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Post by MikeC on Mar 11, 2018 15:25:38 GMT -5
Rewind about 10 years.
Siena and Davidson
Discuss.
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Post by gorvy on Mar 11, 2018 15:35:12 GMT -5
It comes down to coaching and decision making surrounding the coaching. We had everything in place to be just as successful. Somehow we ignored past performances, twice, and doubled down in the case of patsos. All it takes is a few bad decisions.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 11, 2018 15:47:43 GMT -5
It comes down to coaching and decision making surrounding the coaching. We had everything in place to be just as successful. Somehow we ignored past performances, twice, and doubled down in the case of patsos. All it takes is a few bad decisions. Without going back and checking exact RPIs ... Top 50 program to a bottom 50. What else can you say! We didn’t capitalize on our success like a Davidson. Poor management / administrative decisions. Water under the bridge, time to correct and move on and see if we can recapture some of the spark. Until then Fran’s run was just a flash in the pan. |
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Post by MTS on Mar 11, 2018 15:48:50 GMT -5
It comes down to coaching and decision making surrounding the coaching. We had everything in place to be just as successful. Somehow we ignored past performances, twice, and doubled down in the case of patsos. All it takes is a few bad decisions. Everything except a good administration which is everything. Siena, not Davidson, would be in the A10 if not for the morons who run Siena. #facts |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:49:17 GMT -5
Arrogant complacency in a nutshell...in case D'Arg hasn't noted, they still spelled Siena with two "n's" when Fran was here - Tennessee State is the one I recall - big lit sign advertising the game "Home vs Sienna"
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Post by Papi on Mar 11, 2018 15:49:45 GMT -5
More like lightning in a bottle. It will happen again, trust me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:51:01 GMT -5
More like lightning in a bottle. It will happen again, trust me. Seriously hope you are holding it when it happens - you need a jolt of reality... |
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Post by Papi on Mar 11, 2018 15:57:16 GMT -5
More like lightning in a bottle. It will happen again, trust me. Seriously hope you are holding it when it happens - you need a jolt of reality... I hope you're around to see it and remember it. |
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Post by gorvy on Mar 11, 2018 15:57:26 GMT -5
More like lightning in a bottle. It will happen again, trust me. Not without changes. |
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Post by bison137 on Mar 11, 2018 16:02:36 GMT -5
Main difference is that McKillop has stayed for 29 seasons at Davidson. Turned down many other opportunities. If Fran was still at Siena, do you think they might be a bit better?
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Post by gorvy on Mar 11, 2018 16:11:42 GMT -5
Main difference is that McKillop has stayed for 29 seasons at Davidson. Turned down many other opportunities. If Fran was still at Siena, do you think they might be a bit better? Yup. And mckillops salary is not outrageous at $500k. Siena needed to get a similar caliber coach, not retreads. |
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 11, 2018 16:13:06 GMT -5
Main difference is that McKillop has stayed for 29 seasons at Davidson. Turned down many other opportunities. If Fran was still at Siena, do you think they might be a bit better? Other small mids (3-5k students) say a Butler or Xavier survive coaching changes. McKillop is an extremely important factor (I’m not dismissing it in anyway) but not the only one. Successful programs have a winning “culture” and what they do is repeatable. |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 11, 2018 21:19:29 GMT -5
Rewind about 10 years. Siena and Davidson Discuss. Its simple. No one ever wanted McKillop so he stayed there for 29 years (HUMILIATING he only makes $400K after 29 years at that school, and its in the A-10) A BCS school wanted Fran and it forced us to try and repeat something that is rare, and duplicate it for a generally unrealistic fanbase. |
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Post by MTS on Mar 11, 2018 21:22:34 GMT -5
Rewind about 10 years. Siena and Davidson Discuss. Its simple. No one ever wanted McKillop so he stayed there for 29 years (HUMILIATING he only makes $400K after 29 years at that school, and its in the A-10) A BCS school wanted Fran and it forced us to try and repeat something that is rare, and duplicate it for a generally unrealistic fanbase. Yeah very unrealistic to expect better than a .426 win percentage and zero NCAA/NIT bids in the last 8 years. |
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Post by saints22 on Mar 11, 2018 21:28:12 GMT -5
Without going back and checking exact RPIs ... Top 50 program to a bottom 50. What else can you say! We didn’t capitalize on our success like a Davidson. Poor management / administrative decisions. Water under the bridge, time to correct and move on and see if we can recapture some of the spark. Until then Fran’s run was just a flash in the pan. Is it really a “flash in the pan” when it happens three years in a row? And when they were within thirty seconds of making it four in a row? |
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