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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 11:54:17 GMT -5
The bill that California is implementing (the first state to do so) is the result of a federal law (Campus Accountability and Safety Act) that passed both houses of Congress (pun not intended) with bipartisan support. It is not liberal craziness, rather an attempt to clearly define what is or is not considered rape, a major problem on college campuses. The Senate bill in California also passed with bipartisan support - or as the Rat would say it, 'The bill had some conservative craziness elements in it as well!!!!"  |
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Post by CellarRat on Aug 13, 2014 12:07:08 GMT -5
The bill that California is implementing (the first state to do so) is the result of a federal law (Campus Accountability and Safety Act) that passed both houses of Congress (pun not intended) with bipartisan support. It is not liberal craziness, rather an attempt to clearly define what is or is not considered rape, a major problem on college campuses. The Senate bill in California also passed with bipartisan support - or as the Rat would say it, 'The bill had some conservative craziness elements in it as well!!!!" I would bet that more republicans opposed this law than supported it. But that really doesn't matter. The bill is liberal in the sense that it encourages more government involvement. Proof is that MP obviously likes it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:07:59 GMT -5
The bill that California is implementing (the first state to do so) is the result of a federal law (Campus Accountability and Safety Act) that passed both houses of Congress (pun not intended) with bipartisan support. It is not liberal craziness, rather an attempt to clearly define what is or is not considered rape, a major problem on college campuses. The Senate bill in California also passed with bipartisan support - or as the Rat would say it, 'The bill had some conservative craziness elements in it as well!!!!" I would bet that more republicans opposed this law than supported it. But that really doesn't matter. The bill is liberal in the sense that it encourages more government involvement. Proof is that MP obviously likes it. Actually, I have no feelings about the law one way or the other - I have no plans that would involve rape either on or off campus! The law costs nothing and if it helps give a raper a few months with Bubba and his friends I would think it was a good law. Since you obviously have strong feelings about it, I can't make any judgments re your future plans or how the law might have an impact on you. |
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Post by indian82 on Aug 13, 2014 17:20:23 GMT -5
The bill that California is implementing (the first state to do so) is the result of a federal law (Campus Accountability and Safety Act) that passed both houses of Congress (pun not intended) with bipartisan support. It is not liberal craziness, rather an attempt to clearly define what is or is not considered rape, a major problem on college campuses. The Senate bill in California also passed with bipartisan support - or as the Rat would say it, 'The bill had some conservative craziness elements in it as well!!!!" I would bet that more republicans opposed this law than supported it. But that really doesn't matter. The bill is liberal in the sense that it encourages more government involvement. Proof is that MP obviously likes it. A couple things on this. First, unless MP can show me otherwise, it doesn't appear to be a law yet. But second it is a bill that has an equal number of Republican sponsors as Democrat (see co-sponsor tab in attached link). It clearly appears to be a bi-partisan effort. beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2692 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 18:24:16 GMT -5
I82 is correct - the bill is not yet law, my bad! It is, as I82, mentioned a bipartisan effort, and NOT a crazy liberal law. I misinterpreted the article I read on California's actions relative to it and assumed (a bad thing) it was already US law. Thanks for catching that, I82.
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Post by indian82 on Aug 13, 2014 18:30:44 GMT -5
I82 is correct - the bill is not yet law, my bad! It is, as I82, mentioned a bipartisan effort, and NOT a crazy liberal law. I misinterpreted the article I read on California's actions relative to it and assumed (a bad thing) it was already US law. Thanks for catching that, I82. No problem. But you know this congenial interaction between us just demonized me even more as that 'damn milquetoast moderate who has to go and actually learn about things.'  |
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Post by CellarRat on Aug 13, 2014 20:02:07 GMT -5
I82 is correct - the bill is not yet law, my bad! It is, as I82, mentioned a bipartisan effort, and NOT a crazy liberal law. I misinterpreted the article I read on California's actions relative to it and assumed (a bad thing) it was already US law. Thanks for catching that, I82. No problem. But you know this congenial interaction between us just demonized me even more as that 'damn milquetoast moderate who has to go and actually learn about things.' You will not be demonized by anyone but loved by all. That's the point isn't it? The article I referred to was a law proposed in the state of California modeled after the federal bill. I can't say I read the fed bill, but the California bill according to the article seems ridiculous and overreaching. As far as you and MP, you should get a room and he can teach you how to be an out of the closet liberal. |
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Post by CellarRat on Aug 13, 2014 20:06:58 GMT -5
I would bet that more republicans opposed this law than supported it. But that really doesn't matter. The bill is liberal in the sense that it encourages more government involvement. Proof is that MP obviously likes it. Actually, I have no feelings about the law one way or the other - I have no plans that would involve rape either on or off campus! The law costs nothing and if it helps give a raper a few months with Bubba and his friends I would think it was a good law. Since you obviously have strong feelings about it, I can't make any judgments re your future plans or how the law might have an impact on you. This is something a child would say. I suppose you support "stop and frisk" since you don't plan on commiting any crimes! Another law that I did not support (supported by republicans) because it unnecessarily infringes on a person's liberties. Your argument is moronic. |
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Post by indian82 on Aug 13, 2014 20:17:59 GMT -5
No problem. But you know this congenial interaction between us just demonized me even more as that 'damn milquetoast moderate who has to go and actually learn about things.' You will not be demonized by anyone but loved by all. That's the point isn't it? The article I referred to was a law proposed in the state of California modeled after the federal bill. I can't say I read the fed bill, but the California bill according to the article seems ridiculous and overreaching. As far as you and MP, you should get a room and he can teach you how to be an out of the closet liberal. No, the point is not to be loved by all. More likely, it's hated by all, but the point is I try to be objective and informed. Yet you try to label the law and attach it to liberals. I think Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham would disagree. But I'm sure you'll denounce them as traitors. |
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Post by CellarRat on Aug 14, 2014 2:57:14 GMT -5
You will not be demonized by anyone but loved by all. That's the point isn't it? The article I referred to was a law proposed in the state of California modeled after the federal bill. I can't say I read the fed bill, but the California bill according to the article seems ridiculous and overreaching. As far as you and MP, you should get a room and he can teach you how to be an out of the closet liberal. No, the point is not to be loved by all. More likely, it's hated by all, but the point is I try to be objective and informed. Yet you try to label the law and attach it to liberals. I think Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham would disagree. But I'm sure you'll denounce them as traitors. Again, I'm speaking of the law in California not the federal bill. I don't know if I would support that bill because I haven't read anything about it. I haven't read much on the California bill except three articles one of which I posted here. My opinion is limited to what I've read. You sound just like MP changing and creating an argument just to oppose something I've written and then you call yourself objective. I have said repeatedly I do not support any particular political party. |
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