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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 9:52:15 GMT -5
things need to be sorted out, what the heck is the delay............honestly, if JP has a plan, ergo what players are leaving (whether they be shown the door or rather walking out on their own accord), then what exactly is all this dragging their feet...................the season ended in early March................programs that have a "proactive" approach to moving forward, and certainly one that just finished dead LAST in the MAAC standings, should be getting their SHEET in order pronto.............just another item that is just head scratching about how this staff goes about doing things.....................
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Post by goldsaint17 on Mar 27, 2018 9:59:32 GMT -5
You can sign over the limit. Scholarships don’t have to be cleared up until the end of June/early July. My guess is they give the players until after spring break off and then discuss that stuff with them. Siena can take commits from Timberlake, Welch, etc without others transferring first. We will have 2-3 scholarships to work with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:01:03 GMT -5
things need to be sorted out, what the heck is the delay............honestly, if JP has a plan, ergo what players are leaving (whether they be shown the door or rather walking out on their own accord), then what exactly is all this dragging their feet...................the season ended in early March................programs that have a "proactive" approach to moving forward, and certainly one that just finished dead LAST in the MAAC standings, should be getting their SHEET in order pronto.............just another item that is just head scratching about how this staff goes about doing things..................... Again, you're looking just at Siena. Per VC, only 259 Transfers have been announced this year so far. Pundits are expecting the number to be somewhere between 800 to 1,000 as per normal. If that's the case, it is still early and there are a hell of a lot of dominoes still yet to fall. Siena has clear priority targets. It's clear to both the targets and to us. If said targets want time to review with their families etc.. do you rush them weeks before the signing period even begins? These kids don't act on a Sienahoops.com timeline. They act on their own. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 10:13:27 GMT -5
things need to be sorted out, what the heck is the delay............honestly, if JP has a plan, ergo what players are leaving (whether they be shown the door or rather walking out on their own accord), then what exactly is all this dragging their feet...................the season ended in early March................programs that have a "proactive" approach to moving forward, and certainly one that just finished dead LAST in the MAAC standings, should be getting their SHEET in order pronto.............just another item that is just head scratching about how this staff goes about doing things..................... Again, you're looking just at Siena. Per VC, only 259 Transfers have been announced this year so far. Pundits are expecting the number to be somewhere between 800 to 1,000 as per normal. If that's the case, it is still early and there are a hell of a lot of dominoes still yet to fall. not the point KK, this program is a mess and needs an influx of talent...................IF the plan is to bring in new talent, which by all the reports the recruiting is showing, then deciding how things evolve should already be on the table and in place...............not after 5 more vacations..............once the season is over, the very next day is the first day of the new season..............any coach who is clearly in the "crosshairs" for next season, should be doing all that is needed to get the program back to level of success immediately...........we aren't paying him to be a "part time" assistant, could care less whether he evens get 1 day off this off season............ |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 10:20:13 GMT -5
You can sign over the limit. Scholarships don’t have to be cleared up until the end of June/early July. My guess is they give the players until after spring break off and then discuss that stuff with them. Siena can take commits from Timberlake, Welch, etc without others transferring first. We will have 2-3 scholarships to work with. that wouldn't seem legit, because then other schools would do the same thing...........the higher profile schools would just offer tons of ships to stock pile and then sift through the talent later on.........there has to be some sort of checks & balances with regards to the available #'s being offered, otherwise it is anarchy............. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:20:44 GMT -5
Again, you're looking just at Siena. Per VC, only 259 Transfers have been announced this year so far. Pundits are expecting the number to be somewhere between 800 to 1,000 as per normal. If that's the case, it is still early and there are a hell of a lot of dominoes still yet to fall. not the point KK, this program is a mess and needs an influx of talent...................IF the plan is to bring in new talent, which by all the reports the recruiting is showing, then deciding how things evolve should already be on the table and in place...............not after 5 more vacations..............once the season is over, the very next day is the first day of the new season..............any coach who is clearly in the "crosshairs" for next season, should be doing all that is needed to get the program back to level of success immediately...........we aren't paying him to be a "part time" assistant, could care less whether he evens get 1 day off this off season............ I'm not going to stick up for everything Jimmy does...but you just don't call the spring recruiting season a failure on March 27 during spring break. Schools don't finalize rosters until August. The off season roller coaster is just starting. This is like declaring a loss during the tip off. |
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Post by MTS on Mar 27, 2018 10:24:13 GMT -5
We don’t even know who is the coach for next year. Siena needs to shit or get off the pot by the end of the week. It has been eerily quiet the last two weeks after JP was making those bizarre proclamations.
