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Nov 24, 2018 9:20:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 9:20:50 GMT -5
While I’m not ready to write off Darwiche 5 games into his college career- I tend to agree, if Georges can’t get into rotation before end of year, little chance of him getting time next year with Pickett Carey, Walker and Richards, even if he does get into rotation this year, going to be tough next year with those 4 guards ahead of him. Fact Georges is having trouble beating out Bayer for backup PG does not bode well for him. But I’m OK with that, can’t all be stars, work on your game, and maybe by time he is junior or senior he can give us some minutes as a role player Right decision is for the kid to move on. JC, Siena should go out of their way to make sure kids gets a ship elsewhere and kid should be receptive to this. Not sure kid wants to be a bench warmer. This is exactly what the last regime was blasted non stop for. Give Georges a season to get accustomed to the college game. He’ll know exactly where he stands then.
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Nov 24, 2018 9:28:31 GMT -5
Post by bigfan on Nov 24, 2018 9:28:31 GMT -5
I still have hope for him, but it certainly is getting crowded in the backcourt going forward. He would have to show pretty strong from a pure PG standpoint to earn minutes in the coming months/years.
I'm rooting for the kid - he looked SO good in the film I had watched previously. If he can be THAT guy, he'll find time.
Conversely, it could be that all of his prior competition had lead in their shoes and he just can't hang with D1 athletes. Time will tell.
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Nov 24, 2018 9:47:19 GMT -5
Post by greengold4ever on Nov 24, 2018 9:47:19 GMT -5
The Huerter thing I don’t get... he’s terrible. As for Seymour, I am okay with having a guy whose job is just to shoot, when you surround him with all-around players like a Pickett, Camper, Carey, or Burns who will rebound and switch. He has tremendous shooting gravity, which creates room for our PG’s in the PnR and creates driving lanes for our wings because you can’t help down off him. Right now he’s a work in progress, no doubt. But I have no problem giving a scholarship to a local kid with a D1 skill and hoping they develop the rest... if nothing else he can be a 8-10 mpg spot shooter on a good team. Consider that Thomas in the coaches opinions may bring an intangible element to the floor in small spurts. My only slight observation of Pickett is he often does not see wide open options from the top of the key once he starts dribbling into the paint. As a teacher you don't just give up on a kid who is going through a really tough period when their performance evaluations are as public as this. If you do you will get nothing. The show of support putting him on the floor in small spurts has higher probability of getting the kid to do whatever it takes to elevate to a higher level than burying him. Just my thought. I think you would be right about Huerter's intangibles if this was last season..............but you would think that he would have taken another step forward as a junior yet afraid to say his overall game has taken a big step backwards................not sure why, as we know the pedigree is certainly there, so perhaps something else is going on behind the scenes.................
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 24, 2018 18:32:18 GMT -5
Consider that Thomas in the coaches opinions may bring an intangible element to the floor in small spurts. My only slight observation of Pickett is he often does not see wide open options from the top of the key once he starts dribbling into the paint. As a teacher you don't just give up on a kid who is going through a really tough period when their performance evaluations are as public as this. If you do you will get nothing. The show of support putting him on the floor in small spurts has higher probability of getting the kid to do whatever it takes to elevate to a higher level than burying him. Just my thought. I think you would be right about Huerter's intangibles if this was last season..............but you would think that he would have taken another step forward as a junior yet afraid to say his overall game has taken a big step backwards................not sure why, as we know the pedigree is certainly there, so perhaps something else is going on behind the scenes................. The "pedigree" might be the real issue. Can't imagine it's been easy all these years not being in the same league as your younger brother. I feel for the young man because I've seen him do well in past years, but at this point it seems to have gone backwards for him.
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Nov 24, 2018 19:34:58 GMT -5
Post by greenblood on Nov 24, 2018 19:34:58 GMT -5
I think you would be right about Huerter's intangibles if this was last season..............but you would think that he would have taken another step forward as a junior yet afraid to say his overall game has taken a big step backwards................not sure why, as we know the pedigree is certainly there, so perhaps something else is going on behind the scenes................. The "pedigree" might be the real issue. Can't imagine it's been easy all these years not being in the same league as your younger brother. I feel for the young man because I've seen him do well in past years, but at this point it seems to have gone backwards for him. This has been my daughter's opinion for the last 4 years.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 24, 2018 20:29:42 GMT -5
I want to tread lightly because I respect and admire the entire Huerter family...but Tom's shot in particular has really regressed. I can't imagine how it has gotten to this point where the "uplift" part of the motion has become so exaggerated. He has a lot of good basketball people in his life...I don't understand how it has come to this. For his sake, and for the team, I hope he can work to minimize this and improve his shooting confidence.
