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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 24, 2018 11:33:47 GMT -5
He’s what (?) a 21 year old frosh with a ton of experience playing against decent competitors...I’m looking forward to seeing this kid .... he just might be a pleasant surprise. Darwiche was still 19 as of the end of July. Ssssshhhhhhh! Remember Danny Almonte? Don’t let the cat out of the bag. 21
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 24, 2018 11:38:04 GMT -5
On paper that's a fair pick, seeing as how the team went 8-24 last season - and most of the best players from that team are gone. So the question is: what's left, and what can JC do with it? That will determine how well they do this year. My bet is they won't finish last, but will still be a PIG team. The last time we were in this position, Fran McCaffery inherited a 6-24 team, and then lost most of it's best players in Tommy Mitchell, Mike Haddix, Jack McClinton, and Brent Sniezyk. What was left at fist glance was a bunch of scraps. We were picked last and finished fourth. But do not expect a repeat of McCaffery's first year. It's simply not realistic. Fran had Antoine Jordan, Kojo Mensah, Tay Fisher, David Ryan,and Kenny Hasbrouck to work with. He had nothing beyond that, but all those guys ended up averaging double figures PPG, so it was enough (Ryan averaged 9.8 technically). That's three all-MAAC players and one all-MAAC rookie. Note that none of those starters from Fran's first year looked like stars the year before. So a better coach and a new system can make a big difference. While we can hope that something similar happens with this crew, it appears at first glance that Christian has nowhere near that much talent on hand. Looking at the current roster, Khalil Richard looks like the sole sure-fire consistent double-digit scorer. Fisher will have his ups and downs - looking like a star one night and a bench warmer the next. Of the freshmen, I think Seymour and Pickett have the best chance to be impact players right out of the gate. Maybe some guys like Friday or Camper will unexpectedly flourish in a new system, come out of nowhere, and surprise us just like in 2005. While things look bleak on paper, I think this team will have a few surprises in store for us. I don't think we have enough to finish 4th, but I do think with a better coach we have enough to do better than 11th. Jamion Christian's optimism and upbeat attitude about this team is contagious. I agree with a lot of this. I just won’t be surprised if the team happens to finish 4th, that’s all. I truly believe JC will get way more out of JPs recruits and many will be surprised with the new guys as well. I’m more like Gorvy and would bet/expect them to finish 6-8th. But again, won’t be surprised unless they finish 1st or 2nd. That would be a surprise even for optimistic me.
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Post by siena79 on Oct 24, 2018 11:58:45 GMT -5
I hope that these posts prove to be prophetic, but I am afraid that our excitement about Jamian, his staff and their postivity/enthusiasm may be setting expectations that will be highly improbable to meet. This was an 8-24 team which lost its top 5 players, with most remaining players having few, if any, other D1 offers. We are a D1 school playing a D1 schedule against teams with decidedly more athletic players. We need to keep our perspective and bear in mind how poor the recruiting was under JP and that this is pretty much what JC has to work with. I also am hopeful that the new staff is able to get the most out of our team and am really looking forward to watching and supporting the team, but I also am cognizant of the fact that in virtually every game we will be competing against teams with significantly "better" players than ours and we need to be patient. Lets support the team and staff, enjoy the season, and appreciate the efforts and improvements, but I think we do a disservice to the staff and team if we do not keep in mind the reality that we will still be woefully outmatched in most games. Go Saints!
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Post by Papi on Oct 24, 2018 12:51:16 GMT -5
Yes - Got to do better than 24 losses. Let's hope so. We all know what happens to any Siena coach who loses 20 or more in a season.
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Post by $cott on Oct 24, 2018 13:04:45 GMT -5
I hope that these posts prove to be prophetic, but I am afraid that our excitement about Jamian, his staff and their postivity/enthusiasm may be setting expectations that will be highly improbable to meet. This was an 8-24 team which lost its top 5 players, with most remaining players having few, if any, other D1 offers. We are a D1 school playing a D1 schedule against teams with decidedly more athletic players. We need to keep our perspective and bear in mind how poor the recruiting was under JP and that this is pretty much what JC has to work with. I also am hopeful that the new staff is able to get the most out of our team and am really looking forward to watching and supporting the team, but I also am cognizant of the fact that in virtually every game we will be competing against teams with significantly "better" players than ours and we need to be patient. Lets support the team and staff, enjoy the season, and appreciate the efforts and improvements, but I think we do a disservice to the staff and team if we do not keep in mind the reality that we will still be woefully outmatched in most games. Go Saints! Unfortunately, I have to agree with this. I thought I was being pretty optimistic picking the results of the games in the Siena Pickem Contest. Yet as I look now the 11-20 record I came up with is actually the worst record that anyone has picked. This could very easily be a single digit wins season, a lot of people seem to think we hired a different JC that can work miracles.
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Post by sky on Oct 24, 2018 13:23:37 GMT -5
If nothing else we will see the impact a decent coach will have. I dont think we had a clue what caliber talent we had the past 5 years.
