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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Jan 17, 2018 16:21:26 GMT -5
Did not think of hat option of Nico coming back if Rex is fired.
Would love to see this scenario, and it would be in Nico's and in all probability would be in Nico's best interests to do to be honest with you.
As long as all the team is good with it this could be a win-win for all involved.
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Post by Quackman on Jan 17, 2018 16:30:06 GMT -5
My prediction is that he puts his name in for the NBA draft and then goes overseas.
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Post by knicksaint on Jan 17, 2018 16:49:42 GMT -5
If Nico could have found a program that was a good fit and had a scholarship open right now, it would have cost the new school two and a half years to get him for probably 20 games next season and all of the following year. Clearly, that would be more attractive than the one for two that will apply if he transfers after the school year.
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Post by $cott on Jan 17, 2018 16:52:15 GMT -5
If Nico could have found a program that was a good fit and had a scholarship open right now, it would have cost the new school two and a half years to get him for probably 20 games next season and all of the following year. Clearly, that would be more attractive than the one for two that will apply if he transfers after the school year. Yeah, this was the route I expected him to take. The fact that he is staying at Siena through the semester does open the possibility of a new Siena coach re-recruiting him.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 17, 2018 17:42:55 GMT -5
I cant see that, because the higher ups wanted him out more than JP did. Cant see how that changes, or his game, with a new coach.
ps--I would have loved to see him playing with the Patroons the rest of the season.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 17, 2018 18:50:47 GMT -5
If Nico could have found a program that was a good fit and had a scholarship open right now, it would have cost the new school two and a half years to get him for probably 20 games next season and all of the following year. Clearly, that would be more attractive than the one for two that will apply if he transfers after the school year. No. He has one year of eligibility left. He could either play 20 games next year OR all of the 2019-20 season. Not both.
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Post by knicksaint on Jan 17, 2018 20:40:30 GMT -5
No. He has five years to play four. He has played 2.5 in 2.5. If he left before second semester, he would sit out through first semester next academic year, at which point he would have played 2.5 years in 3.5 years, leaving him 1.5 years to play the remaining 1.5 years of eligibility.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 17, 2018 22:29:55 GMT -5
No. He has five years to play four. He has played 2.5 in 2.5. If he left before second semester, he would sit out through first semester next academic year, at which point he would have played 2.5 years in 3.5 years, leaving him 1.5 years to play the remaining 1.5 years of eligibility. You couldn't be more wrong. A player can play four years over a five-year span. But any part of a year - unless it is lost early to a season-ending injury - counts as a full year. 2.5 years = 3 years. He has one year left. NOT 1.5 years. If you'd like, I'd be happy to arrange a very large wager.
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Post by Tony on Jan 18, 2018 5:44:02 GMT -5
No. He has five years to play four. He has played 2.5 in 2.5. If he left before second semester, he would sit out through first semester next academic year, at which point he would have played 2.5 years in 3.5 years, leaving him 1.5 years to play the remaining 1.5 years of eligibility. You couldn't be more wrong. A player can play four years over a five-year span. But any part of a year - unless it is lost early to a season-ending injury - counts as a full year. 2.5 years = 3 years. He has one year left. NOT 1.5 years. If you'd like, I'd be happy to arrange a very large wager. Bison are you are confusing some PL rule with NCAA rule. My understanding is KnickSaint is correct. A player transferring must spend 1 year in residence at his new school. Thus if Nico transferred before start of second semester he would be eligible at his new school at end of 1st semester next season. The fact he didn't transfer only leaves option of sitting out entire 2018/19 season and playing 1 year in 2019/2020 season - new school would use 2 years of scholarship to get 1 year out of nico( has there been a rule change recently?)
