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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 11:26:29 GMT -5
Ted Cruz on Monday at Liberty University announced his candidacy for the Republican nomination for President in 2016. In that very same speech he stated, that if elected he would repeal "every word of the Affordable Care Act " aka Obamacare. No news there. He also announced his wife is taking a leave of absence from Goldman Sachs and would be losing her health care benefits! Ted Cruz on Tuesday gives an interview to Dana Bash on CNN and states the because his wife left her job he and his family are now without health care. Welcome to America Senator Cruz. He then states that he is going to get insurance through the Federal Exchange set up by the Affordable Care Act. He further states that it is one of the best parts of the law - the same law he vowed to repeal in its entirety the day before and for which neither he nor his party has a substitute! He said he is following the law - not true in any sense - the law states you must have insurance, it doesn't mandate how you get it. He could have gone on Cobra - big $'s or on the open market (which has always existed) at bigger $'s or his wife could have bought a medical insurance company with the coin she got from Goldman Sachs! Talk about Republican hypocrisy! Like I said, it can't get any better than this.........  |
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Post by DelmartianEd on Mar 25, 2015 12:17:57 GMT -5
Congress provides healthcare to its members, but a provision of the ACA says they need to buy it through an exchange. He's saying he agreed with the provision that Congress should be expected to use the program it created instead of having their own better plans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 12:36:50 GMT -5
Congress provides healthcare to its members, but a provision of the ACA says they need to buy it through an exchange. He's saying he agreed with the provision that Congress should be expected to use the program it created instead of having their own better plans. Nice try! He wasn't using the plan when his wife was working, their insurance came from her benefits - if those in Congress buy it through the exchange, they get a subsidy! Many have declined the subsidy. There is no requirement for members to buy it if they have or get insurance elsewhere. I am quite certain his wife's Goldman Sachs plan was much better and likely no cost! I am also quite sure he was shocked to see what us common folks would have to pay without Obamacare. |
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Post by DelmartianEd on Mar 25, 2015 14:51:44 GMT -5
Congress provides healthcare to its members, but a provision of the ACA says they need to buy it through an exchange. He's saying he agreed with the provision that Congress should be expected to use the program it created instead of having their own better plans. Nice try! He wasn't using the plan when his wife was working, their insurance came from her benefits - if those in Congress buy it through the exchange, they get a subsidy! Many have declined the subsidy. There is no requirement for members to buy it if they have or get insurance elsewhere. I am quite certain his wife's Goldman Sachs plan was much better and likely no cost! I am also quite sure he was shocked to see what us common folks would have to pay without Obamacare. It's not a "try." I don't support Cruz and this isn't a tactic to defend him. I'm just correcting the record. Is he taking the subsidy? I mean, since he's an employee of the federal government, that's a benefit he is entitled to receive. What would be proved by him declining the subsidy? |
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Post by gorvy on Mar 25, 2015 16:22:26 GMT -5
He read green eggs and ham while trying to block obamacare. This is ironic because green eggs and ham is about trying new things--- and perhaps liking them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 17:02:00 GMT -5
I'd vote for Steven Cruz.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 17:42:06 GMT -5
Nice try! He wasn't using the plan when his wife was working, their insurance came from her benefits - if those in Congress buy it through the exchange, they get a subsidy! Many have declined the subsidy. There is no requirement for members to buy it if they have or get insurance elsewhere. I am quite certain his wife's Goldman Sachs plan was much better and likely no cost! I am also quite sure he was shocked to see what us common folks would have to pay without Obamacare. It's not a "try." I don't support Cruz and this isn't a tactic to defend him. I'm just correcting the record. Is he taking the subsidy? I mean, since he's an employee of the federal government, that's a benefit he is entitled to receive. What would be proved by him declining the subsidy? Well, your correction needed correction. He said he's declining the subsidy as many in the Congress have. I guess that's a plus - but did you even see the duplicity in his comments at Liberty the day before? He got surprised by a very bright reporter and he'll be backpedalling big time. Sort of like a new "I voted against it before I voted for it" or vice versa as in "I hated it until I needed it". The guy scares me. |
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 25, 2015 17:51:29 GMT -5
