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Post by greengold4ever on Jan 30, 2017 21:24:11 GMT -5
and that stubborn MFer Patsos finally played quite a bit of zone D tonight, WTF ..............good thing he reads this board to help figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 30, 2017 21:26:58 GMT -5
I don't know the kid personally, but observing his play, Quinny Freshman Peter Kiss seems to have a cockiness to his game, and I loved how he was schooled tonight by Lavon - that was a matchup Siena won all night and maybe the Freshman grew up a bit. Congrats to Siena for recognition of the matchup and congrats to Lavon who was "all world" tonight! This was as good a game as I have seen from any Siena player in a long time - great job by Lavon! JO - loved his authority tonight - THREE dunks - Brett 100% effort again - and Quis, not a good shooting night, but NINE assists and he was running the show! All the pieces to the puzzle fit tonight - well done, Saints. This game was just fun - and the last ten minutes - it is going to take some time to wipe the smile off my face! Go Saints! Agree, but Quinny isn't that good this year.
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Post by billmurray on Jan 30, 2017 21:34:45 GMT -5
Good win. Nothing to complain about tonight from my perspective As for the Iona zone discussion, I don't think playing zone against IC is a guaranteed winning situation given their 3 pt shooting ability. Pick your poison there. We picked the Man to Man poison and it killed us. If we picked the zone poison most likely we are still dead. To win that game Siena had to hit shot and they didn't.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 30, 2017 21:38:05 GMT -5
Good win. Nothing to complain about tonight from my perspective As for the Iona zone discussion, I don't think playing zone against IC is a guaranteed winning situation given their 3 pt shooting ability. Pick your poison there. We picked the Man to Man poison and it killed us. If we picked the zone poison most likely we are still dead. To win that game Siena had to hit shot and they didn't. If I'm Iona, I'm scared of Siena; Siena's on a current road unbeaten streak (after losing the first 10). Iona doesn't stand a chance. Yes, I've been drinking the green & gold victory beers.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Jan 30, 2017 21:39:53 GMT -5
Nice effort from the Saints tonight. Rebounding travels!
The announcers were pretty funny constantly bringing up Siena's awful 3 point shooting, and how it won't let them pull away from Quinnipiac. When in reality, avoiding those occasional bad 3's is exactly what they needed tonight. Not to mention Quinnipiac was 5-16 from 3 - if anyone shot themselves out of the game, it was the Bobcats.
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Post by greengold4ever on Jan 30, 2017 21:42:42 GMT -5
Good win. Nothing to complain about tonight from my perspective As for the Iona zone discussion, I don't think playing zone against IC is a guaranteed winning situation given their 3 pt shooting ability. Pick your poison there. We picked the Man to Man poison and it killed us. If we picked the zone poison most likely we are still dead. To win that game Siena had to hit shot and they didn't. Bill, nobody predicted a win even if Siena played zone................but they had NO CHANCE playing man D.........you extend the zone out farther with our length and see if they hit it from deeper, and of course you try to prevent a lot of dribble drive which you can do by covering gaps.........this group can play solid zone D, and best of all it can "protect" the players from massive foul trouble, something we need since most here feel we don't have a lot of quality depth from the reserves............you have to give your team a chance in a game, that certainly wasn't the case by the staff, truly disappointing...even more so, no adjustment to the zone as they were getting carved up all night getting repeatedly beat............
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 21:46:00 GMT -5
and that stubborn MFer Patsos finally played quite a bit of zone D tonight, WTF ..............good thing he reads this board to help figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zone D = win. Go figure.
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Post by hankla on Jan 30, 2017 21:48:46 GMT -5
I don't know the kid personally, but observing his play, Quinny Freshman Peter Kiss seems to have a cockiness to his game, and I loved how he was schooled tonight by Lavon - that was a matchup Siena won all night and maybe the Freshman grew up a bit. Congrats to Siena for recognition of the matchup and congrats to Lavon who was "all world" tonight! This was as good a game as I have seen from any Siena player in a long time - great job by Lavon! JO - loved his authority tonight - THREE dunks - Brett 100% effort again - and Quis, not a good shooting night, but NINE assists and he was running the show! All the pieces to the puzzle fit tonight - well done, Saints. This game was just fun - and the last ten minutes - it is going to take some time to wipe the smile off my face! Go Saints! Agree, but Quinny isn't that good this year. I S Quinny was good enough to beat Iona at the court you visited tonight.