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Post by rickyp on Jan 18, 2018 10:45:16 GMT -5
Umm that's interesting 2for1 that's cool.Like Nico is a winner on that one graduate that one year and head to masters program or double major cool.I would be looking for a strong academic program also degree degree for free my motto.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 18, 2018 14:02:13 GMT -5
You couldn't be more wrong. A player can play four years over a five-year span. But any part of a year - unless it is lost early to a season-ending injury - counts as a full year. 2.5 years = 3 years. He has one year left. NOT 1.5 years. If you'd like, I'd be happy to arrange a very large wager. Bison are you are confusing some PL rule with NCAA rule. My understanding is KnickSaint is correct. A player transferring must spend 1 year in residence at his new school. Thus if Nico transferred before start of second semester he would be eligible at his new school at end of 1st semester next season. The fact he didn't transfer only leaves option of sitting out entire 2018/19 season and playing 1 year in 2019/2020 season - new school would use 2 years of scholarship to get 1 year out of nico( has there been a rule change recently?) I know the NCAA rules VERY well. If he had transferred at the start of January and then spent a year in residency, he would have been able to play starting the end of first semester (i.e. December 2018) until the end of the year (i.e. March 2019). That would have ended his eligibility. He could NOT have then played another year, as KnickSaint incorrectly states. His other option, as you say, is to play an entire year in 2019-20. That has been the rule for at least the past 20 years, likely longer. A player is allowed to play four seasons. A partial season counts as a full season. And players can ONLY play for one school in a year. I am still prepared to place a very large wager on this.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 18, 2018 14:07:32 GMT -5
Bison are you are confusing some PL rule with NCAA rule. My understanding is KnickSaint is correct. A player transferring must spend 1 year in residence at his new school. Thus if Nico transferred before start of second semester he would be eligible at his new school at end of 1st semester next season. The fact he didn't transfer only leaves option of sitting out entire 2018/19 season and playing 1 year in 2019/2020 season - new school would use 2 years of scholarship to get 1 year out of nico( has there been a rule change recently?) I know the NCAA rules VERY well. If he had transferred at the start of January and then spent a year in residency, he would have been able to play starting the end of first semester (i.e. December 2018) until the end of the year (i.e. March 2019). That would have ended his eligibility. He could NOT have then played another year, as KnickSaint incorrectly states. His other option, as you say, is to play an entire year in 2019-20. That has been the rule for at least the past 20 years, likely longer. A player is allowed to play four seasons. A partial season counts as a full season. And players can ONLY play for one school in a year. I am still prepared to place a very large wager on this. To my knowledge this is how it works as well. Good post Bison137.
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Post by knicksaint on Jan 18, 2018 14:15:00 GMT -5
Bison are you are confusing some PL rule with NCAA rule. My understanding is KnickSaint is correct. A player transferring must spend 1 year in residence at his new school. Thus if Nico transferred before start of second semester he would be eligible at his new school at end of 1st semester next season. The fact he didn't transfer only leaves option of sitting out entire 2018/19 season and playing 1 year in 2019/2020 season - new school would use 2 years of scholarship to get 1 year out of nico( has there been a rule change recently?) I know the NCAA rules VERY well. If he had transferred at the start of January and then spent a year in residency, he would have been able to play starting the end of first semester (i.e. December 2018) until the end of the year (i.e. March 2019). That would have ended his eligibility. He could NOT have then played another year, as KnickSaint incorrectly states. His other option, as you say, is to play an entire year in 2019-20. That has been the rule for at least the past 20 years, likely longer. A player is allowed to play four seasons. A partial season counts as a full season. And players can ONLY play for one school in a year. I am still prepared to place a very large wager on this. r Name the amount and send Tony the money. He will hold it until it's time to pay me. Second semester in residence at School A and first semester of the following academic year in residence at School A constitutes a year in residence. Therefore, if Nico transferred from Siena to School A prior to the start of second semester in 2017-18, he would be eligible to pay for School A at the conclusion of the first semester in 2018-19. At that point he would be 3 1/2 years through his 5 year eligibility period and he could play not only second semester in 2018-19, but also all of 2019-20, giving him four years of playing during the five year period. Tony, let me know when you have his money.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 18, 2018 16:07:08 GMT -5
I know the NCAA rules VERY well. If he had transferred at the start of January and then spent a year in residency, he would have been able to play starting the end of first semester (i.e. December 2018) until the end of the year (i.e. March 2019). That would have ended his eligibility. He could NOT have then played another year, as KnickSaint incorrectly states. His other option, as you say, is to play an entire year in 2019-20. That has been the rule for at least the past 20 years, likely longer. A player is allowed to play four seasons. A partial season counts as a full season. And players can ONLY play for one school in a year. I am still prepared to place a very large wager on this. r Name the amount and send Tony the money. He will hold it until it's time to pay me. Second semester in residence at School A and first semester of the following academic year in residence at School A constitutes a year in residence. Therefore, if Nico transferred from Siena to School A prior to the start of second semester in 2017-18, he would be eligible to pay for School A at the conclusion of the first semester in 2018-19. At that point he would be 3 1/2 years through his 5 year eligibility period and he could play not only second semester in 2018-19, but also all of 2019-20, giving him four years of playing during the five year period. Tony, let me know when you have his money. I suggest $5000, although I would certainly be willing to go higher. Need to work out the logistics however. What evidence will be required to establish that you are incorrect?
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Post by siena95 on Jan 18, 2018 16:42:09 GMT -5
from NCAA Guidlines:
Season of competition: Generally, NCAA rules say that any competition in a season — regardless of the amount of time — counts as having played a season in that sport. If you play any time during a season, regardless of how long you played, it counts as having played for an entire season in that sport. Your season of competition starts when you spend one second in competition on the field, court, gym or track
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