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Post by MTS on Feb 3, 2024 17:57:56 GMT -5
Contract isn’t a factor according to the AD.
Same articles were written 19, 11 and 6 years ago
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Post by frank85 on Feb 3, 2024 18:08:38 GMT -5
A couple of excerpts and an acknowledgment that mistakes were made…
D’Argenio and Maciariello agreed relying heavily on high-school recruits instead of transfers this season was a mistake. Siena entered the season with the third-youngest roster in the country and didn’t bring in a veteran point guard to replace McCollum.
“Now with the way the portal is and player mobility, it’s going to be a new team every season,” Maciariello said. “Maybe my shortsightedness in thinking that you could take younger guys and hard-wire them as opposed to older guys. In my previous teams, they were all older. All of them.”
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Post by saints15 on Feb 3, 2024 18:11:59 GMT -5
A couple of excerpts and an acknowledgment that mistakes were made… D’Argenio and Maciariello agreed relying heavily on high-school recruits instead of transfers this season was a mistake. Siena entered the season with the third-youngest roster in the country and didn’t bring in a veteran point guard to replace McCollum. “Now with the way the portal is and player mobility, it’s going to be a new team every season,” Maciariello said. “Maybe my shortsightedness in thinking that you could take younger guys and hard-wire them as opposed to older guys. In my previous teams, they were all older. All of them.” He even has to put a qualifier ‘maybe’ when trying to admit mistakes. 🙄
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Post by frank85 on Feb 3, 2024 18:29:40 GMT -5
A couple of excerpts and an acknowledgment that mistakes were made… D’Argenio and Maciariello agreed relying heavily on high-school recruits instead of transfers this season was a mistake. Siena entered the season with the third-youngest roster in the country and didn’t bring in a veteran point guard to replace McCollum. “Now with the way the portal is and player mobility, it’s going to be a new team every season,” Maciariello said. “Maybe my shortsightedness in thinking that you could take younger guys and hard-wire them as opposed to older guys. In my previous teams, they were all older. All of them.” He even has to put a qualifier ‘maybe’ when trying to admit mistakes. 🙄 Yeah, I noticed that too. He also said he was studying the roster components (grad transfer, JUCO, high school recruits, portal) of the top 4 teams in each mid major conference. I wish he did it two years ago…..
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 3, 2024 18:31:40 GMT -5
This article is nothing more than a failed attempt at damage control by the two masterminds.
It took him this long to come to this realization? Bull$hit.
Many of the regulars that post here expressed concern as this roster was being assembled.
Carm’s a 5th year head coach he couldn’t identify the risk or spot this roster’s shortcomings as he was looking at players? Where was the planning, almost every coach has a system and recruits to fit it. Carm’s rosters over the last few years often look like he’s throwing darts at a board. He failed to do his job. EOS!
I don’t believe a word he says moving forward, he’s in save his a$$ mode.
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Post by $cott on Feb 3, 2024 18:33:06 GMT -5
Contract isn’t a factor according to the AD. Same articles were written 17, 11 and 6 years ago Yes, but none of those 3 times had St Rose just abruptly shutdown. If you already have a board that doesn't care much about athletics and then you shock their system with the possibility that the school might not even exist in 10 years, even the most sympathetic board members towards basketball are having a tough time justifying eating that cost. More than likely, an alumni or group of alumni are going to have to step in with the funds to eat two years of contract. Or we get to look forward to Carm's new excuses next year.
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Post by billmurray on Feb 3, 2024 18:33:18 GMT -5
It was obvious that the portal was the only way to be competitive two years ago. Shortsightedness is one thing, failure to understand the obvious is another. Failure is failure. It is complete failure. Both the AD and the HC should accept the consequences of their decisions. Again, this situation was obvious to the casual observer. These guys get paid big dollars to understand the landscape and they failed to see the obvious. There is no excuse. Period. The ball is in college president's court and he would be an incompetent administrator if he doesn't see it. I hope he is not. Both D'Arg and Carm have to go, they have both failed to see the change in the landscape of college basketball and have totally failed their primary mission. If you accept failure by your subordinates, you are a failure. This guy has taught business administration for his entire career. He should recognize failure when he sees it. Harsh but true.
