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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 17:37:43 GMT -5
agreed he is somewhere in the middle of those two-- but you said dont expect speed of game to change-- I couldn't disagree more Here is all you need to know about speed of game— Games over 70+ points- Jimmy 14- Mitch 4( and the 4 games were against some of the worst teams in D1- Fordham- and Marist 3 times) Games teams scored 60 points or less – Jimmy 4 – Mitch 17 Times under 50 – Mitch 3—Jimmy zero--- those stats speak for themselves- no comparison in speed of game between Jimmy and Mitch-- and quite frankly its insulting Sorry, I tend to skip over small words sometimes when I'm typing assuming that when I say it in my head it gets written down. Meant to say "don't expect the speed of the game to change too much." Scoring points isn't all about speed though. Again I have to go back to Jimmy's teams drawing a lot of fouls. 1st & 2nd last two years. That's more points scored without time passing on the clock. Plus, they turned the ball over a lot less. Basically, the difference in points scored is largely due to efficiency in doing what they do well. That's not necessarily speed or fast tempo. Jimmy is a better coach than Mitch but it doesn't have all to do with speed. It's cause his teams are more efficient at doing what they do and when they do it. One interesting thing that we've gotten used to under both Fran and Mitch is our overall team discipline for not fouling. Jimmy's teams tend to hack more. Hope Silas doesn't fall into that trap.
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Post by Sienafan on Jun 25, 2013 19:34:48 GMT -5
agreed he is somewhere in the middle of those two-- but you said dont expect speed of game to change-- I couldn't disagree more Here is all you need to know about speed of game— Games over 70+ points- Jimmy 14- Mitch 4( and the 4 games were against some of the worst teams in D1- Fordham- and Marist 3 times) Games teams scored 60 points or less – Jimmy 4 – Mitch 17 Times under 50 – Mitch 3—Jimmy zero--- those stats speak for themselves- no comparison in speed of game between Jimmy and Mitch-- and quite frankly its insulting I actually think JP is going to play a little faster than he did at Loyola. His philosophy was never publically stated as "first one to 80 wins" before his arrival at Siena. I wouldn't go by what he did at Loyola. You guys like to bring up "Fran ball". Well Fran didn't play as fast at UNC Greensboro as he did at Siena - and he's not playing as fast at Iowa either. Often times coaches tailor things to a specific situation. Jimmy had many years to see what style works at Siena and what doesn't. He knows what style won 3 titles in a row there - I think he's smart enough to stick with what works - hence his statement of how he'd play. He even went so far as to say he'd have to evaluate whether the current players could play fast because they always walked the ball up the court. As for Lavon Long, why all the debate? If he's a good teammate he'll play wherever the team needs him without reservation or complaint. The fact is the dude is 6'7, 220. He'll be needed at the 3 against high-major teams that regularly play guys at the 3 that size. But that's more the size of most power forwards in the MAAC, a league where most teams play 3 guards with a 6'3 or 6'4, 185 lb. guy at the 3. If such smaller players end up quicker and are regularly blowing by him at the 3, then he won't see as much action there in those games. There's also the matter of Long's three point shooting. Correct me if I'm wrong but he shoots from downtown at what...33%? That's a bit below average and needs to improve if he expects to be a wing in college. I also think I saw somewhere that his free throw shooting wasn't that great - again correct me if I'm wrong on that. If so, that too won't cut it as a wing in college. If you don't want to be a post player, that's fine - but then you have to be a shooter. We all know that Long gets to the rim with authority - but he will need to be equally adept on the perimeter to be a full-time player at the 3. And ultimately, Long will be the decider of his own fate. JP will give him the benefit of the doubt and mostly play Long at the 3 in the beginning, but it'll be up to Long to determine if he should stay there, or whether he's better suited at the 4. I say he rises to the challenge.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jun 25, 2013 20:13:34 GMT -5
Patsos will give Lavon a chance to prove himself....that's all he needs ..the rest will take care of itself
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Post by redrum on Jun 26, 2013 7:39:05 GMT -5
Long is a power forward plain and simple.Not ready to guard the wing at this level.At least not now.He lead his conference and team in the Baltimore catholic League in fouls, only because of his lateral movement. Not attacking him, just being truthful. Mom, I know you want your son to play the wing. You often compare him to LeBron James on the Baltimore message boards. Maybe he can be a power type guard later in his college career
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Post by Sienafan on Jun 26, 2013 13:56:26 GMT -5
Long is a power forward plain and simple.Not ready to guard the wing at this level.At least not now.He lead his conference and team in the Baltimore catholic League in fouls, only because of his lateral movement. Not attacking him, just being truthful. Mom, I know you want your son to play the wing. You often compare him to LeBron James on the Baltimore message boards. Maybe he can be a power type guard later in his college career To be fair, Long was playing out of position as his team's center most of his H.S. career. As a result, he wasn't afforded much opportuity to show what skills he may possess as a wing. He will now get that chance in college and we'll see what he can do at the 3. I think it's premature to say he's not ready to guard that position in college, as no one has seem him attempt to do so yet.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jun 26, 2013 15:30:39 GMT -5
That's why we did not pick a school that shares your Opinion ....Lavon did not lead the league in fouls but he did lead in rebounds, steals, and blocked shots playing center on the BCL champion his jr year.....HS is over and Lavon is ready to contribute ....the work he puts in will determine what that contribution will be. Long is a power forward plain and simple.Not ready to guard the wing at this level.At least not now.He lead his conference and team in the Baltimore catholic League in fouls, only because of his lateral movement. Not attacking him, just being truthful. Mom, I know you want your son to play the wing. You often compare him to LeBron James on the Baltimore message boards. Maybe he can be a power type guard later in his college career
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Post by $cott on Jun 26, 2013 15:42:54 GMT -5
PPG don't take the bait redrum is just a msg board troll & just trying to get a reaction. Let it go. Not a troll, just critical analysis. Most college athletes parents don't participate on fan message boards. That is for good reason. When it comes to Long, I will just keep my big mouth shut. Mom is definitely an enthusiastic fan (to say the least) Long is a power forward plain and simple.Not ready to guard the wing at this level.At least not now.He lead his conference and team in the Baltimore catholic League in fouls, only because of his lateral movement. Not attacking him, just being truthful. Mom, I know you want your son to play the wing. You often compare him to LeBron James on the Baltimore message boards. Maybe he can be a power type guard later in his college career That lasted a while...
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Post by siena77 on Jun 26, 2013 20:20:55 GMT -5
That's why we did not pick a school that shares your Opinion ....Lavon did not lead the league in fouls but he did lead in rebounds, steals, and blocked shots playing center on the BCL champion his jr year.....HS is over and Lavon is ready to contribute ....the work he puts in will determine what that contribution will be. That's what we love to hear. Welcome again to Lavon and family.
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