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Mar 2, 2018 21:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 2, 2018 21:28:58 GMT -5
Patsos verbally abused Brett every chance he got. Brett wasn't going anywhere his girlfriend (now wife) was here. Both Brett and Ryan Oliver found their way to become peices that were too valuable to run off. Always an excuse to never give an ounce of credit. No surprise đđ
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Post by greenblood on Mar 2, 2018 21:54:54 GMT -5
Oh no, I give him all the credit for dragging a once decent mid major program into the pits.
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Mar 3, 2018 1:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 3, 2018 1:18:48 GMT -5
Oh no, I give him all the credit for dragging a once decent mid major program into the pits. That wasnt the topic. It was giving him credit for making Bisping a better player. But since you changed the topic, I ll chalk that up to a, "no I refuse to ever say anything good, only bad," disposition.
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Post by sky on Mar 3, 2018 1:46:38 GMT -5
If JP made Bret better just think what a good coach could have done....
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Mar 3, 2018 6:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by greenblood on Mar 3, 2018 6:14:11 GMT -5
Oh no, I give him all the credit for dragging a once decent mid major program into the pits. That wasnt the topic. It was giving him credit for making Bisping a better player. But since you changed the topic, I ll chalk that up to a, "no I refuse to ever say anything good, only bad," disposition. You brought up Brett not me. I once again am stating what really went on. And even if you want to credit JP for development by making him his whipping boy did he know how to get him a trip ti the dance or NIT? Nope because he was too busy building around Nico and getting in his head when he realized he couldn't manage his personality into the talent on the floor that might have saved his ass.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 6:23:45 GMT -5
Oh no, I give him all the credit for dragging a once decent mid major program into the pits. That wasnt the topic. It was giving him credit for making Bisping a better player. But since you changed the topic, I ll chalk that up to a, "no I refuse to ever say anything good, only bad," disposition. Ok, let's spot you one - So-so made Brett better (I believe PT was the key but why quibble). Then you must believe that So-so is totally responsible for the lack of development in all those players who did not improve, and in many cases regressed, under his "coaching style"! On that point, we can all agree. Have a great day.....
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Post by Tony on Mar 3, 2018 6:28:46 GMT -5
Oh no, I give him all the credit for dragging a once decent mid major program into the pits. That wasnt the topic. It was giving him credit for making Bisping a better player. But since you changed the topic, I ll chalk that up to a, "no I refuse to ever say anything good, only bad," disposition. HJâluv your posts man, but you have to let it go. Sure Jimbo may have done a few good things, but they are far outnumbered by his losing 4 out of 5 regular seasons, in critical summer recruiting he has taken taking 15/20 âvacationsâ , and thatâs not counting taking most of July/August off for Saratoga and Rhode island/ cape cod. His assistants are more interested in being his drinking buddies and his lead assistant would rather chase women in Albany than go out on recruiting trail â all this while collecting 2 million from Siena- nice gig from Jimmyâs POV â not so good from Siena and Sienaâs fan POV- do you really expect Siena fans to say anything good about him. He really needs to go
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Mar 3, 2018 6:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 6:58:47 GMT -5
Why would HJ let it go? JP and staff have probably funneled a quarter of that $2 million in the past five years drinking at his bars. He neeeeds them to stay.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 3, 2018 13:38:47 GMT -5
I've been on record here to say I think it's time to end it with Jimmy. For me, this is almost entirely based on recruiting and roster management failures and poor on court performance of his teams.
This does not mean that he hasn't done anything positive for the program. It would appear that he has done a good job dealing with corporate sponsors and the media certainly have a goldmine of soundbites. For the kids that are able to endure his style of abuse, he makes an effort to enlighten them about things outside of basketball. That is a positive, IMHO.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I actually like his public persona. He's an interesting guy, IMO, sometimes very insightful while at other times being mind-numbingly tone deaf. He's like a box of chocolates. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy hanging out with him and talking about tons of different things.