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Post by frank85 on Feb 3, 2024 18:37:55 GMT -5
Nothing more than damage control by the two masterminds. It took him this long to come to this realization? Bull$hit. Many of us on this board expressed concern as this roster was being assembled. Carm’s a 5th year head coach he couldn’t identify the risk it spot this roster’s shortcomings? I don’t believe a word he says moving forward, he’s in save his a$$ mode. Agreed. The tone of this article is much different than last week from both the AD and Carm. But we all know Siena isn’t eating two years of that contract. I wonder if D’Arg has also learned from his reoccurring mistake of ‘panic contract extensions’.
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Post by MTS on Feb 3, 2024 18:41:57 GMT -5
Contract isn’t a factor according to the AD. Same articles were written 17, 11 and 6 years ago Yes, but none of those 3 times had St Rose just abruptly shutdown. If you already have a board that doesn't care much about athletics and then you shock their system with the possibility that the school might not even exist in 10 years, even the most sympathetic board members towards basketball are having a tough time justifying eating that cost. More than likely, an alumni or group of alumni are going to have to step in with the funds to eat two years of contract. Or we get to look forward to Carm's new excuses next year. That’s how all the changes got made. The boosters bought it out. Siena could be gone in 2034? All the more reason to start winning again lol
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Post by $cott on Feb 3, 2024 19:09:44 GMT -5
Yes, but none of those 3 times had St Rose just abruptly shutdown. If you already have a board that doesn't care much about athletics and then you shock their system with the possibility that the school might not even exist in 10 years, even the most sympathetic board members towards basketball are having a tough time justifying eating that cost. More than likely, an alumni or group of alumni are going to have to step in with the funds to eat two years of contract. Or we get to look forward to Carm's new excuses next year. That’s how all the changes got made. The boosters bought it out. Siena could be gone in 2034? All the more reason to start winning again lol I certainly hope not but I do know that we have reached the point where 99% of what you can actually learn during college is readily available for free over YouTube. Yet tuition keeps going up so just seems a matter of time before the whole "first in my family to graduate college" novelty wears off and is replaced by "first in my family to get a good job and not be crippled by student loan debt". We know the public schools are going to continue to exist and continue to be able to offer lower tuition thanks to state aid. We know the elite private schools will continue to exist as a way to show status. And we know the bottom of the barrel private schools will continue to exist cause of rich kids that can't get in anywhere else. So that leaves the mid-tier private schools as the most likely to feel the brunt of decreased enrollment. Hopefully Siena weathers the storm and is still thriving in 2034 but I fully expect at least 10 schools that fit the Siena profile will be gone by then. And probably another 10 that have to drop to bottom barrel private schools just to survive.
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Post by skipc on Feb 3, 2024 19:09:49 GMT -5
It was obvious that the portal was the only way to be competitive two years ago. Shortsightedness is one thing, failure to understand the obvious is another. Failure is failure. It is complete failure. Both the AD and the HC should accept the consequences of their decisions. Again, this situation was obvious to the casual observer. These guys get paid big dollars to understand the landscape and they failed to see the obvious. There is no excuse. Period. The ball is in college president's court and he would be an incompetent administrator if he doesn't see it. I hope he is not. Both D'Arg and Carm have to go, they have both failed to see the change in the landscape of college basketball and have totally failed their primary mission. If you accept failure by your subordinates, you are a failure. This guy has taught business administration for his entire career. He should recognize failure when he sees it. Harsh but true. +1,000 - BM has been as patient and fair during this dark period as most on this board. Always trying to remain positive with his posts. When you lose him, you’ve lost the majority of your fan base not just the diehards. And I can’t agree with him more. Well stated.
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