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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 11, 2017 0:15:35 GMT -5
Kadeem played his way into the rotation. He accepted the challenge and delivered up in Canada. We can use his defense and leadership.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 11, 2017 12:05:39 GMT -5
7 will play and Shivers is one of them. The point guard decision was made before the trip to Canada and so was the depth chart for the bigs. Richard played mins when Nico was out. No surprise there. But Richard won't play much if only at the 2g. Penn played major mins in all 3 games there. Smithen had an opportunity to earn mins. Friday did not get an opportunity to earn anything. These are not tweets about what will happen. It actually want down that way Friday had plenty of opportunities to earn minutes. Patsos was so high on him last fall/winter, and he was on the fast track to the starting center job going into the offseason. Unfortunately he came into summer camp out of shape and then didn't come along in the 1.5 months before the trip. Fisher did what he needed to do this offseason and earned a role, Sammy did not. He did not earn the chance to play minutes on this trip. Hopefully he turns it around and really commits to getting in shape. That makes no sense to me. The scrimmages were part of preseason and he did not get a chance. Saying he is out of shape is an excuse. The Freshman was given the spot. Friday was recruited over just like Richard.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 11, 2017 12:07:18 GMT -5
Kadeem played his way into the rotation. He accepted the challenge and delivered up in Canada. We can use his defense and leadership. He was given a chance to earn time at the position he was brought in to play. Cant say that for all of the players
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 11, 2017 12:28:02 GMT -5
Friday had plenty of opportunities to earn minutes. Patsos was so high on him last fall/winter, and he was on the fast track to the starting center job going into the offseason. Unfortunately he came into summer camp out of shape and then didn't come along in the 1.5 months before the trip. Fisher did what he needed to do this offseason and earned a role, Sammy did not. He did not earn the chance to play minutes on this trip. Hopefully he turns it around and really commits to getting in shape. I like Friday & his capability, but I also tend to agree that maybe he could have done more in the offseason. Saying he is out of shape as the reason for not playing in Canada is just an excuse. Preseaaon games should be used to earn time for the season. How do you know he is out of shape. Coaches say whatever to excuse the decision not to play someone in favor of another. Friday looked great when I saw him this summer
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Post by Tony on Sept 11, 2017 16:35:31 GMT -5
I like Friday & his capability, but I also tend to agree that maybe he could have done more in the offseason. Saying he is out of shape as the reason for not playing in Canada is just an excuse. Preseaaon games should be used to earn time for the season. How do you know he is out of shape. Coaches say whatever to excuse the decision not to play someone in favor of another. Friday looked great when I saw him this summer Couldn't disagree more. Now we dont know what is going on behind scenes- as most of you know I'm no Jimmy fan- but in this case I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If Friday was told to get in shape ( and I know he was) and didnt the coach flat out CANNOT reward him with playing time. Players aren't "given" playing time, it's "earned" in off season and in practice. If Friday wants to play he will get his a$$ in shape or just shut up and ride the bench
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Post by rickyp on Sept 11, 2017 17:30:53 GMT -5
I had a wise friend/coach who used to say some kids are born with the size but they don't love the game.And coming from working out and coaching kids it's so true you have to love the game of basketball and especially to play D1 basketball it's a job 24/7.Winners do what losers won't a saying a coach i know used to say.I don't know Sammy personally but i have met him nice young man he has talent and even guys on the team say it.Just something not clicking hope the kid unlocks it would love to see him play to his potential.
