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Post by saints22 on Apr 4, 2018 21:51:32 GMT -5
Your hero, donald, making fun of a person with a disability was disgusting as well. Patsos will be gone, but Siena can do better than beilein. Not sour grapes. Check his roster composition at lemoyne. Ashley Howard better choice. No politics but that's a lie - he mocked similar people such as Ted Cruz the same way. What's a lie? That Trump made fun of a person with a disability? You've got to be kidding. And it's okay because he's done the same thing to other people, including a member of the US Senate? All of the stuff you've been saying about the Siena coach applies tenfold to Trump.
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Post by MTS on Apr 4, 2018 21:52:43 GMT -5
Why get the POS a nickle?? Fire him for cause. Save time. Don’t go to court where Siena could lose and get stuck with all the money. Plus. Then Siena doesn’t look quite as bad in how they are forcing out JP. How about if Siena already offered JP $300K and he said no? This did not happen overnight. They obviously were negotiating and Siena (and this is just my speculating) got frustrated and leaked this to the media. This man has an autistic nephew - I struggle with OCD myself.... Siena needs to remove this jerk now. And yeah if he was winning I'd want him gone too.
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Post by greenblood on Apr 4, 2018 21:56:49 GMT -5
Might depend on who the new coach is....
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Post by yankee on Apr 4, 2018 21:58:22 GMT -5
Save time. Don’t go to court where Siena could lose and get stuck with all the money. Plus. Then Siena doesn’t look quite as bad in how they are forcing out JP. How about if Siena already offered JP $300K and he said no? This did not happen overnight. They obviously were negotiating and Siena (and this is just my speculating) got frustrated and leaked this to the media. This man has an autism nephew - I struggle with OCD (though not as bad as this poor kid does).... Siena needs to remove this bastard now. And yeah if he was winning I'd want him gone too. Well then you should want the president gone too. I agree they both need to go. Can't mock the disabled. We know Trump did, and looks like Patsos could have if these accusations are true. If true, BOTH need to go. Or else you are being a fraud with this MTS. You can't say Patsos is horrible for this but it is ok for our PRESIDENT to do so.
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Post by MTS on Apr 4, 2018 22:00:37 GMT -5
How about if Siena already offered JP $300K and he said no? This did not happen overnight. They obviously were negotiating and Siena (and this is just my speculating) got frustrated and leaked this to the media. This man has an autism nephew - I struggle with OCD (though not as bad as this poor kid does).... Siena needs to remove this bastard now. And yeah if he was winning I'd want him gone too. Well then you should want the president gone too. I agree they both need to go. Can't mock the disabled. We know Trump did, and looks like Patsos could have if these accusations are true. If true, BOTH need to go. Or else you are being a fraud with this MTS. You can't say Patsos is horrible for this but it is ok for our PRESIDENT to do so. Just stop dude we're not talking politics. Go back to resisting.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 4, 2018 22:01:39 GMT -5
Let's all try to be honest here. IF verbal abuse is going to his fireable offense, it could/should have been done years ago. Only reason it wasn't was: 1) had a successful first year 2) wasn't owed 750k. Why this is suddenly an issue in year 5 is a joke.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 4, 2018 22:02:09 GMT -5
How about if Siena already offered JP $300K and he said no? This did not happen overnight. They obviously were negotiating and Siena (and this is just my speculating) got frustrated and leaked this to the media. This man has an autism nephew - I struggle with OCD (though not as bad as this poor kid does).... Siena needs to remove this bastard now. And yeah if he was winning I'd want him gone too. Well then you should want the president gone too. I agree they both need to go. Can't mock the disabled. We know Trump did, and looks like Patsos could have if these accusations are true. If true, BOTH need to go. Or else you are being a fraud with this MTS. You can't say Patsos is horrible for this but it is ok for our PRESIDENT to do so. When you’re “winning” things are different. 😜
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Post by saints22 on Apr 4, 2018 22:04:16 GMT -5
