Where will Nico transfer to?

[gorvy]

I hope whoever wins the $5k puts the money to good use such as the Jimmy P buyout fund.

[billmurray]

Jan 19, 2018 21:12:43 GMT -5 gorvy said:

I hope whoever wins the $5k puts the money to good use such as the Jimmy P buyout fund.

5K wouldn't cover a third of his moving expenses. LOL

[gorvy]

Jan 20, 2018 20:49:17 GMT -5 billmurray said:

Jan 19, 2018 21:12:43 GMT -5 gorvy said:

I hope whoever wins the $5k puts the money to good use such as the Jimmy P buyout fund.

5K wouldn't cover a third of his moving expenses. LOL

. Maybe bigpapi will put up his 100k chip.

[billmurray]

Jan 20, 2018 20:53:00 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Jan 20, 2018 20:49:17 GMT -5 billmurray said:

5K wouldn't cover a third of his moving expenses. LOL

. Maybe bigpapi will put up his 100k chip.

He and 7-8 other guys might make it go.

[bison137]

Jan 18, 2018 22:06:19 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

Not according to the NCAA offices in Indianapolis, where I paced a call this afternoon.

I am still willing to bet $5000 and I don't believe for a second that the NCAA office told you that.    You are completely wrong.   Playing any part of a season per NCAA rules counts as a whole year (except in the case of an injury waiver, often incorrectly called a redshirt).    I can reference a dozen players who transferred out at midyear.   In EVERY case, that counted as an entire year.  No player has managed to play two 1/2 years for two different schools and count it as only one season of play.

Once again I ask how the wager will be determined.    I feel like someone betting the sun rises in the east against someone who insists it rises in the west.   I can produce plenty of evidence but if the other side refuses to accept any of it, then nothing is settled.   

[knicksaint]

So now you are calling me a liar? Lots of class for a presumed PL school grad.

If what I have stated is not correct, perhaps you can explain why Isaac Copeland (Georgetown to Nebraska) and Antravious Simmons (VCU to FGCU), among several others, were able to transfer mid-year and be eligible to play after first semester of the following season. In both cases, an appeal made them eligible after only one semester in residence at their second school, but both would have been eligible after two semesters there had there been no appeal.

By the way, I don’t want your money. Use it for any medical expenses not covered by health insurance that you have incurred as a result of breaking your wrist trying to pat yourself on the back.

[bison137]

Jan 28, 2018 22:16:49 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

So now you are calling me a liar? Lots of class for a presumed PL school grad.

If what I have stated is not correct, perhaps you can explain why Isaac Copeland (Georgetown to Nebraska) and Antravious Simmons (VCU to FGCU), among several others, were able to transfer mid-year and be eligible to play after first semester of the following season. In both cases, an appeal made them eligible after only one semester in residence at their second school, but both would have been eligible after two semesters there had there been no appeal.

By the way, I don’t want your money. Use it for any medical expenses not covered by health insurance that you have incurred as a result of breaking your wrist trying to pat yourself on the back.

I will be happy to explain why you are wrong.   Players who transfer out after first semester are always allowed to play after the first semester of their next year.   That has been true for many decades.   However the half year played at the original school counts as a full season and the half season played the next year at the new school counts as a full season.   That is very clear in the NCAA rules.   That is why Nico's career would have been limited to one more semester had he chosen to transfer at midyear this year.

Isaac Copeland btw is a totally different situation than Nico.  He transferred at midyear and sat out most of the season with a serious injury that required surgery.   He was granted an injury "redshirt" by the NCAA and the NCAA allowed him to play without sitting out the first semester because he had missed most of the previous season.    For Nico to have more than a semester left, he would have to have had a season-ending injury this year AND not played in more than 30% of the games.   Both don't apply of course.

I am still perfectly willing to make a  $5000 wager on what I said.   Just need to draw up an appropriate contract with that sort of money at stake.

[hoopjunkie]

Oklahoma St appears to be the leader for his services.