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Post by hoopsforever on Jan 30, 2017 21:48:56 GMT -5
IS said - "Agree, but Quinny isn't that good this year."
IS - For this season, any win is a good win!!!!!!! Respect your opinion, but as far as Quinny goes, before tonight, they had only lost once (MAAC games) on their home court, and they hold wins against Canisius and Iona- so I won't say they are a terrible MAAC team.
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Post by billmurray on Jan 30, 2017 21:50:42 GMT -5
Good win. Nothing to complain about tonight from my perspective As for the Iona zone discussion, I don't think playing zone against IC is a guaranteed winning situation given their 3 pt shooting ability. Pick your poison there. We picked the Man to Man poison and it killed us. If we picked the zone poison most likely we are still dead. To win that game Siena had to hit shot and they didn't. Bill, nobody predicted a win even if Siena played zone................but they had NO CHANCE playing man D.........you extend the zone out farther with our length and see if they hit it from deeper, and of course you try to prevent a lot of dribble drive which you can do by covering gaps.........this group can play solid zone D, and best of all it can "protect" the players from massive foul trouble, something we need since most here feel we don't have a lot of quality depth from the reserves............you have to give your team a chance in a game, that certainly wasn't the case by the staff, truly disappointing...even more so, no adjustment to the zone as they were getting carved up all night getting repeatedly beat............ IC scored 77 which is below their MAAC average. From my perspective the defense didn't lose the game, it was the lack of offense.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 30, 2017 21:50:58 GMT -5
Agree, but Quinny isn't that good this year. I S Quinny was good enough to beat Iona at the court you visited tonight. Hankla, I'm proud of you. You using the quote feature like a pro now.
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Post by greengold4ever on Jan 30, 2017 21:53:41 GMT -5
Bill, nobody predicted a win even if Siena played zone................but they had NO CHANCE playing man D.........you extend the zone out farther with our length and see if they hit it from deeper, and of course you try to prevent a lot of dribble drive which you can do by covering gaps.........this group can play solid zone D, and best of all it can "protect" the players from massive foul trouble, something we need since most here feel we don't have a lot of quality depth from the reserves............you have to give your team a chance in a game, that certainly wasn't the case by the staff, truly disappointing...even more so, no adjustment to the zone as they were getting carved up all night getting repeatedly beat............ IC scored 77 which is below their MAAC average. From my perspective the defense didn't lose the game, it was the lack of offense. defense didn't lose the game, what game were you watching? ??..........we COULDN'T stop them from scoring...........and our offense wasn't that good because of Iona defense, our three pt shots were mostly rushed & hurried due to Gaels pressure...........so if you shorten the game by forcing them to be deliberate on offense, the score comes down to a more reasonable level and you give yourself a chance.........we are NOT beating Iona if we have to race to 80-90 pts, nope it ain't happening.............
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Post by hankla on Jan 30, 2017 21:54:01 GMT -5
I S you are my I T prof.
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Post by th24 on Jan 30, 2017 21:56:13 GMT -5
sienasaints🏀 Lavon Long with 26 points, a career-high 16 rebounds and a season-high tying 6 assists. Ogunyemi with a season-high 25 points on 12-14 FG.
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Post by greengold4ever on Jan 30, 2017 21:59:49 GMT -5
IC scored 77 which is below their MAAC average. From my perspective the defense didn't lose the game, it was the lack of offense. defense didn't lose the game, what game were you watching? ??..........we COULDN'T stop them from scoring...........and our offense wasn't that good because of Iona defense, our three pt shots were mostly rushed & hurried due to Gaels pressure...........so if you shorten the game by forcing them to be deliberate on offense, the score comes down to a more reasonable level and you give yourself a chance.........we are NOT beating Iona if we have to race to 80-90 pts, nope it ain't happening............. and you do know that IC only scored 77 because the last 4 minutes they took the air out of the ball, not because of stellar D..........they could have scored 90+ easily that night against that man D we were playing, egads swiss cheese deluxe
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