorly worded. They're voting next month or they're not? I took it they are still voting in May, but I'm not sure what the 'moratorium' is. I thought it was very poorly worded too. Typical NCAA doubletalk. I think most of us agree this would kill low/mid majors. But I have 2 questions I haven’t seen answers on; - who is on the committee pushing this rule change? I assume a majority are from Power Conferences, so I see it getting approved by that committee - but doesn’t it have to pass a majority vote of all members? There are a lot more low/mid high//mid majors so won’t it fail there, or does the NCAA committee/leadership just get to make the change and there is no vote by all schools?
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Post by Tony on Apr 26, 2020 14:34:21 GMT -5
I assume this is what you are referring to. Maybe it's me, but it seems so poorly worded. They're voting next month or they're not? I took it they are still voting in May, but I'm not sure what the 'moratorium' is. I thought it was very poorly worded too. Typical NCAA doubletalk. I think most of us agree this would kill low/mid majors. But I have 2 questions I haven’t seen answers on; - who is on the committee pushing this rule change? I assume a majority are from Power Conferences, so I see it getting approved by that committee - but doesn’t it have to pass a majority vote of all members? There are a lot more low/mid high//mid majors so won’t it fail there, or does the NCAA committee/leadership just get to make the change and there is no vote by all schools? The rules were changed a few years ago when P5 schools threaten to leave NCAA- the P5 schools now control 51% of the vote- so if they all stick together they can force the rule change
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Post by IndianSaint on May 7, 2020 8:42:58 GMT -5
Well, we now have more insight into why the coaching staff wanted more big men. Seems that they not only want to find the best players available that fit our system (skill, academic, personality wise, etc.) but also needed more bigs for practices. Last year we really only had Sammy & Kyle playing the 5 during most practices (Burns being rested during most practices to save knee for games and Denzel was unavailable most of the year). That all coupled with the philosophy of limiting true freshmen recruits to no more than 2-3 in any year.
Now we’ll have up to 6-7 bigs, who could play the 5, available for practice this year. Not only will this help in the young 4-5’s in development playing against seasoned 5’s but should also provide our 4 & 5’s good practice workouts which should only help improve their game as well. Plus it’ll give our 4-5’s who have to dit our all the more time to learn our system for the following season.
This sounds like a solid well thought out plan to me. Staff not only thinking about this season but planning for the future as well.
I’m now less concerned (although I wasn’t necessarily as concerned as some were) on any of these recruiting decisions. I see the Team getting better with these recruits,
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 7, 2020 10:34:34 GMT -5
Well, we now have more insight into why the coaching staff wanted more big men. Seems that they not only want to find the best players available that fit our system (skill, academic, personality wise, etc.) but also needed more bigs for practices. Last year we really only had Sammy & Kyle playing the 5 during most practices (Burns being rested during most practices to save knee for games and Denzel was unavailable most of the year). That all coupled with the philosophy of limiting true freshmen recruits to no more than 2-3 in any year. Now we’ll have up to 6-7 bigs, who could play the 5, available for practice this year. Not only will this help in the young 4-5’s in development playing against seasoned 5’s but should also provide our 4 & 5’s good practice workouts which should only help improve their game as well. Plus it’ll give our 4-5’s who have to dit our all the more time to learn our system for the following season. This sounds like a solid well thought out plan to me. Staff not only thinking about this season but planning for the future as well. I’m now less concerned (although I wasn’t necessarily as concerned as some were) on any of these recruiting decisions. I see the Team getting better with these recruits, Sorry, still doesnt make sense to me. Game is moving away from centers. Has been for awhile. We had 4 centers on our roster last year. Since one was a walk on, not a big deal.
