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Post by siena12077 on Jun 23, 2013 15:13:23 GMT -5
For people who have seen Javion play...do you see him as a strong post player his freshman year? I have and dont see the physicality or motor for him to play more than 20 min a game as a frosh. Needs to get stronger and develop his footwork. Plus I think Silas is bound to have a break out year if he stays on the floor. Game changing devensive anchor at the rim and can control the glass in the maac. Offensive garbage point and some buckets here and there. If he gets more than 25 min a game he will be a 3rd team all maac big man What would lead you to believe Silas will be that good? I mean it is almost like he would have to have inherited skills through osmosis.......... I just don't see it. I hope your right and I'm wrong, I just don't see it. Completely understandable. Its more an aggressive prediction on my part. I think you pro rate his number from last year, they get a little better. No OD means more boards for him, and patsos teams get more shots up so it could mean more offensive boards/put backs/lay ips for him. He can run for a big man so he might get another bucket there a game. He will be the focal point of a pick and roll, not OD. We already know he has good hands, and his footwork really improved over last year. He has a year of playing under his belt, is being coached up, and ive heard from multiple ppl on campus who have seen him working out. He will be physically imposing in the MAAC. If he stays healthy and out of foul trouble I can see him putting up 8ppg, 10rpg, 2bpg in the maac and make an all league team
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jun 23, 2013 15:35:56 GMT -5
I like the improvement in Silas' build...he runs the floor well with good footwork down low ...I think the Cohesion these guys develop will bring out the best in them all...it starts in practice and I hear the workouts and pickup games are going well
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Post by siena12077 on Jun 23, 2013 16:15:40 GMT -5
I like the improvement in Silas' build...he runs the floor well with good footwork down low ...I think the Cohesion these guys develop will bring out the best in them all...it starts in practice and I hear the workouts and pickup games are going well Even though LaVon is a frosh, I think he can do so many things well with or without the ball on offense. He could create a lot of mismatches and also distribute the ball. I think he will put in the work to be physically ready to rebound the ball, at least in the maac this year. Thats why his all around numbers might be the best as he can do some of eerything, and also why he should get atleast 28 mpg this season
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Post by hoopsfan12321 on Jun 23, 2013 20:55:19 GMT -5
I think we have create tentative plans without Buie as well. Realistically, it's going to be pretty tough for him to get a waver. The NCAA knows that he was essentially asked to leave 2 schools, and if he was really transferring due to hardship, he would have not gone driving without a license in March. But regardless, I think it's a good idea to have some charts with him and some without.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 22:14:47 GMT -5
For people who have seen Javion play...do you see him as a strong post player his freshman year? I have and dont see the physicality or motor for him to play more than 20 min a game as a frosh. Needs to get stronger and develop his footwork. Plus I think Silas is bound to have a break out year if he stays on the floor. Game changing devensive anchor at the rim and can control the glass in the maac. Offensive garbage point and some buckets here and there. If he gets more than 25 min a game he will be a 3rd team all maac big man What would lead you to believe Silas will be that good? I mean it is almost like he would have to have inherited skills through osmosis.......... I just don't see it. I hope your right and I'm wrong, I just don't see it. Silas has all the post moves he needs to be successful. He had a 60% FG%. He also is an aggressive shot blocker. He had 31 blocks in just 505 minutes, and he was clearly nervous at the beginning of last year. This is a guy who averaged over 3 blocks a game in a prep league playing against mostly other future college players. I think 70 blocks is quite attainable for this guy. That would put him up there with Kemp and at least approaching Rhamel Brown. Silas can be very successful in this league.
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Post by musicman on Jun 24, 2013 11:05:38 GMT -5
What would lead you to believe Silas will be that good? I mean it is almost like he would have to have inherited skills through osmosis.......... I just don't see it. I hope your right and I'm wrong, I just don't see it. Silas has all the post moves he needs to be successful. He had a 60% FG%. He also is an aggressive shot blocker. He had 31 blocks in just 505 minutes, and he was clearly nervous at the beginning of last year. This is a guy who averaged over 3 blocks a game in a prep league playing against mostly other future college players. I think 70 blocks is quite attainable for this guy. That would put him up there with Kemp and at least approaching Rhamel Brown. Silas can be very successful in this league. I agree, Silas is going to have a great year. I think he will have more versatility in his game than OD. One key to our front line should be the improvement of Bisping. There is no doubt that there will be times where JP has to sit Silas due to fouls. Bisping is going to have to step up and do a better job down low this season. I also totally agree with the comment about Lavon possibly being our most versatile player. With his motor, I feel he is going to step up in a big way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 15:41:52 GMT -5
What would lead you to believe Silas will be that good? I mean it is almost like he would have to have inherited skills through osmosis.......... I just don't see it. I hope your right and I'm wrong, I just don't see it. Silas has all the post moves he needs to be successful. He had a 60% FG%. He also is an aggressive shot blocker. He had 31 blocks in just 505 minutes, and he was clearly nervous at the beginning of last year. This is a guy who averaged over 3 blocks a game in a prep league playing against mostly other future college players. I think 70 blocks is quite attainable for this guy. That would put him up there with Kemp and at least approaching Rhamel Brown. Silas can be very successful in this league. And he can foul out of a game in 2 minutes............ If the coaches work with him on the fouls and he can learn to let the game come to him you guys may be on to something. I guess the Canadian trip will be a good indicator. Audu is the kid I want to see improve, if he can only stop dribbling off his foot.