And don’t give me “muh D’Arg said they were committed to JP in mid February”. He’s been asked at least twice since then and said no comment. They obviously are trying like hell to get rid of him and anyone with half a brain can clearly see that. Whether or not it happens remains to be seen but if they can’t ditch him then they need to get behind him for the upcoming season and help recruiting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:29:29 GMT -5
We don’t even know the coach for next year. Siena needs to shit or get off the pot by the end of the week. It has been eerily quiet the last two weeks after JP was making those bizarre proclamations. And don’t give me “muh D’Arg said there were committed to JP in mid February”. He’s been asked at least twice since then and said no comment. They obviously are trying like hell to get rid of him and anyone with half a brain can clearly see that. Whether or not it happens remains to be seen but if they can’t ditch him then they need to get behind him for the upcoming season and help recruiting. Ugh, whatever you say. Sabotage away. For someone who is willing tweet recruits directly to get them, you spend an odd amount of time turning around and selling them misery and despair. You should get a job selling coffins. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 10:33:26 GMT -5
not the point KK, this program is a mess and needs an influx of talent...................IF the plan is to bring in new talent, which by all the reports the recruiting is showing, then deciding how things evolve should already be on the table and in place...............not after 5 more vacations..............once the season is over, the very next day is the first day of the new season..............any coach who is clearly in the "crosshairs" for next season, should be doing all that is needed to get the program back to level of success immediately...........we aren't paying him to be a "part time" assistant, could care less whether he evens get 1 day off this off season............ I'm not going to stick up for everything Jimmy does...but you just don't call the spring recruiting season a failure on March 27 during spring break. Schools don't finalize rosters until August. The off season roller coaster is just starting. This is like declaring a loss during the tip off. who called it a failure?  ??..............the premise is, what is he doing with the current roster of players, that isn't something that you wait until August..................really? ?............. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:41:07 GMT -5
I'm not going to stick up for everything Jimmy does...but you just don't call the spring recruiting season a failure on March 27 during spring break. Schools don't finalize rosters until August. The off season roller coaster is just starting. This is like declaring a loss during the tip off. who called it a failure? ??..............the premise is, what is he doing with the current roster of players, that isn't something that you wait until August..................really? ?............. Calm down. Relax. Take deep breaths. Judge the off season as a whole. Life does not revolve around this program. I'm not saying you won't have a good idea of the roster until August...I'm just saying that players come and go until then. There were years past where Iona landed and dropped 3 or 4 players after July. Hell, one kid even died. Jimmy could land all his targets now and if, in the summer he has some transfers or someone gets injured or ineligible...people's view of the off season could change entirely. These things don't work themselves out on OUR schedule. It works out on theirs. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 10:50:58 GMT -5
who called it a failure? ??..............the premise is, what is he doing with the current roster of players, that isn't something that you wait until August..................really? ?............. Calm down. Relax. Take deep breaths. Judge the off season as a whole. Life does not revolve around this program. I'm not saying you won't have a good idea of the roster until August...I'm just saying that players come and go until then. There were years past where Iona landed and dropped 3 or 4 players after July. Hell, one kid even died. Jimmy could land all his targets now and if, in the summer he has some transfers or someone gets injured or ineligible...people's view of the off season could change entirely. These things don't work themselves out on OUR schedule. It works out on theirs. sure, no problem.........it will all work out, doesn't matter that the goal wasn't accomplished in JP's previous 5 yrs, but he will somehow make it happen next yr...........while waiting for the future as you point out, it is hard to forget about the crappy past............. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:59:49 GMT -5
