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Post by MTS on Jul 12, 2017 21:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 21:35:57 GMT -5
Did Jimmy just compare himself to Jesus?!? Why not? Jimmy is an angel.
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Post by hooligan on Jul 12, 2017 21:39:06 GMT -5
Did Jimmy just compare himself to Jesus?!? Why not? Jimmy is an angel. That answers it!! Silly me!!
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jul 12, 2017 21:50:17 GMT -5
I've been mostly quiet on this thread but here I go:
I have no idea why Jimmy would say this and why he'd say it now. I agree that we expect too much but it's not the best strategy to criticize the fans when you may be on the hot seat.
Jimmy does deserve some credit for getting us back to relevancy. To be honest, he's at worst the 5th best coach in the MAAC, probably 3rd. However, he knew what he was signing up for. He has to get us back to the NCAA Tournament in the next 2 years or I'll be lining up with pitchfork in hand like the rest of you. However, with what he loses from this year, we can't expect to be a 20+ win team this year. Freshmen don't win games in the MAAC, it's just a fact of life.
To all of you: I really enjoy reading this forum and hearing insight/opinions from all of you. However, the one thing I can't stand is when we stoop to personal attacks on the head coach. If you want to crticize his coaching, that's fine, there's plenty of material. I really don't like the personal insults about his weight and other things. I know for a fact that recruits, family members of recruits, and advisors to recruits (AAU coaches, etc) do read this board and honestly, what player wants to play for a fan base that spends their days calling the coach fat? Let's show some basic courtesy to our coach and hope he can get us to the level we all want to be at.
GO SAINTS!
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Post by gorvy on Jul 12, 2017 22:03:50 GMT -5
He must be talking about some other board.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 22:13:43 GMT -5
He must be talking about some other board. I don't know why all these others don't understand this.
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Post by Tony on Jul 13, 2017 2:50:14 GMT -5
JP is right he did inherit a mess- that was 5 years ago. More I think of it, JP never takes the blame -only reason why JP is lashing out is he realizes Freshmen wonāt get it done for him, he might as well start spinning, itās not his fault, itās the damn Siena fans expecting more than 1 game over 500 after 4 seasons ā the balls on Siena fans actually expecting better than so-so, we actually expect him to win LOL. If JP is right and itās only a handful of message board fans he will be fine. If itās more than that, he is in a heap of trouble if the freshmen struggle this year. JP needs to shut his trap and just win, if he canāt he needs to be shown the door. Any coach needs to sign his primary recruits- JP has struggled to do that at Siena. He is not the hardest worker on the recruiting trail. His poor recruiting has resulted in more than expected transfers- giving scholarships to D2 players, several players with no other D1 interest- consequently Sienaās overall talent level is down. Until Siena can sign a good pct. of their primary recruits we will never have talent to compete for MAAC championship. Jimmy is out of Mitch players - hahaha never thought Iād say that. This yearās team is āhisā team, while I donāt expect a MAAC championship, I do expect a competitive team that shows flashes of being a good team and has potential to win MAAC in next few years. JP knew so-so results (same results he had at Loyola) would not hack it at Siena so I find it āoddā that he is whining about message board fans ā other than his knows his act is wearing thin at Siena ā that seat just got a tad bit hotter!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 3:44:31 GMT -5
Sienaās Jimmy Patsos rips āmessage boardā fans: āIām not going to value (their opinion)ā
Sounds like Jimmy needs a vacation...... or a Snickers bar.
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Post by greenblood on Jul 13, 2017 4:18:50 GMT -5
Sienaās Jimmy Patsos rips āmessage boardā fans: āIām not going to value (their opinion)ā Sounds like Jimmy needs a vacation...... or a Snickers bar. First he needs to stop biting the hands that feed his inflated salary. Results. Period.
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Post by siena77 on Jul 13, 2017 5:17:38 GMT -5
Out of control.
