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Post by Quackman on Nov 24, 2018 20:56:24 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t get your argument... if the coach thought he could help, he’d play Pickett and Georges at the same time for at least a couple of minutes a game. The kid is a freshman that joined the team late. He deserves time to see if he’ll catch up to the speed and athleticism. But right now, he isn’t able to help the team. While true what are smithen and Bayer doing Smithen is no longer playing point. He takes campers spot usually. Bayer is playing like 4 or 5 minutes at the 1, but hasn’t shown much. Not sure what your point is though. I am not down on the kid, just don’t think he has proven himself to the coach as being able to provide meaningful minutes. I also think Siena should go smaller with Pickett,camper and Smithen playing minutes at the same time.
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 24, 2018 21:02:17 GMT -5
I'm liking what we are starting to see from camper.
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Nov 24, 2018 21:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by Tony on Nov 24, 2018 21:04:27 GMT -5
While true what are smithen and Bayer doing Smithen is no longer playing point. He takes campers spot usually. Bayer is playing like 4 or 5 minutes at the 1, but hasn’t shown much. Not sure what your point is though. I am not down on the kid, just don’t think he has proven himself to the coach as being able to provide meaningful minutes. I also think Siena should go smaller with Pickett,camper and Smithen playing minutes at the same time. I agree with this big time.. Siena giving up way and I mean way too many wide open 3's playing the 3 big guys they are not quick enough to cover corners and both Seymour and Degnan have given up baseline several times this year - try going a bit smaller and quicker
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Post by greengold4ever on Nov 24, 2018 21:10:04 GMT -5
I'm liking what we are starting to see from camper. agreed, at this point he is the "most improved" of the returning players.......has some nice upside.........likely this off season, they work on his 3 ball shooting, would expect that to improve with this coaching staff for sure.............
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Post by saints22 on Nov 25, 2018 8:35:52 GMT -5
I'm liking what we are starting to see from camper. agreed, at this point he is the "most improved" of the returning players.......has some nice upside.........likely this off season, they work on his 3 ball shooting, would expect that to improve with this coaching staff for sure............. He does some very nice thing,s but some free-throw shooting improvement would be nice, too.
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Post by gosaints on Nov 25, 2018 19:11:53 GMT -5
While true what are smithen and Bayer doing Smithen is no longer playing point. He takes campers spot usually. Bayer is playing like 4 or 5 minutes at the 1, but hasn’t shown much. Not sure what your point is though. I am not down on the kid, just don’t think he has proven himself to the coach as being able to provide meaningful minutes. I also think Siena should go smaller with Pickett,camper and Smithen playing minutes at the same time. I'm fine with this as long as Smithen is going to shoot the ball when he's open. We don't need another player on the floor that the other team doesn't have to worry about when we're on offense!
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 25, 2018 19:45:20 GMT -5
When Burns gets here I would like to see JC go with Pickett Smithen Camper Fisher and Burns. With that lineup you can press more effectively, you’re much quicker and have a solid frontcourt. Rotate in Degnan, Seymour and Friday and a guard.
Now that Camper is starting to take the ball to the hoop, JC needs to figure out how to get Smithen going a bit on offense, he’s a already a good defender and capable ball handler.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 25, 2018 20:39:49 GMT -5
When Burns gets here I would like to see JC go with Pickett Smithen Camper Fisher and Burns. With that lineup you can press more effectively, you’re much quicker and have a solid frontcourt. Rotate in Degnan, Seymour and Friday and a guard. Now that Camper is starting to take the ball to the hoop, JC needs to figure out how to get Smithen going a bit on offense, he’s a already a good defender and capable ball handler. Unless JC greatly changes his philosophy, I wouldn't expect this lineup. Not enough 3 point shooters in there. Might work with Seymour or Degnan in place of Fisher, assuming Burns can man the middle. It's going to be interesting to see how he integrates Burns if he actually can play this season.
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 25, 2018 20:51:05 GMT -5
When Burns gets here I would like to see JC go with Pickett Smithen Camper Fisher and Burns. With that lineup you can press more effectively, you’re much quicker and have a solid frontcourt. Rotate in Degnan, Seymour and Friday and a guard. Now that Camper is starting to take the ball to the hoop, JC needs to figure out how to get Smithen going a bit on offense, he’s a already a good defender and capable ball handler. Unless JC greatly changes his philosophy, I wouldn't expect this lineup. Not enough 3 point shooters in there. Might work with Seymour or Degnan in place of Fisher, assuming Burns can man the middle. It's going to be interesting to see how he integrates Burns if he actually can play this season. Maybe or maybe not. Judging by the 3 pt shooting over the last few games he may not have a choice, wanting something and having it actually work are two different things. It’s early so we’ll have to see if we can break out of this slump. But I think part of the issue is Degnan and Seymour are now well known and somewhat easy to scheme against. Our long ball guys outside of Pickett are pretty one dimensional. So JC maybe forced to go another direction.