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Post by diamonddog on Jun 24, 2013 16:51:43 GMT -5
If Jimmy is good at developing on what we have right now, I would say a top 5 finish is realistic. (Top 5 means you get a bye in the MAAC tournament)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 17:46:05 GMT -5
Silas has all the post moves he needs to be successful. He had a 60% FG%. He also is an aggressive shot blocker. He had 31 blocks in just 505 minutes, and he was clearly nervous at the beginning of last year. This is a guy who averaged over 3 blocks a game in a prep league playing against mostly other future college players. I think 70 blocks is quite attainable for this guy. That would put him up there with Kemp and at least approaching Rhamel Brown. Silas can be very successful in this league. And he can foul out of a game in 2 minutes............ If the coaches work with him on the fouls and he can learn to let the game come to him you guys may be on to something. I guess the Canadian trip will be a good indicator. Audu is the kid I want to see improve, if he can only stop dribbling off his foot. Believe it or not, Silas fouled out of a game only once last year (3/1 vs Marist). Granted there were games where he had 3 fouls in a span of 5 mins but he didn't foul out. A lot of his fouls are stupid fouls so those are things you can fix. I think he just needed a year to get the jitters out and get over that illegal screen stuff. The real problem is we played with 2 centers. If Silas gets a lot of OD's post touches, he'll put up more points. Mitch didn't play Silas/Martens or Silas/Bisping combos much. Those lineups were much more versatile on offense and spread the floor more while still having a shotblocker. There is no PF that Jimmy can put out there this year that won't spread the floor more than an OD/Silas combo. All these guys have 15 ft jumpers at the very least. Silas, actually took it against double teams and scored quite a bit as well last year. Obviously, teams were there already to cover OD but when he got it they moved over to him. Also, I think Silas is a better FT shooter than OD despite the FT%. His shot just looks way better. He just needs to put more work in on it.
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Post by MTS on Jun 24, 2013 19:21:25 GMT -5
I appreciate my name on this thread - but it's hard to do a depth chart with minutes until we see if Buie will be playing this season or not. If he plays he starts at SG no question and Hymes/Wright man the PG position. This enables Jimmy to move Poole to SF his natural position and Lavon starts at PF (with SF skills) and Imoh at the 5. If Buie can play he will obviously make Siena better at SG but also PG and SF. Hopefully we will know what's up with Buie soon - maybe in July. The practice time and the Montreal trip should really help the team gell. With Buie I think we can a top 3 team and darkhorse MAAC title contender. Without him we can still have a winning season but it will be a lot tougher of course.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jun 24, 2013 23:39:00 GMT -5
If Javion is the projected starter at the 4 I would not put Lavon there to make room for Buie...Lavon can come off the bench if Poole is a better option at the 3 than he is
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 8:50:22 GMT -5
If Javion is the projected starter at the 4 I would not put Lavon there to make room for Buie...Lavon can come off the bench if Poole is a better option at the 3 than he is Hold your tongue! I will not have you talking down Lavon to a bench player! I'm very disappointed in you right now. I'm gonna need some time.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jun 25, 2013 9:45:33 GMT -5
Just trying to get along KK .....Lavon does not care if he starts or not...he will get it done when he gets out there....I always believe he will earn his time and searched for a place that he can play his game...so if he is not the best option at the 3 coming in.... he can fight for it and earn his minutes rather than play out of position like in HS....he needs to play with size to maximize his potential...not the best for him to be the size if that can be avoided
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Post by $cott on Jun 25, 2013 10:32:34 GMT -5
Maybe it is just 3 years of having slow it down basketball but the prospect of Buie, Poole, and Long out there at the same time sounds far more exciting to me right now than Ogunyemi and Silas out there together.
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Post by siena12077 on Jun 25, 2013 10:49:20 GMT -5
Maybe it is just 3 years of having slow it down basketball but the prospect of Buie, Poole, and Long out there at the same time sounds far more exciting to me right now than Ogunyemi and Silas out there together. I agree. I like the idea of playing 4 guys around 1 post player (Silas). Hymes and Poole can shoot the 3 well and Buie and Long can drive to the hoop well. By far would be the most diverse line-up to start. Long would only be labeled a "4." He can use his skills on the perimeter to drive and distribute and crash the offensive glass. It will open the floor for other drivers too. If Silas learns to pass well out of the post it would work perfectly. Plus that line-up could really get up and down the floor. Of course it's all a big if depending on Buie. If he doesn't sign and get a waiver, more offense will need to come from others besides Hymes and Poole again.
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