Sure. Many were obviously looking for a change. Are you saying you know these charges are false? Just because of the timing does not mean it's a witch hunt. NOBODY should be doing what is alleged in that article, much less a leader of college kids. We teach our 8 year olds not to bully like that. But he deserves due process. An in fact, the timing is not particularly good for the team - in the middle of the recruiting season and a month after our season was over. If this was the witch hunt you speak of, it would have happened in mid Feb - about the time Darg had his vote of confidence for the coach. Not claiming they are false at all. Just a lot to be skeptical about. I think context is key with these things. Was he tormenting the manager, was it a joke, was it serious, what was the intent of the comments? The headlines are sensational, verbally abusing a student manager with a mental condition. yeah that's going to sound really bad. if you look at the story, the student manager has OCD, and maybe I'm being naive but my understanding is that it's a condition that makes people repeat actions or rituals. Jim Eisenreich played for the Philadelphia Phillies in the 90's with the condition. It sounds like he called him the "next uni-bomber" not exactly a crime in my book, and that the manager asked privately why he was singled out by the coach? There's also a quote by a player that says Jimmy "says some stuff". There could be more coming, and probably is with how these things play out.
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Post by legacy on Apr 4, 2018 22:05:57 GMT -5
I......told....you....all...so.... yes we did!!! - well Papi ? where are you now? still supporting your abusive bff?
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 4, 2018 22:06:02 GMT -5
Let's all try to be honest here. IF verbal abuse is going to his fireable offense, it could/should have been done years ago. Only reason it wasn't was: 1) had a successful first year 2) wasn't owed 750k. Why this is suddenly an issue in year 5 is a joke. Your comments are reasonable.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 4, 2018 22:09:42 GMT -5
Ugly court case bad for both parties, pay him and move on. If it's 2 years and bad for everybody, split the difference - unless they have some cards they aren't showing.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Apr 4, 2018 22:10:00 GMT -5
Correct. I told you all so. also rumors about an ex-player's mom shaking down free bus rides and not paying for them, and other stuff. Nit sure that mom is though Lol you really need a life fat boy
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Post by Quackman on Apr 4, 2018 22:10:08 GMT -5
Man, I fall asleep and all hell breaks out.
He’s gone, no way this story breaks and he returns. Interesting that it wasn’t the beat reporter or Iorizzo that broke the story.
Agree that the timing is suspect, especially if complaint was back in February. Also really interesting that video of the kid ends up on YouTube a couple weeks before it breaks.
Hopefully this settles quickly, will get really ugly if it doesn’t. No way PB’s father lets him take this job if this is still hanging over the program.
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Post by saints22 on Apr 4, 2018 22:12:05 GMT -5
Let's all try to be honest here. IF verbal abuse is going to his fireable offense, it could/should have been done years ago. Only reason it wasn't was: 1) had a successful first year 2) wasn't owed 750k. Why this is suddenly an issue in year 5 is a joke. Much of what you say is valid, HJ, but I don't think it's a "joke". A lot of what coaches get away with in terms of player treatment should never be allowed. Try some of that stuff in virtually any other work environment, and see how long you last as the person in charge. But even given the excesses that are accepted (though they shouldn't be), there has to be a point that, if overstepped, has to bring extreme consequences. So, even if it could have been an issue before, but wasn't, it seems to have reached a tipping point now.
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Post by saints22 on Apr 4, 2018 22:14:29 GMT -5
Man, I fall asleep and all hell breaks out. He’s gone, no way this story breaks and he returns. Interesting that it wasn’t the beat reporter or Iorizzo that broke the story. Agree that the timing is suspect, especially if complaint was back in February. Also really interesting that video of the kid ends up on YouTube a couple weeks before it breaks. Hopefully this settles quickly, will get really ugly if it doesn’t. No way PB’s father lets him take this job if this is still hanging over the program. Pete Iorizzo works for UAlbany. He left the TU about two years ago.
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