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Post by diamonddog on Dec 15, 2018 22:51:23 GMT -5
Saturday December 15th
Overall: 30-70 (1-4)
Winner:
Rider beats Robert Morris by 19 at Rider
Losers:
Iona loses to Princeton by 4 at Atlantic City, NJ
Marist loses to Colgate by 16 at Colgate
Saint Peters loses to St. Francis Brooklyn by 3 at St. Francis Brooklyn
Manhttan loses to UConn by 15 at UConn
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Post by Papi on Dec 15, 2018 23:02:59 GMT -5
OMG 30%. The league is done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 0:24:33 GMT -5
OMG 30%. The league is done. Why can the MAAC be ranked lower than last?
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Post by Papi on Dec 16, 2018 8:15:36 GMT -5
OMG 30%. The league is done. Why can the MAAC be ranked lower than last? Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Dec 16, 2018 8:24:05 GMT -5
Why can the MAAC be ranked lower than last? Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. NCAA feels it needs to continue to develop “Cinderellas” for Match Madness
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Post by indian82 on Dec 16, 2018 8:31:42 GMT -5
Why can the MAAC be ranked lower than last? Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. How would that change anything? Seems to me all that does is make the lower conferences artificially feel better - rather than being the 20th ranked conf overall, now they're the 3rd best conf in the minor leagues. Like the rest of the country, awards for everybody. I'm not surprised. That philosophy is very consistent with your non-competitive spirit. Instead, work on getting better. It also changes the whole idea of the NCAA tournament where the little guy can still play Cinderella, like S1971 says above. I say get rid of the PIG games in the tournament, but that's money. It's not horrible, but I never liked expanding past 64.
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Post by olddave on Dec 16, 2018 8:33:07 GMT -5
Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. NCAA feels it needs to continue to develop “Cinderellas” for Match Madness Again MAAC self imploded through bad management, coaching. It’s a cycle, as they loose their good coach’s to the better conferences. The schools are also financial pressure so want to keep their costs down. Unfortunately their isn’t many programs like Siena Iona in the MAAC that have the history , and the backing. Look how far Manhattan has gone backwards, as well as Niagara since Joe has left. These schools are going through what Siena has for the last 8 years, unsuccessful so far but hopefully like Siena will hit a home run for the good of the league.
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Post by Papi on Dec 16, 2018 8:50:15 GMT -5
Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. How would that change anything? Seems to me all that does is make the lower conferences artificially feel better - rather than being the 20th ranked conf overall, now they're the 3rd best conf in the minor leagues. Like the rest of the country, awards for everybody. I'm not surprised. That philosophy is very consistent with your non-competitive spirit. Instead, work on getting better. It also changes the whole idea of the NCAA tournament where the little guy can still play Cinderella, like S1971 says above. I say get rid of the PIG games in the tournament, but that's money. It's not horrible, but I never liked expanding past 64. Figured you respond like that. Is winning percentage of 30% or less really competitive? Lol, can UA football be competitive in the ACC or SEC. With 200 plus you can still have 64 and March madness. You can also have 64 for the minors too. Win win for all.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 16, 2018 9:04:36 GMT -5
How would that change anything? Seems to me all that does is make the lower conferences artificially feel better - rather than being the 20th ranked conf overall, now they're the 3rd best conf in the minor leagues. Like the rest of the country, awards for everybody. I'm not surprised. That philosophy is very consistent with your non-competitive spirit. Instead, work on getting better. It also changes the whole idea of the NCAA tournament where the little guy can still play Cinderella, like S1971 says above. I say get rid of the PIG games in the tournament, but that's money. It's not horrible, but I never liked expanding past 64. Figured you respond like that. Is winning percentage of 30% or less really competitive? Lol, can UA football be competitive in the ACC or SEC. With 200 plus you can still have 64 and March madness. You can also have 64 for the minors too. Win win for all. Yes - Awards for everybody! Who the hell cared about E Michigan-Ga Southern yesterday? You haven't explained how that helps anything. NOBODY will care about the minor league tournament except the mommies and daddies and diehards of those teams. And now the small conferences get pushed out of even a CHANCE on the big stage. But YAY! We got a ribbon! And are you proposing that MAAC teams would never get to play ACC/SEC teams? It makes sense to question why D1 expanded to 350+. That's why there was D2, but we don't need ANOTHER Division. Talk about watered down. Just helps the big get bigger and shit on the small conferences. But awards for everybody! YAY!!!
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Post by mike60 on Dec 16, 2018 9:08:50 GMT -5
Why do we worry about the maac except to win it a number of times? If we can improve our team that much we will be welcome to some higher conference based on the amenities we have. Whether we then move is a decision for the administration. They have to take into consideration the other sports as well.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 16, 2018 9:15:37 GMT -5
Why can the MAAC be ranked lower than last? Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. They already have different levels but they do need to limit it to 300, that’s my argument! It was at 300 in the 80s and basketball was better then, much better. There was still room for Cinderella’s such as Siena in 1989.