Ted Cruz on Monday at Liberty University announced his candidacy for the Republican nomination for President in 2016. In that very same speech he stated, that if elected he would repeal "every word of the Affordable Care Act " aka Obamacare. No news there. He also announced his wife is taking a leave of absence from Goldman Sachs and would be losing her health care benefits! Ted Cruz on Tuesday gives an interview to Dana Bash on CNN and states the because his wife left her job he and his family are now without health care. Welcome to America Senator Cruz. He then states that he is going to get insurance through the Federal Exchange set up by the Affordable Care Act. He further states that it is one of the best parts of the law - the same law he vowed to repeal in its entirety the day before and for which neither he nor his party has a substitute! He said he is following the law - not true in any sense - the law states you must have insurance, it doesn't mandate how you get it. He could have gone on Cobra - big $'s or on the open market (which has always existed) at bigger $'s or his wife could have bought a medical insurance company with the coin she got from Goldman Sachs! Talk about Republican hypocrisy! Like I said, it can't get any better than this......... He would need the approval of both the house and senate. If he gets that, then he can repeal it. It's how laws get passed and it's how they get repealed. Fair and square. I think the law probably needs a lot of bipartisan tweeking, this may be his way of negotiating, posturing is part of the process as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 18:18:21 GMT -5
Ted Cruz on Monday at Liberty University announced his candidacy for the Republican nomination for President in 2016. In that very same speech he stated, that if elected he would repeal "every word of the Affordable Care Act " aka Obamacare. No news there. He also announced his wife is taking a leave of absence from Goldman Sachs and would be losing her health care benefits! Ted Cruz on Tuesday gives an interview to Dana Bash on CNN and states the because his wife left her job he and his family are now without health care. Welcome to America Senator Cruz. He then states that he is going to get insurance through the Federal Exchange set up by the Affordable Care Act. He further states that it is one of the best parts of the law - the same law he vowed to repeal in its entirety the day before and for which neither he nor his party has a substitute! He said he is following the law - not true in any sense - the law states you must have insurance, it doesn't mandate how you get it. He could have gone on Cobra - big $'s or on the open market (which has always existed) at bigger $'s or his wife could have bought a medical insurance company with the coin she got from Goldman Sachs! Talk about Republican hypocrisy! Like I said, it can't get any better than this......... He would need the approval of both the house and senate. If he gets that, then he can repeal it. It's how laws get passed and it's how they get repealed. Fair and square. I think the law probably needs a lot of bipartisan tweeking, this may be his way of negotiating, posturing is part of the process as well. Thanks for the civics 101 lesson CR. FYI, the Republican House has voted 30 or more times to repeal and it has been approved by the Republican majority each time. Hasn't been brought to the floor of the Senate for obvious reasons but it would be defeated as 60 votes (not 51) are needed (60 are needed to suppress a filibuster). Now that the Republicans have the majority in the Senate (more than 50 seats) they can change the rules (yes,it's a Senate rule and not a Constitutional provision) and reset it to 51 for passage. Obviously with Obama in office even a House/Senate passed bill would be vetoed. With a Republican holding the Presidency, it would get repealed and 16 million Americans would LOSE their health care. Of course, Cruz, as President (God my a-hole quivers thinking that would ever even be a possibility) would ensure repeal and he'd be back on the Government's free insurance ticket. |
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 25, 2015 18:25:54 GMT -5
Is their one republican that you could vote for without any trepidation?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 18:32:00 GMT -5
Rand Paul, Scott Walker and, I hope you are sitting down, Chris Christie. Carly Fiorina has some interesting views but I don't see a Fiorina-Clinton woman on woman pairing. Marco Rubio might actually take some steps to solve the immigration issue. Is your breathing/heart rate back in a normal range yet? Of course my "without trepidation" vote would depend on platform and who the Democrats actually nominate. Clinton would get my vote today but a lot of water (global warming) will paas under the dam between now and the conventions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 18:55:08 GMT -5
Someone please call 911 for CellarRat, I think I induced a massive coronary when I named several Republicans that I like! It may be too late - God, I hope not. 911 baby, 911...
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 25, 2015 19:00:42 GMT -5
Someone please call 911 for CellarRat, I think I induced a massive coronary when I named several Republicans that I like! It may be too late - God, I hope not. 911 baby, 911... I am a Rand Paul fan and Rubio as well. But I would be happy with most of the republicans you mentioned. The fact that you could support republicans like that and support a extreme left wing president like obama is puzzling. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 19:08:35 GMT -5
Someone please call 911 for CellarRat, I think I induced a massive coronary when I named several Republicans that I like! It may be too late - God, I hope not. 911 baby, 911... I am a Rand Paul fan and Rubio as well. But I would be happy with most of the republicans you mentioned. The fact that you could support republicans like that and support a extreme left wing president like obama is puzzling. /quote] Simple, I don't see Clinton as "extreme left wing" at all - that's just a right wing mischaracterization to appease their base and win a few votes from the uninformed voters which we are "blessed" with. For me it's a balance of common sense and compassion and I see both in a lot of candidates to differing degrees. |
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Post by IndianSaint on Mar 26, 2015 20:33:35 GMT -5
Rand Paul, Scott Walker and, I hope you are sitting down, Chris Christie. Carly Fiorina ... . but I don't see a Fiorina-Clinton woman on woman pairing. I could visualize that woman on woman pairing, just not in politics.  |
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