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 26, 2018 12:21:13 GMT -5
When Burns gets here I would like to see JC go with Pickett Smithen Camper Fisher and Burns. With that lineup you can press more effectively, you’re much quicker and have a solid frontcourt. Rotate in Degnan, Seymour and Friday and a guard. Now that Camper is starting to take the ball to the hoop, JC needs to figure out how to get Smithen going a bit on offense, he’s a already a good defender and capable ball handler. Unless JC greatly changes his philosophy, I wouldn't expect this lineup. Not enough 3 point shooters in there. Might work with Seymour or Degnan in place of Fisher, assuming Burns can man the middle. It's going to be interesting to see how he integrates Burns if he actually can play this season. exactly... i see Seymour with this lineup in place of Fisher. Let Burns handle business down low and kick out to open 3pt shooters.
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 26, 2018 12:38:14 GMT -5
Unless JC greatly changes his philosophy, I wouldn't expect this lineup. Not enough 3 point shooters in there. Might work with Seymour or Degnan in place of Fisher, assuming Burns can man the middle. It's going to be interesting to see how he integrates Burns if he actually can play this season. exactly... i see Seymour with this lineup in place of Fisher. Let Burns handle business down low and kick out to open 3pt shooters. Don’t think so, (Evans been playing well). Plus you let a guy like Seymour a one trick pony who doesn’t play defense, doesn’t rebound and is a streaky shooter get run. Degnan is a much better defender, rebounds and at least based on a relatively small sample size is shooting the same. Where’s the upside going with Seymour? Let’s see if JC continues with the we’ll make it fit style. If he continues down this path you’ll most likely see Pickett Camper Degnan Fisher Burns. I’m betting Seymour losses the start. As the game goes on the hot shooter of 2 gets a bit more run. They’ve been logging equal minutes. IMO Seymour is a frosh and raw, he’ll get better with time and settle into a role. I still like going smaller and faster/althletic with Smithen. Better shot at true Mayhem with this lineup. It’s not like we’re killing it from 3 anyway. I’d at least give this rotation some run and see if it has merit. This is the year to experiment. Be interesting to see where this goes.
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Post by rickyp on Nov 26, 2018 14:33:06 GMT -5
Smithen doesn't fit this offense that's why he's not playing a lot.Don't understand why he came back with this system.He's a attacking guard not what this offense is designed to do.He's a fifth year senior who couldn't beat out a true freshman for the starting job.That tells you what you needed to know.Pickett is doing a great job at the PG.You would have thought him and Smithen together in the backcourt Manny at the 3 Seymour at the 4 Fisher at the 5.But with the offense dependent on three point shooting it doesn't work.I personally think he could have adjusted his offense toward what he has on the roster. I understand coaches want to implement there system but you can't put a square in a circle.JMO With the zone defense he runs having Smithen Pickett and Manny in the zone that's good length and athleticism enough to get rebounding in that zone.But that's just my personal opinion.
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 26, 2018 14:45:04 GMT -5
exactly... i see Seymour with this lineup in place of Fisher. Let Burns handle business down low and kick out to open 3pt shooters. Don’t think so, (Evans been playing well). Plus you let a guy like Seymour a one trick pony who doesn’t play defense, doesn’t rebound and is a streaky shooter get run. Degnan is a much better defender, rebounds and at least based on a relatively small sample size is shooting the same. Where’s the upside going with Seymour? If anything you’ll see Pickett Camper Degnan Fisher Burns. I’m betting Seymour losses the start. As the game goes on the hot shooter of 2 gets a bit more run. They’ve been logging equal minutes. IMO Seymour is a frosh and raw, he’ll get better with time and settle into a role. I still like going smaller and faster/althletic with Smithen. Be interesting to see where this goes. Fisher has been poor at best on defense, he holds the ball too long on offense. With over 29 mins a game he should be damn close to 10 boards a game. He is extremely slow. If Burns is better in the post than Fisher... this is an easy upgrade with the roster i stated.
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 26, 2018 14:51:04 GMT -5
Don’t think so, (Evans been playing well). Plus you let a guy like Seymour a one trick pony who doesn’t play defense, doesn’t rebound and is a streaky shooter get run. Degnan is a much better defender, rebounds and at least based on a relatively small sample size is shooting the same. Where’s the upside going with Seymour? If anything you’ll see Pickett Camper Degnan Fisher Burns. I’m betting Seymour losses the start. As the game goes on the hot shooter of 2 gets a bit more run. They’ve been logging equal minutes. IMO Seymour is a frosh and raw, he’ll get better with time and settle into a role. I still like going smaller and faster/althletic with Smithen. Be interesting to see where this goes. Fisher has been poor at best on defense, he holds the ball too long on offense. With over 29 mins a game he should be damn close to 10 boards a game. He is extremely slow. If Burns is better in the post than Fisher... this is an easy upgrade with the roster i stated. I’ve been critical of Evan in the past but this is not the year to do so, is he perfect no, but moving him to the paint improved his game 10 fold.
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Post by indian82 on Nov 26, 2018 15:03:52 GMT -5
Fisher has been poor at best on defense, he holds the ball too long on offense. With over 29 mins a game he should be damn close to 10 boards a game. He is extremely slow. If Burns is better in the post than Fisher... this is an easy upgrade with the roster i stated. I’ve been critical of Evan in the past but this is not the year to do so, is he perfect no, but moving him to the paint improved his game 10 fold. I agree. He’s improved and with Burns in the paint with him, I can see them playing off each other, passing to each other. Hopefully, Fisher can get free if Burns gets doubled. Gives us 2 experienced guys down low.
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