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Post by rickyp on Feb 3, 2018 18:20:53 GMT -5
What agenda of trying to make a team look like sh$##.The agenda of my friends calling and cussing me out because of the flex offense JP owes me $260 for last night's game.So yeah he does have a agenda and I'm paying dearly for it.
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Post by glen on Feb 4, 2018 8:01:54 GMT -5
That's a bummer for the kid. I hope he can get back into form for next season. Unfortunately Jimmy will just use this as an excuse for the next bunch of losses. It may be legit (as an excuse) but I'm not sure it changes the outcome of the season any. With Penn we probably win the game...though Smithen did pick up the slack. He probably doesn't go off for 18 with Penn in the game.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 4, 2018 9:47:29 GMT -5
actually with Penn and the lack of adjustments by Patsos, I would argue that Manhattan would have been more prepared. Instead they were forced to adjust to a different Siena team with their starting PG out. If anything, it could be argued that it helped Siena. The next three are road games. Wont be pretty... with or without Penn.
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Post by rickyp on Feb 4, 2018 10:38:31 GMT -5
Going forward who starts at the PG.While i would think it's going to be Smithen and should who knows.He's better suited for the role right known.IMO but that's up to the coach who he feels is suited for that.But it'll probably be PG by committee but you really need Horn and Richard back healthy.You need the scoring.Maybe JP gets rid of the flex #2play because of this.Yeah
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Post by playerparentcoach on Feb 6, 2018 14:19:57 GMT -5
So Richard is the next man up at the point. Hopefully Patsos let's Richard play thru mistakes like he allowed Penn to do. Richard ran the show just fine. Him and Smithen on the court together gives the Saints good ball handling and allows Shivers to attack from the 3 spot. TH got mins at the 3 as well and produced. So this injury gives Penn the rest he needs after the overuse. And it gives several guys opportunities they would not have had with Penn in the game for 40 mins every game
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Post by greenblood on Feb 6, 2018 15:36:09 GMT -5
That will be true by default but I still don't think they win three more games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:46:01 GMT -5
So Richard is the next man up at the point. Hopefully Patsos let's Richard play thru mistakes like he allowed Penn to do. Richard ran the show just fine. Him and Smithen on the court together gives the Saints good ball handling and allows Shivers to attack from the 3 spot. TH got mins at the 3 as well and produced. So this injury gives Penn the rest he needs after the overuse. And it gives several guys opportunities they would not have had with Penn in the game for 40 mins every game What does it matter if Richard gets time at the point? You’ve been saying he’s leaving for two months now. Is he going to change his mind, Oops I mean your mind?
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Post by siena95 on Feb 7, 2018 10:35:28 GMT -5
So Richard is the next man up at the point. Hopefully Patsos let's Richard play thru mistakes like he allowed Penn to do. Richard ran the show just fine. Him and Smithen on the court together gives the Saints good ball handling and allows Shivers to attack from the 3 spot. TH got mins at the 3 as well and produced. So this injury gives Penn the rest he needs after the overuse. And it gives several guys opportunities they would not have had with Penn in the game for 40 mins every game you keep saying overuse on Penn, he averaged 32 min a game.... last year Siena had 4 players average 32+ per game, were they all overused? Or would we have seen a different side of this argument if LL was only playing 25 minutes?
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Post by goldsaint17 on Feb 7, 2018 10:42:29 GMT -5
Roman Penn is officially out for the season. Don’t think we win a game the rest of the way.
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Post by Papi on Feb 7, 2018 11:05:49 GMT -5
Roman Penn is officially out for the season. Don’t think we win a game the rest of the way. This is the final excuse to just wash this season, JP gets one more chance next year. With Darg running Nico off and this injury no way does he get fired.
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Post by hoopdad on Feb 7, 2018 11:25:26 GMT -5
Roman Penn is officially out for the season. Don’t think we win a game the rest of the way. This is the final excuse to just wash this season, JP gets one more chance next year. With Darg running Nico off and this injury no way does he get fired. I think Siena is in a tough spot with JP. If they do not fire him this year and let him coach next year, what happens if (I know it is a BIG if) he has a good season next year? Do you fire him then? Can you fire him following a good season? Do you extend him? I can't imagine that. Only reasonable outcome that I see is dismissing him at the end of the season. Start fresh and move on. The Patsos Experiment is a failure. Why continue?
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Post by $cott on Feb 7, 2018 11:32:54 GMT -5
This is the final excuse to just wash this season, JP gets one more chance next year. With Darg running Nico off and this injury no way does he get fired. I think Siena is in a tough spot with JP. If they do not fire him this year and let him coach next year, what happens if (I know it is a BIG if) he has a good season next year? Do you fire him then? Can you fire him following a good season? Do you extend him? I can't imagine that. Only reasonable outcome that I see is dismissing him at the end of the season. Start fresh and move on. The Patsos Experiment is a failure. Why continue? Unfortunately I actually think that is the administration's dream scenario. Use injuries as an excuse for this season, get picked to finish 9th or 10th next season, overachieve and wind up in 5th, and then use that as an excuse to give him one more year and avoid having to eat any dead money.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 11:35:38 GMT -5
I think Siena is in a tough spot with JP. If they do not fire him this year and let him coach next year, what happens if (I know it is a BIG if) he has a good season next year? Do you fire him then? Can you fire him following a good season? Do you extend him? I can't imagine that. Only reasonable outcome that I see is dismissing him at the end of the season. Start fresh and move on. The Patsos Experiment is a failure. Why continue? Unfortunately I actually think that is the administration's dream scenario. Use injuries as an excuse for this season, get picked to finish 9th or 10th next season, overachieve and wind up in 5th, and then use that as an excuse to give him one more year and avoid having to eat any dead money. Yeah, I think think these days, $$$ rules in a small northeastern liberal arts college. They're already worried about declining demographics.
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Post by hoopdad on Feb 7, 2018 11:35:55 GMT -5
I think Siena is in a tough spot with JP. If they do not fire him this year and let him coach next year, what happens if (I know it is a BIG if) he has a good season next year? Do you fire him then? Can you fire him following a good season? Do you extend him? I can't imagine that. Only reasonable outcome that I see is dismissing him at the end of the season. Start fresh and move on. The Patsos Experiment is a failure. Why continue? Unfortunately I actually think that is the administration's dream scenario. Use injuries as an excuse for this season, get picked to finish 9th or 10th next season, overachieve and wind up in 5th, and then use that as an excuse to give him one more year and avoid having to eat any dead money. When is he under contract til?
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Post by greenblood on Feb 7, 2018 11:43:41 GMT -5
Far too long. I am thinking 2020-2021 because of the buyout number. By that time the TUC will decide not to renew and the team will be playing back at the ARC.
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