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Post by bigsaintg on Sept 11, 2017 18:07:19 GMT -5
I had a wise friend/coach who used to say some kids are born with the size but they don't love the game.And coming from working out and coaching kids it's so true you have to love the game of basketball and especially to play D1 basketball it's a job 24/7.Winners do what losers won't a saying a coach i know used to say.I don't know Sammy personally but i have met him nice young man he has talent and even guys on the team say it.Just something not clicking hope the kid unlocks it would love to see him play to his potential. Exhibit A - Steve Downey. Great athlete but would rather work on his car. That's ok to be honest as he probably would rather have been 6-2
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Post by IndianSaint on Sept 11, 2017 21:16:34 GMT -5
I had a wise friend/coach who used to say some kids are born with the size but they don't love the game.And coming from working out and coaching kids it's so true you have to love the game of basketball and especially to play D1 basketball it's a job 24/7.Winners do what losers won't a saying a coach i know used to say.I don't know Sammy personally but i have met him nice young man he has talent and even guys on the team say it.Just something not clicking hope the kid unlocks it would love to see him play to his potential. Exhibit A - Steve Downey. Great athlete but would rather work on his car. That's ok to be honest as he probably would rather have been 6-2 I see Steve at least once a year, at Pizza Mare' in Colonie. Since I visit Pizza Mare' once every week (sometime more) I happen to catch the 7' Downey there; he's not hard to miss.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 12, 2017 13:35:59 GMT -5
Saying he is out of shape as the reason for not playing in Canada is just an excuse. Preseaaon games should be used to earn time for the season. How do you know he is out of shape. Coaches say whatever to excuse the decision not to play someone in favor of another. Friday looked great when I saw him this summer Couldn't disagree more. Now we dont know what is going on behind scenes- as most of you know I'm no Jimmy fan- but in this case I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If Friday was told to get in shape ( and I know he was) and didnt the coach flat out CANNOT reward him with playing time. Players aren't "given" playing time, it's "earned" in off season and in practice. If Friday wants to play he will get his a$$ in shape or just shut up and ride the bench The time to get in shape is now. The time to prove you are ready to earn time includes the scrimmages. The fact is it was already decided that Prince was ahead of Friday before the trip. Friday did not get a chance to prove a anything. He did not get a chance to earn any mins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 13:51:01 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. Now we dont know what is going on behind scenes- as most of you know I'm no Jimmy fan- but in this case I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If Friday was told to get in shape ( and I know he was) and didnt the coach flat out CANNOT reward him with playing time. Players aren't "given" playing time, it's "earned" in off season and in practice. If Friday wants to play he will get his a$$ in shape or just shut up and ride the bench The time to get in shape is now. The time to prove you are ready to earn time includes the scrimmages. The fact is it was already decided that Prince was ahead of Friday before the trip. Friday did not get a chance to prove a anything. He did not get a chance to earn any mins. Umm. Friday has been practicing in front of the coaches for a year and a half. How much time is enough to be defined as a 'chance'? The only guys who can be argued as not getting a chance so far are Camper and Bentley. Everyone else has had their chance. End of story. Stop this nonsense.
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Post by Quackman on Sept 12, 2017 14:10:06 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. Now we dont know what is going on behind scenes- as most of you know I'm no Jimmy fan- but in this case I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If Friday was told to get in shape ( and I know he was) and didnt the coach flat out CANNOT reward him with playing time. Players aren't "given" playing time, it's "earned" in off season and in practice. If Friday wants to play he will get his a$$ in shape or just shut up and ride the bench The time to get in shape is now. The time to prove you are ready to earn time includes the scrimmages. The fact is it was already decided that Prince was ahead of Friday before the trip. Friday did not get a chance to prove a anything. He did not get a chance to earn any mins. He did have a chance to proof himself, by working hard in the off season and getting his body prepared to take the next step.
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Post by Quackman on Sept 12, 2017 14:11:31 GMT -5
The time to get in shape is now. The time to prove you are ready to earn time includes the scrimmages. The fact is it was already decided that Prince was ahead of Friday before the trip. Friday did not get a chance to prove a anything. He did not get a chance to earn any mins. Umm. Friday has been practicing in front of the coaches for a year and a half. How much time is enough to be defined as a 'chance'? The only guys who can be argued as not getting a chance so far are Camper and Bentley. Everyone else has had their chance. End of story. Stop this nonsense. This, actually, I disagree with. Guys improve over time ... if they are doing the work, then they deserve the opportunity. My understanding is the Friday's issues are not skill related but rather having to do with his conditioning (and one would argue, commitment to get better.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:22:14 GMT -5
Umm. Friday has been practicing in front of the coaches for a year and a half. How much time is enough to be defined as a 'chance'? The only guys who can be argued as not getting a chance so far are Camper and Bentley. Everyone else has had their chance. End of story. Stop this nonsense. This, actually, I disagree with. Guys improve over time ... if they are doing the work, then they deserve the opportunity. My understanding is the Friday's issues are not skill related but rather having to do with his conditioning (and one would argue, commitment to get better.) Cool. You just encouraged about 50 posts about this.
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Post by Quackman on Sept 12, 2017 15:03:44 GMT -5
This, actually, I disagree with. Guys improve over time ... if they are doing the work, then they deserve the opportunity. My understanding is the Friday's issues are not skill related but rather having to do with his conditioning (and one would argue, commitment to get better.) Cool. You just encouraged about 50 posts about this. My work is done ... I'll be taking a preseason break now, see you in November.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 13, 2017 8:26:50 GMT -5
The time to get in shape is now. The time to prove you are ready to earn time includes the scrimmages. The fact is it was already decided that Prince was ahead of Friday before the trip. Friday did not get a chance to prove a anything. He did not get a chance to earn any mins. Umm. Friday has been practicing in front of the coaches for a year and a half. How much time is enough to be defined as a 'chance'? The only guys who can be argued as not getting a chance so far are Camper and Bentley. Everyone else has had their chance. End of story. Stop this nonsense. Richard did not get a chance to compete for time at the position he was recruited to play. That was pointed out before practice started Friday did not get a chance to earn ttime at all. The Scimmages are part of preseason. Friday did not play in any of them. 3 mins is not PT. And Richard only played when Nico was out at the 2. These are facts
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