[rickyp]

Totally Great

[greenblood]

didn't they have an assistant arrested this season in the FBI probe?

[rickyp]

Yeah

[knicksaint]

Feb 12, 2018 13:30:17 GMT -5 bison137 said:

Jan 28, 2018 22:16:49 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

So now you are calling me a liar? Lots of class for a presumed PL school grad.

If what I have stated is not correct, perhaps you can explain why Isaac Copeland (Georgetown to Nebraska) and Antravious Simmons (VCU to FGCU), among several others, were able to transfer mid-year and be eligible to play after first semester of the following season. In both cases, an appeal made them eligible after only one semester in residence at their second school, but both would have been eligible after two semesters there had there been no appeal.

By the way, I don’t want your money. Use it for any medical expenses not covered by health insurance that you have incurred as a result of breaking your wrist trying to pat yourself on the back.

I will be happy to explain why you are wrong.   Players who transfer out after first semester are always allowed to play after the first semester of their next year.   That has been true for many decades.   However the half year played at the original school counts as a full season and the half season played the next year at the new school counts as a full season.   That is very clear in the NCAA rules.   That is why Nico's career would have been limited to one more semester had he chosen to transfer at midyear this year.

Isaac Copeland btw is a totally different situation than Nico.  He transferred at midyear and sat out most of the season with a serious injury that required surgery.   He was granted an injury "redshirt" by the NCAA and the NCAA allowed him to play without sitting out the first semester because he had missed most of the previous season.    For Nico to have more than a semester left, he would have to have had a season-ending injury this year AND not played in more than 30% of the games.   Both don't apply of course.

I am still perfectly willing to make a  $5000 wager on what I said.   Just need to draw up an appropriate contract with that sort of money at stake.

In light of your insistence, I called the NCAA again this afternoon. This time, I was told that the rule was changed earlier this decade so Ihat the typical mid-year transfer was no longer able to count the one semester at one school and the first semester of play at the second school after sitting out two semesters as totaling only one year of eligibility.

Of course, if a second school would have been willing to pay the freight, he could have transferred at semester break and sat out all of next year and then played in 2019-20. It's highly unlikely any school would cover five semesters to get play in two of the semesters, which makes me wonder just how bad things were between Nico and Patsos and/or Nico and the school to have him stay but not play.

[hoopjunkie]

Who knows what happens if there is a coaching change? It's possible he'd be in the green and gold again....but I highly doubt it

[skipc]

Feb 12, 2018 23:35:11 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

Feb 12, 2018 13:30:17 GMT -5 bison137 said:

I will be happy to explain why you are wrong.   Players who transfer out after first semester are always allowed to play after the first semester of their next year.   That has been true for many decades.   However the half year played at the original school counts as a full season and the half season played the next year at the new school counts as a full season.   That is very clear in the NCAA rules.   That is why Nico's career would have been limited to one more semester had he chosen to transfer at midyear this year.

Isaac Copeland btw is a totally different situation than Nico.  He transferred at midyear and sat out most of the season with a serious injury that required surgery.   He was granted an injury "redshirt" by the NCAA and the NCAA allowed him to play without sitting out the first semester because he had missed most of the previous season.    For Nico to have more than a semester left, he would have to have had a season-ending injury this year AND not played in more than 30% of the games.   Both don't apply of course.

I am still perfectly willing to make a  $5000 wager on what I said.   Just need to draw up an appropriate contract with that sort of money at stake.

In light of your insistence, I called the NCAA again this afternoon. This time, I was told that the rule was changed earlier this decade so Ihat the typical mid-year transfer was no longer able to count the one semester at one school and the first semester of play at the second school after sitting out two semesters as totaling only one year of eligibility.

Of course, if a second school would have been willing to pay the freight, he could have transferred at semester break and sat out all of next year and then played in 2019-20. It's highly unlikely any school would cover five semesters to get play in two of the semesters, which makes me wonder just how bad things were between Nico and Patsos and/or Nico and the school to have him stay but not play.

So are telling us that bison137 was correct? If so, it would appear an apology is in order.