Calm down. Relax. Take deep breaths. Judge the off season as a whole. Life does not revolve around this program. I'm not saying you won't have a good idea of the roster until August...I'm just saying that players come and go until then. There were years past where Iona landed and dropped 3 or 4 players after July. Hell, one kid even died. Jimmy could land all his targets now and if, in the summer he has some transfers or someone gets injured or ineligible...people's view of the off season could change entirely. These things don't work themselves out on OUR schedule. It works out on theirs. sure, no problem.........it will all work out, doesn't matter that the goal wasn't accomplished in JP's previous 5 yrs, but he will somehow make it happen next yr...........while waiting for the future as you point out, it is hard to forget about the crappy past............. Projecting your fears on the board based on past disappointments won't help the recruiting situation so why do it? We're all in 'wait and see' mode. Throwing out negativity may be cathartic to you, but it doesn't really help anything. We just have to wait and see how this all plays out. Play some tiddlywinks or something while we wait for news. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 27, 2018 11:11:46 GMT -5
sure, no problem.........it will all work out, doesn't matter that the goal wasn't accomplished in JP's previous 5 yrs, but he will somehow make it happen next yr...........while waiting for the future as you point out, it is hard to forget about the crappy past............. Projecting your fears on the board based on past disappointments won't help the recruiting situation so why do it? We're all in 'wait and see' mode. Throwing out negativity may be cathartic to you, but it doesn't really help anything. We just have to wait and see how this all plays out. Play some tiddlywinks or something while we wait for news. sorry, but there is no projection my friend..........this is reality, mediocrity in this program under JP did not just happen over night.................and let's stop deflecting that lack of recruiting onto the fanbase, if kids are basing their decision on what fans are thinking, they would never select any school or team, as you say, this isn't just happening at Siena in a vacuum...........go check out boards of really good teams, Jay Wright should be fired if he doesn't cut down the nets on Monday night according to the Nova board or how about Coach K on the hot seat for not getting to the final 4, LOL....................any negativity isn't created out of thin air, it already existed at Siena under JP, just tough to ignore it or sweep it under the rug........but then again, JP hasn't done much damage control either over the yrs, so that's another sore spot............ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 11:14:09 GMT -5
Projecting your fears on the board based on past disappointments won't help the recruiting situation so why do it? We're all in 'wait and see' mode. Throwing out negativity may be cathartic to you, but it doesn't really help anything. We just have to wait and see how this all plays out. Play some tiddlywinks or something while we wait for news. sorry, but there is no projection my friend..........this is reality, mediocrity in this program under JP did not just happen over night.................and let's stop deflecting that lack of recruiting onto the fanbase, if kids are basing their decision on what fans are thinking, they would never select any school or team, as you say, this isn't just happening at Siena in a vacuum...........go check out boards of really good teams, Jay Wright should be fired if he doesn't cut down the nets on Monday night according to the Nova board or how about Coach K on the hot seat for not getting to the final 4, LOL....................any negativity isn't created out of thin air, it already existed at Siena under JP, just tough to ignore it or sweep it under the rug........but then again, JP hasn't done much damage control either over the yrs, so that's another sore spot............ That was a really quick game of tiddlywinks. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 11:26:52 GMT -5
I find this "looking in the window of a pet shop for just the right new puppy" activity you recruiting geeks are efforting to be both comical and sobering at the same time. Let's say he lands 2 or 3 of his so-called "targets" - great, welcome to Siena, go get a practice uni and I'll see you in September...almost all recruits evolve from "prime target" to "landed a good kid" to "kid is a project" to "maybe he can get a few minutes until he screws up" and then back to practice eval ... not seeing a major win change just with addition by subtraction...
Here's the question/dilemma - what makes any of you think So-so's coaching style/abilities will change from his "happy to be at or near 0.500" habits...do you think he has the X's and O'x smarts to revamp the vaunted Siena offense? I don't recall one game this past season where anyone made any "nice adjustment" coach comments and certainly there were no accolades presented for his scouting/game plan "efforts" - it was, pure and simple - same old, same old So-so, let's watch 'em practice and decide our next starting lineup...
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??..............the premise is, what is he doing with the current roster of players, that isn't something that you wait until August..................really?