Maybe in his next rant he could acknowledge that Gary Williams provided a little help in Jimmy getting "his" championship ring?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 5:33:30 GMT -5
The fan base is like an iceberg - 10% of it shows itself above the ocean's surface. When there is no good news the unhappy fans (now commonly called "haters" thanks to the millions of posts by a "fan" JP brought to our party) voice their concerns - that is not an exclusive characteristic of just his board. JP can relax - the iceberg has been calving for the last few years and the chill in the TUC has become the new norm. Let's hope we aren't exposed to another season of "Fake Coaching" now that the players are 100% his..... His whining about his inability to control things that his predecessors were able to do (scheduling, recruiting, etc.) speaks volumes about how those above him view his performance - guess that makes me a "hater", LOL. Instead of complaining (on the old fashioned message board - a newspaper) about not being able to take 5th year transfers, he should focus his "skills" on recruiting and developing players who will play for four years with only an occasional redshirt rather than a demonstrated history of wasted scholarships (early transfers, redshirts wasted on players that are encouraged to transfer after sitting the year, scholarships awarded to <D1 level players as favors to his buddies, etc.). His "hard work" winning a National Championship certainly got the attention it deserved as evidenced by him getting the helm at Loyola and the "hard work" he put in there validated how other Programs viewed his skill set in terms of offering him a higher level post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 6:04:55 GMT -5
We should cut JP a little slack on the JC references in his rant - that thought was likely put in his head by our fan base - I've often heard our fans screaming "Jesus Christ what are you doing?" Or "Jesus Christ what are you thinking?" š
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Post by SaintsFan on Jul 13, 2017 6:57:51 GMT -5
Tony and others nailed this. This clown has ZERO regular season titles in the MAAC in 13 years in the MAAC. THIRTEEN. 1 NCAA appearance. ONE. Siena is experiencing first hand what happens when he isnt being spoon-fed BCS Castaways. Player development is mediocre at best. The talent level of the team is worst I have seen in decades. But yeah, keep collecting $300k a year as long as people are willing to piss it away to a career coin flip. You want to know why a significant portion of the fan base is lost?.... He is ranked among Siena coaches EXACTLY where he should be. He is in proper company. Rk | Coach | From | To | Yrs | G | W | L | W-L% | CREG | CTRN | NCAA |
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1 | Jack Carroll | 1939 | 1939 | 1 | 10 | 8 | 2 | .800 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | Paul Hewitt | 1998 | 2000 | 3 | 93 | 66 | 27 | .710 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | Fran McCaffery | 2006 | 2010 | 5 | 163 | 112 | 51 | .687 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | Mike Deane | 1987 | 1994 | 8 | 243 | 166 | 77 | .683 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | Louis Orr | 2001 | 2001 | 1 | 31 | 20 | 11 | .645 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | John Griffin | 1983 | 1986 | 4 | 114 | 70 | 44 | .614 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | Henry Bunoski | 1940 | 1941 | 2 | 37 | 21 | 16 | .568 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | Dan Cunha | 1942 | 1960 | 16 | 362 | 191 | 171 | .528 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | Bill Kirsch | 1977 | 1982 | 6 | 156 | 82 | 74 | .526 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | Jimmy Patsos | 2014 | 2017 | 4 | 137 | 69 | 68 | .504 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 | Rob Lanier | 2002 | 2005 | 4 | 128 | 58 | 70 | .453 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 12 | Mitch Buonaguro | 2011 | 2013 | 3 | 94 | 35 | 59 | .372 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13 | Bob Beyer | 1995 | 1997 | 3 | 81 | 22 | 59 | .272 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 8:00:30 GMT -5
Well. When you have to go and put numbers to it like that...
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Post by th24 on Jul 13, 2017 8:07:41 GMT -5
Well all years of hateful "rhetoric" finally caught up to sienahoops. The only thing worse is some political blogs! Do you think other coaches don't notice?!
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