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SaintMisbehavin
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Oct 24, 2018 13:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by indian82 on Oct 24, 2018 14:47:59 GMT -5
Yes - Got to do better than 24 losses. Let's hope so. We all know what happens to any Siena coach who loses 20 or more in a season. Deservedly so, if you've been on the job for more than a couple years. At least to a fan with a competitive desire to win.
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Post by MTS on Oct 24, 2018 15:17:11 GMT -5
I hope that these posts prove to be prophetic, but I am afraid that our excitement about Jamian, his staff and their postivity/enthusiasm may be setting expectations that will be highly improbable to meet. This was an 8-24 team which lost its top 5 players, with most remaining players having few, if any, other D1 offers. We are a D1 school playing a D1 schedule against teams with decidedly more athletic players. We need to keep our perspective and bear in mind how poor the recruiting was under JP and that this is pretty much what JC has to work with. I also am hopeful that the new staff is able to get the most out of our team and am really looking forward to watching and supporting the team, but I also am cognizant of the fact that in virtually every game we will be competing against teams with significantly "better" players than ours and we need to be patient. Lets support the team and staff, enjoy the season, and appreciate the efforts and improvements, but I think we do a disservice to the staff and team if we do not keep in mind the reality that we will still be woefully outmatched in most games. Go Saints! Unfortunately, I have to agree with this. I thought I was being pretty optimistic picking the results of the games in the Siena Pickem Contest. Yet as I look now the 11-20 record I came up with is actually the worst record that anyone has picked. This could very easily be a single digit wins season, a lot of people seem to think we hired a different JC that can work miracles. Hard to pick this season... No coach has taken over a worse situation. Not Hewitt. Not McCaffery. Not Jamion's predecessor. That's not an excuse - it's reality. I think it will be a successful season as long as we see the foundation being built. For instance if Pickett is one of the best frosh in the league. Darwiche and Seymour are solid contributors. Manny Camper shows that he should've been playing last year, Huerter/Friday/Richard show that bad coaching held them back and they're ready for two good seasons. I'd guess we'll be in the 10-12 win range...but it could be lower or it could be higher. If all the projected returners for 2019-2020 improve plus we add Donald Carey, Luke Sutherland and Kyle Young plus two more scholarships to use. I want to see us be a tough out at home and be competitive most nights. I don't think the MAAC is all that great.
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Post by diamonddog on Oct 24, 2018 17:15:35 GMT -5
Richards being out for the season makes me look at how the young players will develop. Lots of losses.
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Post by plassmann on Oct 24, 2018 18:48:48 GMT -5
Here's my take:
1. Rider
2. Iona
3. Canisius
3. Quinnipiac
5. Monmouth
6. Marist
7. Fairfield
8. Siena
9. Manhattan
10. Niagara
11. Saint Peter's
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Oct 25, 2018 22:05:22 GMT -5
Come on people. College Basketball Coaches have the most impact on winning or losing than in any other sport; college or pro.
I believe JC will be a Fran; Paul: Mike; John type of impact coach.
He will breed confidence; expect focus: and will deliver results; starting with a Game 1 upset of PC.
And mark my words; he will consistently win at home.
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Post by MTS on Oct 25, 2018 22:40:02 GMT -5
Come on people. College Basketball Coaches have the most impact on winning or losing than in any other sport; college or pro. I believe JC will be a Fran; Paul: Mike; John type of impact coach. He will breed confidence; expect focus: and will deliver results; starting with a Game 1 upset of PC. And mark my words; he will consistently win at home. I agree that the head coach (and his staff) is very important in college basketball and I think Jamion will be a good one. That said he took over a very tough situation. What I like is he doesn't make excuses. He is saying all the right things so far. We have to be patient with the team. I think we can surprise people this season but it might be rough for the first couple of months. We should get better as the season goes on.
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Post by sky on Oct 26, 2018 6:39:04 GMT -5
We had 8 wins last year with 15 different starting line ups. All JP did was piss into the wind and hope he didn't get wet. The number of games we lost last year because of poor coaching is uncountable. Talent aside with good coaching I can't see why we can't do AT LEAST 50% better...12 wins minimum. We are not playing ACC teams, we are playing MAAC teams. If we can't win 1/3 of our games we better give up.
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Post by mike60 on Oct 26, 2018 7:19:04 GMT -5
My hope for the season rests on player development and for that I look at the assistant coaches that the coach surrounds him self with. Carmen M's record as a defensive coach - excellent. Bousley offensive coordinator at the Mount for JC. excellent and he and JC apparently on the same page. Very important for the coach having someone he has confidence in. Devlin director of player development. Past experience very successful. Has great linkage to AAU programs. Someone some of the key players can come to. Very important. Good coaches surround themselves with good Assistants ( see Belechick) I think JC has put together an outstanding staff at the Mid Major level. Barring more crippling injuries, I see 12 14 wins.
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