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Nov 24, 2018 20:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 24, 2018 20:30:44 GMT -5
Right decision is for the kid to move on. JC, Siena should go out of their way to make sure kids gets a ship elsewhere and kid should be receptive to this. Not sure kid wants to be a bench warmer. This is exactly what the last regime was blasted non stop for. Give Georges a season to get accustomed to the college game. He’ll know exactly where he stands then. I disagree on Darwiche. He's on a team where he can't take the floor as the only other ball handler is the guy he would sub for. This team currently affords him little opportunity to grow in - game because of the lack of talent outside of pickett. I actually think he gets more time if Richard and Carey are playing. Right now if he's in the game he's the only ball handler on the floor... So opponents push out on him as he plays with the bench. Let's see him as he progresses and the team gets a few ball handlers to help
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Post by Tony on Nov 24, 2018 20:31:41 GMT -5
I think part of the problem with Huerter and many of the others, they are trying to do “too” much. Most of them are basically role players trying to play meaningful minutes. That’s why you get some guys say play Friday more, other say play Friday less etc etc, the truth of the matter is most of these guys don’t have talent to be solid MAAC level players. Prior coach recruited horribly and he could almost never land any of his priority recruits in competitive situations so consequently he recruited many guys with very little or no other D1 interest. Many of these guys would have ended up in D2 had Jimmy not given them scholarships. This is the cross we must bear until Jamion restocks the shelfs. (which he is well on his way of doing) Jamion can try different things this year , but other than Jalen he just isn’t working with a lot of talent
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Post by Tony on Nov 24, 2018 20:33:47 GMT -5
BTW Huerter was more than likely headed to D2 had jimmy not given him a scholarship. And trust me that's not an insult-- many D2 can really play, but there is a reason why they are in D2- so I'm not sure it's fair we expect too much out of TH
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Nov 24, 2018 20:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 24, 2018 20:40:20 GMT -5
BTW Huerter was more than likely headed to D2 had jimmy not given him a scholarship. And trust me that's not an insult-- many D2 can really play, but there is a reason why they are in D2- so I'm not sure it's fair we expect too much out of TH Agreed.
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Post by Tony on Nov 24, 2018 20:43:38 GMT -5
This is exactly what the last regime was blasted non stop for. Give Georges a season to get accustomed to the college game. He’ll know exactly where he stands then. I disagree on Darwiche. He's on a team where he can't take the floor as the only other ball handler is the guy he would sub for. This team currently affords him little opportunity to grow in - game because of the lack of talent outside of pickett. I actually think he gets more time if Richard and Carey are playing. Right now if he's in the game he's the only ball handler on the floor... So opponents push out on him as he plays with the bench. Let's see him as he progresses and the team gets a few ball handlers to help You are doing same thing with Darwiche that you did with Joel Wincowski, remember how you thought he would be great- he now averaging 10 ppg in D3. Hey I hope Georges works out, but if you can’t get any play with this team, it’s not getting better next year with Pickett, Carey, Richard and Walker all in front of him- he will be 5th guard at best. Hopefully he works on his game and after Richard leaves can be role player for team as 4th guard
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Nov 24, 2018 20:45:00 GMT -5
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Post by Quackman on Nov 24, 2018 20:45:00 GMT -5
This is exactly what the last regime was blasted non stop for. Give Georges a season to get accustomed to the college game. He’ll know exactly where he stands then. I disagree on Darwiche. He's on a team where he can't take the floor as the only other ball handler is the guy he would sub for. This team currently affords him little opportunity to grow in - game because of the lack of talent outside of pickett. I actually think he gets more time if Richard and Carey are playing. Right now if he's in the game he's the only ball handler on the floor... So opponents push out on him as he plays with the bench. Let's see him as he progresses and the team gets a few ball handlers to help Yeah I don’t get your argument... if the coach thought he could help, he’d play Pickett and Georges at the same time for at least a couple of minutes a game. The kid is a freshman that joined the team late. He deserves time to see if he’ll catch up to the speed and athleticism. But right now, he isn’t able to help the team.
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Nov 24, 2018 20:45:31 GMT -5
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Post by indian82 on Nov 24, 2018 20:45:31 GMT -5
While I’m not ready to write off Darwiche 5 games into his college career- I tend to agree, if Georges can’t get into rotation before end of year, little chance of him getting time next year with Pickett Carey, Walker and Richards, even if he does get into rotation this year, going to be tough next year with those 4 guards ahead of him. Fact Georges is having trouble beating out Bayer for backup PG does not bode well for him. But I’m OK with that, can’t all be stars, work on your game, and maybe by time he is junior or senior he can give us some minutes as a role player Right decision is for the kid to move on. JC, Siena should go out of their way to make sure kids gets a ship elsewhere and kid should be receptive to this. Not sure kid wants to be a bench warmer. If you know he's unhappy here after 6 games, then yes, he should move on. But not sure how many kids you expect to be in the rotation. It would be rare to go more than 10 deep. Every coach has scholarship players who rarely see the court.
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Nov 24, 2018 20:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 24, 2018 20:46:42 GMT -5
Winkowski mistake was he was more into weed than he was into basketball. He had the talent without the work ethic. I cant speak to players character.
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Nov 24, 2018 20:48:11 GMT -5
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 24, 2018 20:48:11 GMT -5
I disagree on Darwiche. He's on a team where he can't take the floor as the only other ball handler is the guy he would sub for. This team currently affords him little opportunity to grow in - game because of the lack of talent outside of pickett. I actually think he gets more time if Richard and Carey are playing. Right now if he's in the game he's the only ball handler on the floor... So opponents push out on him as he plays with the bench. Let's see him as he progresses and the team gets a few ball handlers to help Yeah I don’t get your argument... if the coach thought he could help, he’d play Pickett and Georges at the same time for at least a couple of minutes a game. The kid is a freshman that joined the team late. He deserves time to see if he’ll catch up to the speed and athleticism. But right now, he isn’t able to help the team. While true what are smithen and Bayer doing
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