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Post by OneIndian on Jan 14, 2017 14:23:06 GMT -5
I'm really thinking the next transfer should be Jimmy! This guy is a joke.
I'm just sick and tired of all the bullshit. We can't keep staff, he losses 50% of his recruits to transfer. That's a major red flag. How are you going to build a winning program when it's constantly in flux.
Time for Siena's administration to start reflecting on where this program is going. It's definitely not running how I would want a successful program run. In fact it's an embarrassment to the school.
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Post by great10110 on Jan 14, 2017 14:45:42 GMT -5
Not sure how he's not keeping staff. Lucious was a bust as an assistant coach and couldn't get anyone up on campus for any of his main recruits. He's too reserved to be able to recruit and coach at a high level and I don't think he's a gym rat which you need to be as a young assistant. Luke just didn't have the northeast contacts and jimmy and Greg have the Baltimore area covered. With Jordan and Abe being Midwest guys we are starting to widen our recruiting base as everyone wanted.
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Post by mjs72 on Jan 14, 2017 14:50:03 GMT -5
I'm really thinking the next transfer should be Jimmy! This guy is a joke. I'm just sick and tired of all the bullshit. We can't keep staff, he losses 50% of his recruits to transfer. That's a major red flag. How are you going to build a winning program when it's constantly in flux. Time for Siena's administration to start reflecting on where this program is going. It's surly not running how I would want a successful program run. In fact it's an embarrassment to the school. I would have to think if BSG and others are right and 2 or 3 more players transfer that Jimmy is done regardless of contract buyout. It would be a total rebuild situation anyway.
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 14, 2017 14:56:16 GMT -5
jimmy and Greg have the Baltimore area covered. Great that helped get us Fisher.
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Post by great10110 on Jan 14, 2017 15:11:09 GMT -5
As well as nico and lavon and marquis and all of be other Baltimore area guys
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 14, 2017 15:14:40 GMT -5
As well as nico and lavon and marquis and all of be other Baltimore area guys Long and Wright were Loyola recruits and followed Rex here to stay in the MAAC, Nico is as good as gone. Shivers Richards are role guys. Fisher is D2. The others bailed. So ya' Rex and all his B'more connections have been invaluable. What a joke. He needs to go.
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Post by bigsaintg on Jan 14, 2017 15:24:45 GMT -5
Not sure how he's not keeping staff. Lucious was a bust as an assistant coach and couldn't get anyone up on campus for any of his main recruits. He's too reserved to be able to recruit and coach at a high level and I don't think he's a gym rat which you need to be as a young assistant. Luke just didn't have the northeast contacts and jimmy and Greg have the Baltimore area covered. With Jordan and Abe being Midwest guys we are starting to widen our recruiting base as everyone wanted. Meanwhile we totally whiff on New York State, New England, Jersey, Philly etc. where we have had a traditional recruiting base
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Post by indian82 on Jan 14, 2017 15:36:11 GMT -5
Warning this post is complementary of St. Fran - read at your own peril: Hate to see such a talented kid go down the tubes. Many of our past recruits have come in with issues, both academic, work ethic and attitude. Most get corrected or minimized early on - that's what good coaches AND their staffs do to make sure the kids they give scholarships to work out for the betterment of their program and their jobs. I really believe Lavon, under Fran, would have been all MAAC by his second year - the kid is that talented and his issues were relatively minor and correctable by a good coach. Same for Nico. Cole might have survived - who knows? All I know is that our current HC appears woefully deficient in the area of student player development - low on the player side and non-existent on the student side. It's beyond time for him to go. Agree with everything here. I still wait to the end of the year re: the coach's fate, as if my opinion had any weight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 16:04:46 GMT -5
My favorite quote: Patsos was asked if Siena can win the MAAC title without Clareth, if he didn't return. "We've got four seniors and that's who's going to determine whether we win the MAAC title,'' Patsos said. "That's it." So much for his assessment of the collective worth of the bench - they do need a 5th player and if I'm Kadeem, I'm not crazy about that quote. John's comment re his eligibility - technically he's not declared ineligible until Tuesday when classes return and if there were any incomplete grades that declaration would not be made until Friday. Whatever the kid's issues are, I hope he uses the time to get them straightened out, rest the knee completely and support his former team from the cheap seats.
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Post by slim on Jan 14, 2017 16:07:09 GMT -5
This is very sad. These kids are spoon fed by their 'handlers" and are made to believe that they just have to excel at basketball and they will be off to the league. Education is a farce for some on the AAU belt, and they believe that college will be no different. A difficult life lesson ensues. I hope it works out wherever he lands and wish him well but am thinking it won't be back here with JP. AAU has ruined the college game Why?? I can prove & show million case that would say differently. Nico situation has nothing to do with AAU basketball.
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Post by great10110 on Jan 14, 2017 16:27:32 GMT -5
Not sure how he's not keeping staff. Lucious was a bust as an assistant coach and couldn't get anyone up on campus for any of his main recruits. He's too reserved to be able to recruit and coach at a high level and I don't think he's a gym rat which you need to be as a young assistant. Luke just didn't have the northeast contacts and jimmy and Greg have the Baltimore area covered. With Jordan and Abe being Midwest guys we are starting to widen our recruiting base as everyone wanted. Meanwhile we totally whiff on New York State, New England, Jersey, Philly etc. where we have had a traditional recruiting base I'm not saying that I agree with not recruiting the areas Siena had always recruited well. The difference is that the original staff had no real connections in those areas and everything was down south and he sold the ease of getting to Baltimore via Southwest as the way to get home and back quickly. Having the new DBO be a Philly/Jersey/Long Island guy, hopefully will help get us back into those areas.
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 14, 2017 16:30:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile we totally whiff on New York State, New England, Jersey, Philly etc. where we have had a traditional recruiting base I'm not saying that I agree with not recruiting the areas Siena had always recruited well. The difference is that the original staff had no real connections in those areas and everything was down south and he sold the ease of getting to Baltimore via Southwest as the way to get home and back quickly. Having the new DBO be a Philly/Jersey/Long Island guy, hopefully will help get us back into those areas. Who cares at this point, chances are whoever he recruits no matter where they are from over 50% of them will leave the program. UNACCEPTABLE!
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Post by greenblood on Jan 14, 2017 16:39:38 GMT -5
AAU has ruined the college game Why?? I can prove & show million case that would say differently. Nico situation has nothing to do with AAU basketball. With all due respect, Slim there are far more dishonest AAU 'handlers' than guys who truly care about the kid and his future. Someone shopped Nico out at the end of last season- there was too much smoke and chatter to deny it, are you saying it was only his family? Again, that is sad.
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Post by slim on Jan 14, 2017 16:51:15 GMT -5
Why?? I can prove & show million case that would say differently. Nico situation has nothing to do with AAU basketball. With all due respect, Slim there are far more dishonest AAU 'handlers' than guys who truly care about the kid and his future. Someone shopped Nico out at the end of last season- there was too much smoke and chatter to deny it, are you saying it was only his family? Again, that is sad. I have no clue. I'm just not sure why AAU always the scapegoat. AAU just like anything there's some good and some bad. Pretty sure most kids in the MAAC played AAU. I know most don't get there without the exposure, support, of AAU. More positive then negative with AAU. Negatives with AAU in my opinion is the lack of fundamentals being taught at the younger ages. College kids are young adults so some can handle the challenges some can't.
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Post by SaintsFan on Jan 14, 2017 18:12:24 GMT -5
Im lobbying to be on the selection committee. :-)
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