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Post by Papi on Dec 16, 2018 9:16:16 GMT -5
Figured you respond like that. Is winning percentage of 30% or less really competitive? Lol, can UA football be competitive in the ACC or SEC. With 200 plus you can still have 64 and March madness. You can also have 64 for the minors too. Win win for all. Yes - Awards for everybody! Who the hell cared about E Michigan-Ga Southern yesterday? You haven't explained how that helps anything. NOBODY will care about the minor league tournament except the mommies and daddies and diehards of those teams. And now the small conferences get pushed out of even a CHANCE on the big stage. But YAY! We got a ribbon! And are you proposing that MAAC teams would never get to play ACC/SEC teams? It makes sense to question why D1 expanded to 350+. That's why there was D2, but we don't need ANOTHER Division. Talk about watered down. Just helps the big get bigger and shit on the small conferences. But awards for everybody! YAY!!! They can still play those big boys. UA played Pitt this year and will play SU next season or year after. Trust me fans would show up and true fans love seeing their team play in a bowl game. Get rid of the conference tournament and have a national tournament for the mids and low majors. If you think this is a trophy for everyone mentally, you have no clue.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 16, 2018 9:23:07 GMT -5
Look at those two records, why bother playing? I know it won't happen but they need to limit D1 basketball to less than 300. They need different levels like they do in football. How would that change anything? Seems to me all that does is make the lower conferences artificially feel better - rather than being the 20th ranked conf overall, now they're the 3rd best conf in the minor leagues. Like the rest of the country, awards for everybody. I'm not surprised. That philosophy is very consistent with your non-competitive spirit. Instead, work on getting better. It also changes the whole idea of the NCAA tournament where the little guy can still play Cinderella, like S1971 says above. I say get rid of the PIG games in the tournament, but that's money. It's not horrible, but I never liked expanding past 64. Sorry but I totally disagree. There are way too many teams in division one, that’s where they are trying to award everyone a trophy (look at me I’m division 1). They need to stop expanding and attrit back down to 300 like it used to be. Basketball does not pass the eye test anymore. Even if they are more athletic (debatable and I doubt it) the skills aren’t there. Scoring is down, shooting percentage is down, this is why you have all the insane rule changes. The real problem is the players aren’t as good overall, the coaches aren’t good and the refs aren’t good. About 1/6 of the talent in d1 are actually d2. If the ncaa was serious about improving the value of its product it would start the process of contraction. But as long as schools out there try to seek the glory (re: money) of d1 it won’t happen. It’s up to us to decide.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 16, 2018 9:34:20 GMT -5
Why do we worry about the maac except to win it a number of times? If we can improve our team that much we will be welcome to some higher conference based on the amenities we have. Whether we then move is a decision for the administration. They have to take into consideration the other sports as well. Because if other programs actually committed to basketball like they are supposed to ( this is a basketball conference) it would make for better respect when it comes to post season selection opportunities, where the real money is. Instead when Siena started dominating the other members complained and the league offices did everything they could to create parity within the league (and Siena made their own dumb decisions too). Well we have parity now.... Siena should have moved up when they had their chance but I agree maybe they will make a different decision in the future if given the chance.
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Post by Papi on Dec 16, 2018 9:35:15 GMT -5
How would that change anything? Seems to me all that does is make the lower conferences artificially feel better - rather than being the 20th ranked conf overall, now they're the 3rd best conf in the minor leagues. Like the rest of the country, awards for everybody. I'm not surprised. That philosophy is very consistent with your non-competitive spirit. Instead, work on getting better. It also changes the whole idea of the NCAA tournament where the little guy can still play Cinderella, like S1971 says above. I say get rid of the PIG games in the tournament, but that's money. It's not horrible, but I never liked expanding past 64. Sorry but I totally disagree. There are way too many teams in division one, that’s where they are trying to award everyone a trophy (look at me I’m division 1). They need to stop expanding and attrit back down to 300 like it used to be. Basketball does not pass the eye test anymore. Even if they are more athletic (debatable and I doubt it) the skills aren’t there. Scoring is down, shooting percentage is down, this is why you have all the insane rule changes. The real problem is the players aren’t as good overall, the coaches aren’t good and the refs aren’t good. About 1/6 of the talent in d1 are actually d2. If the ncaa was serious about improving the value of its product it would start the process of contraction. But as long as schools out there try to seek the glory (re: money) of d1 it won’t happen. It’s up to us to decide. It's all about the money. Look at some of the records of those 300+ coaches,bthey are getting paid for losing. Refs getting paid over $1000 for games. There is no way any realistic fan can think a low major can compete against the BCS schools. Time for a change. It happened quickly. Football only let's 4 teams compete for it's championship, the bowl games reward all others who had a good year.
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