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Post by sky on Nov 9, 2017 14:44:38 GMT -5
I am the same way, IndianSaint. Common sense tells me, for example, that Ben McAdoo doesn't have what it takes to be successful coaching the football Giants, but my love for the Giants makes me think maybe they knew what they were doing when they hired him, and that maybe this season is an abberation. My love for the Giants makes me think they might be firing the next Bellichek without giving him a proper chance when this season is over. Common sense, of course, says fire him. However, Jimmy has had more time than McAdoo, and results usually speak for themselves. Common sense, again says his time should be up. But because of my love for Siena, I will always root for my alma mater, hoping the haters are wrong, hoping Jimmy starts nailing down great recruits, and coaching up the current players, rather than hoping he loses recruiting battles and games so the school can move on from him. So I look at the new season with some optimism, knowing that there will be bumps along the way...maybe many bumps, but hoping that our players and coaching staff learn from those bumps. Go Saints!!! I have never seen a single post where someone says they hope we don't do well so we will get a new coach..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 15:07:06 GMT -5
I am the same way, IndianSaint. Common sense tells me, for example, that Ben McAdoo doesn't have what it takes to be successful coaching the football Giants, but my love for the Giants makes me think maybe they knew what they were doing when they hired him, and that maybe this season is an abberation. My love for the Giants makes me think they might be firing the next Bellichek without giving him a proper chance when this season is over. Common sense, of course, says fire him. However, Jimmy has had more time than McAdoo, and results usually speak for themselves. Common sense, again says his time should be up. But because of my love for Siena, I will always root for my alma mater, hoping the haters are wrong, hoping Jimmy starts nailing down great recruits, and coaching up the current players, rather than hoping he loses recruiting battles and games so the school can move on from him. So I look at the new season with some optimism, knowing that there will be bumps along the way...maybe many bumps, but hoping that our players and coaching staff learn from those bumps. Go Saints!!! I have never seen a single post where someone says they hope we don't do well so we will get a new coach.. That's just the typical response from those smitten with JP when they have no real solid comeback to a critique! It's one step farther down the scale from calling the critic a 'hater'! Like JP, they have no valid answer re how to correct the deficiency.....so they just live with it.... the never ending path to a new normal
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Post by sky on Nov 9, 2017 15:20:01 GMT -5
I have never seen a single post where someone says they hope we don't do well so we will get a new coach.. That's just the typical response from those smitten with JP when they have no real solid comeback to a critique! It's one step farther down the scale from calling the critic a 'hater'! Like JP, they have no valid answer re how to correct the deficiency.....so they just live with it.... the never ending path to a new normal Woah..MP...maybe my words were wrong...but what I was trying to say is that I'm tired of being called a hater and that I want us to lose so we can get rid of JP...if JP manned up and did the job he was hired to do I would be happy...til then it would be best is all he did was handicap the ponies
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 16:17:11 GMT -5
That's just the typical response from those smitten with JP when they have no real solid comeback to a critique! It's one step farther down the scale from calling the critic a 'hater'! Like JP, they have no valid answer re how to correct the deficiency.....so they just live with it.... the never ending path to a new normal Woah..MP...maybe my words were wrong...but what I was trying to say is that I'm tired of being called a hater and that I want us to lose so we can get rid of JP...if JP manned up and did the job he was hired to do I would be happy...til then it would be best is all he did was handicap the ponies No, your words were fine - I was just agreeing with you and amplifying your post - I'm tired of it too, it's their never ending refrain.
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Post by gorvy on Nov 9, 2017 18:27:09 GMT -5
Woah..MP...maybe my words were wrong...but what I was trying to say is that I'm tired of being called a hater and that I want us to lose so we can get rid of JP...if JP manned up and did the job he was hired to do I would be happy...til then it would be best is all he did was handicap the ponies No, your words were fine - I was just agreeing with you and amplifying your post - I'm tired of it too, it's their never ending refrain. Exactly. The bottom line is most of these so called patsos lovers are secretly rooting for him to leave so Siena basketball can hope to become fun again.
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Post by texasjack on Nov 9, 2017 19:39:59 GMT -5
Remember when this used to be a recruiting thread?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 1:21:44 GMT -5
Coach recruitment.......
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Post by Tony on Nov 10, 2017 6:02:37 GMT -5
Moved some of these posts from recruiting thread to keep 2018 recruiting thread on topic. Any coach will tell you recruiting is lifeblood of any program. It can't be an afterthought. Every successful coach at Siena has mentioned recruiting is a year round job. Probably a big reason why they were successful
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Post by SIENA1971 on Nov 10, 2017 8:12:41 GMT -5
Moved some of these posts from recruiting thread to keep 2018 recruiting thread on topic. Any coach will tell you recruiting is lifeblood of any program. It can't be an afterthought. Every successful coach at Siena has mentioned recruiting is a year round job. Probably a big reason why they were successful We're fortunate that Abe buys into this philosophy
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Post by Tony on Nov 10, 2017 8:21:19 GMT -5
Moved some of these posts from recruiting thread to keep 2018 recruiting thread on topic. Any coach will tell you recruiting is lifeblood of any program. It can't be an afterthought. Every successful coach at Siena has mentioned recruiting is a year round job. Probably a big reason why they were successful We're fortunate that Abe buys into this philosophy I have to agree on this- wish we had 3 Abe's on the staff, he is doing "bang up" job
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Post by IndianSaint on Nov 12, 2017 11:31:36 GMT -5
If you had a daughter and really loved here how would you feel if she came home with a real dud? I’d tell her how I feel and that I’m concerned. However, it’s her life and her decision. Parents can’t (can but really shouldn’t (just like people can commit crimes but maybe shouldn’t)) force daughters into or out of boyfriends/marriages. If they attempt that, they may lose their daughter for ever (daughter may not forgive father for not accepting their boyfriend/husband. If I were a father I’d be more worried if losing my daughter than gaining a dude boyfriend/husband. That’s just me. Let me ask you (more to my point): if someone was highly critical of your daughter (even if the criticism was factually correct) wouldn’t you get sick of it too?
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Post by sky on Nov 12, 2017 13:45:41 GMT -5
The players are my "daughter"...JP is the dud...i have never criticized the players...as a matter of fact I don't like all of the calling of Nico playing "hero ball"...how Nico or any other player plays is on the "dud"..
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Post by gorvy on Nov 12, 2017 15:30:47 GMT -5
The players are my "daughter"...JP is the dud...i have never criticized the players...as a matter of fact I don't like all of the calling of Nico playing "hero ball"...how Nico or any other player plays is on the "dud".. . Exactly, they are all just following the game plan.
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Post by IndianSaint on Nov 12, 2017 22:16:50 GMT -5
The players are my "daughter"...JP is the dud...i have never criticized the players...as a matter of fact I don't like all of the calling of Nico playing "hero ball"...how Nico or any other player plays is on the "dud".. I understood your analogy; and I said that the Siena Team (coaches, players & admin) are my family (daughters if you want to stecify a family member) and the critical fans (correct or not in their criticism) are the duds in my analogy (or basically the people criticizing my family members and trust me if they were criticizing your family members you’d get annoyed too). We can play this analogy game all year long. You don’t get my point because you fail to include the coach as part of the team/my family. If you did, you’d understand.
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Post by sky on Nov 13, 2017 5:40:46 GMT -5
I guess your right...i don't feel the coach is part of the family...just guest in my home...and should act accordingly...
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