In the end, I hope Siena has the foresight to see we're on an endless stretch of bad road and we need to get off.
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Mar 3, 2018 14:56:26 GMT -5
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Post by heftylefty on Mar 3, 2018 14:56:26 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the buyout on his contract actually is?
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Post by indian82 on Mar 3, 2018 15:17:09 GMT -5
Why would HJ let it go? JP and staff have probably funneled a quarter of that $2 million in the past five years drinking at his bars. He neeeeds them to stay. That's not really fair. I don't know if JP and staff frequents his establishment, but debate the topic at hand. HJ has already stated that he believes it is time for JP t go, if I am not mistaken. To this topic, I recall stating that we saw Brett start to blossom as a sophomore and that was compared t his performance as a frosh under Mitch. So whether that development was coming or not, gave JP credit for that. But I didn't believe we saw a whole lot of development after. Javion, Marquis & Lavon did well, but a a group they underperformed as a group, which is what you really want to see.
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Post by gorvy on Mar 3, 2018 15:43:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the buyout on his contract actually is? nope, not that has been stated on here. It has been publicly stated by Siena that his contract runs through 20-21 (three more years). Based on past publicly available information Siena has been on the hook for the entire length of the head menâs basketball coachâs contracts in the event of a fire without cause. However there is limited information that suggests the final year of jimmys current contract is not guaranteed. Siena has never bought out more than one year, so a move this year is unprecedented regardless, although I wouldnât rule it out just yet.
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Post by gorvy on Mar 3, 2018 15:45:09 GMT -5
Why would HJ let it go? JP and staff have probably funneled a quarter of that $2 million in the past five years drinking at his bars. He neeeeds them to stay. That's not really fair. I don't know if JP and staff frequents his establishment, but debate the topic at hand. HJ has already stated that he believes it is time for JP t go, if I am not mistaken. To this topic, I recall stating that we saw Brett start to blossom as a sophomore and that was compared t his performance as a frosh under Mitch. So whether that development was coming or not, gave JP credit for that. But I didn't believe we saw a whole lot of development after. Javion, Marquis & Lavon did well, but a a group they underperformed as a group, which is what you really want to see. letâs not forget, jp tried using marquis wright off the ball. Thank god he didnât have a chance to ruin Ronald Mooreâs career.
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Mar 3, 2018 16:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 3, 2018 16:16:49 GMT -5
That's not really fair. I don't know if JP and staff frequents his establishment, but debate the topic at hand. HJ has already stated that he believes it is time for JP t go, if I am not mistaken. To this topic, I recall stating that we saw Brett start to blossom as a sophomore and that was compared t his performance as a frosh under Mitch. So whether that development was coming or not, gave JP credit for that. But I didn't believe we saw a whole lot of development after. Javion, Marquis & Lavon did well, but a a group they underperformed as a group, which is what you really want to see. letâs not forget, jp tried using marquis wright off the ball. Thank god he didnât have a chance to ruin Ronald Mooreâs career. Let me start with the fact that Iâm not defending JP, but wasnât that move because Wright wanted to score more? I hate to say it but it seems like JP has a propensity of getting kids that are a little difficult to handle. I loved Wright, thought he was a great PG, and a great player on a good team, that fell short on expectations.
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Post by indian82 on Mar 3, 2018 16:27:41 GMT -5
letâs not forget, jp tried using marquis wright off the ball. Thank god he didnât have a chance to ruin Ronald Mooreâs career. Let me start with the fact that Iâm not defending JP, but wasnât that move because Wright wanted to score more? I hate to say it but it seems like JP has a propensity of getting kids that are a little difficult to handle. I loved Wright, thought he was a great PG, and a great player on a good team, that fell short on expectations. When you don't have consistent discipline, that's what happens. Who CARES if Wright wanted to score more? If that's true, then too bad. I'm the coach and I say you are my Point Guard. This isn't a democracy. That way, it IS easier to blame the kids. Have some backbone. At $400K, he could buy some.
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