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Post by Tony on May 7, 2020 11:33:40 GMT -5
Well, we now have more insight into why the coaching staff wanted more big men. Seems that they not only want to find the best players available that fit our system (skill, academic, personality wise, etc.) but also needed more bigs for practices. Last year we really only had Sammy & Kyle playing the 5 during most practices (Burns being rested during most practices to save knee for games and Denzel was unavailable most of the year). That all coupled with the philosophy of limiting true freshmen recruits to no more than 2-3 in any year. Now we’ll have up to 6-7 bigs, who could play the 5, available for practice this year. Not only will this help in the young 4-5’s in development playing against seasoned 5’s but should also provide our 4 & 5’s good practice workouts which should only help improve their game as well. Plus it’ll give our 4-5’s who have to dit our all the more time to learn our system for the following season. This sounds like a solid well thought out plan to me. Staff not only thinking about this season but planning for the future as well. I’m now less concerned (although I wasn’t necessarily as concerned as some were) on any of these recruiting decisions. I see the Team getting better with these recruits, Sorry, still doesnt make sense to me. Game is moving away from centers. Has been for awhile. We had 4 centers on our roster last year. Since one was a walk on, not a big deal. Did we have 4 centers last year-- or did we have two scholarship Centers, a walk on and a stretch 4 that played the the 5 spot?
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Post by IndianSaint on May 7, 2020 12:12:13 GMT -5
Well, we now have more insight into why the coaching staff wanted more big men. Seems that they not only want to find the best players available that fit our system (skill, academic, personality wise, etc.) but also needed more bigs for practices. Last year we really only had Sammy & Kyle playing the 5 during most practices (Burns being rested during most practices to save knee for games and Denzel was unavailable most of the year). That all coupled with the philosophy of limiting true freshmen recruits to no more than 2-3 in any year. Now we’ll have up to 6-7 bigs, who could play the 5, available for practice this year. Not only will this help in the young 4-5’s in development playing against seasoned 5’s but should also provide our 4 & 5’s good practice workouts which should only help improve their game as well. Plus it’ll give our 4-5’s who have to dit our all the more time to learn our system for the following season. This sounds like a solid well thought out plan to me. Staff not only thinking about this season but planning for the future as well. I’m now less concerned (although I wasn’t necessarily as concerned as some were) on any of these recruiting decisions. I see the Team getting better with these recruits, Sorry, still doesnt make sense to me. Game is moving away from centers. Has been for awhile. We had 4 centers on our roster last year. Since one was a walk on, not a big deal. Well, it makes sense to the coaches and that’s good enough for me. Besides it seems like most of the 6-7 guys who could play the 5 can also play the 4 if needed. This goes along w/coaching staffs trying to get more versatile players.
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Post by IndianSaint on May 7, 2020 12:17:44 GMT -5
Sorry, still doesnt make sense to me. Game is moving away from centers. Has been for awhile. We had 4 centers on our roster last year. Since one was a walk on, not a big deal. Did we have 4 centers last year-- or did we have two scholarship Centers, a walk on and a stretch 4 that played the the 5 spot? We had 4 guys who could play center but only two were available for practices. Now we’ll have at least 2 players who can play center in each practice team. Now that I see the staff trying not to bring in more than 3 true freshmen at a time it makes sense to also bring in more experienced D1 players that fit our system & academics. This type of recruiting has been successful for Iona & UA (at least for in conference play). I believe this will not only help Siena win the conference but may position us for NCAA wins hopefully in the near future.
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Post by $cott on May 7, 2020 13:02:28 GMT -5
Carm is taking a safe route. He's making sure he will have enough bigs even if it means bringing in role players early. Personally I would rather swing for the fences now and try and grow the program into only taking A10 caliber players early and settling for MAAC guys when you run out of higher options. But then again if Carm takes that gamble and it backfires and he gets fired it is life altering for him while for me I just move on to the next coach and keep watching Siena basketball. I'm hopeful that as Carm solidifies his legacy he will be willing to take more risks to grow the program as he no longer has the risk of losing his job to worry about.
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Post by rpize24 on May 8, 2020 13:14:13 GMT -5
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