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Post by CellarRat on Jul 24, 2014 15:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by psycholojets on Jul 24, 2014 23:47:20 GMT -5
I guess he also would not play the role of an animated truck, jet, lion, monkey or bear. He would not portray a woman, paraplegic or world series champion since he is none of them either.
He could play a small minded twit who let his ignorance get in the way of his career.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 6:18:29 GMT -5
I guess he also would not play the role of an animated truck, jet, lion, monkey or bear. He would not portray a woman, paraplegic or world series champion since he is none of them either. He could play a small minded twit who let his ignorance get in the way of his career. Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards Can't believe that CellarRat had a career...............  |
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Post by CellarRat on Jul 25, 2014 15:05:31 GMT -5
I guess he also would not play the role of an animated truck, jet, lion, monkey or bear. He would not portray a woman, paraplegic or world series champion since he is none of them either. He could play a small minded twit who let his ignorance get in the way of his career. Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards You are so intolerant, most of you libs don't get how ignorant you sound. He is obviously a religious gentleman who can't zealously play the part, so he chose not to. It's that simple and you still can't follow along. You understand he may be required to kiss another man and be involved in intimate scenes that may make him uncomfortable and conflicted given his religious beliefs? |
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Post by CellarRat on Jul 25, 2014 15:17:35 GMT -5
I guess he also would not play the role of an animated truck, jet, lion, monkey or bear. He would not portray a woman, paraplegic or world series champion since he is none of them either. He could play a small minded twit who let his ignorance get in the way of his career. Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards Can't believe that CellarRat had a career............... Thankfully I'm blessed with a beautiful family and a healthy career that I have worked very hard for. Hopefully my family continues to be blessed as I hope yours is. |
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Post by psycholojets on Jul 26, 2014 13:11:31 GMT -5
CR,
I wish you only the best in life but I do find it interesting that you hold some folks who stand up for their principles as laudatory and praiseworthy and others as clowns worthy of ridicule. As near as I can discern the primary basis for differentiating between those held up and those shot down are their political leanings. If I came off as arrogant that is why.
Thankfully, I remain a hard working, healthy guy who has been blessed with a beautiful family as well. To me that is what is most important in life. While we would definitely disagree on a lot of things I know that on this and many other basic things we are in total agreement. Be well! And of course
GO SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by th24 on Jul 26, 2014 17:23:34 GMT -5
As a Catholic, I was raised to be a social conservative. And I will always stand up for those principles if I'm pushed into a debate with someone! However..in our liberal world I usually have to keep my mouth shut! This is especially true when I'm out in public, work or even on social media!
This is problem also for GOP and Catholic Church going forward too! Even the most conservative of polls show that most young people ( between the ages of 15-35 ) are socially liberal! And they will not stand for someone who not tolerant of gays! We might like like it! But ..it is what it is!
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Post by MTS on Jul 26, 2014 19:09:43 GMT -5
Like it or not the GOP has to "evolve" on social issues if it is going to be successful going forward. You can't alienate large numbers of people and expect to win elections (and thus be able to govern).
I am a Catholic too. I abhor abortion but it is never going to be outlawed. GOP should use the platform that Bill Clinton had back in the '90 "safe, rare and legal". Forget legislating it out - win hearts and minds and change people's opinions on reducing the number of abortions.
Of course the democratic party has been hijacked by the far left. This is not the party of Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy anymore. It's not even the party of Bill Clinton. The republican party with more moderation could crush a democratic party who has sold its soul to the extremes.
As far as the gay rights situation goes - who really cares if Larry and Barry want to get married? We all know someone who is gay. Just let people have their happiness. The church should not be forced to perform any ceremony they don't want to but the state should not interfere with any two people getting married. If the GOP ditches the social issues and move to the center - they will win the election in 2016 and perhaps easily.
I want small government in ALL facets of society. Who wants the government telling you who you can marry or how big your soda can be or you have to have health insurance or you'll be taxed. It's time to adapt to a libertarian philosophy. We're not going to run your lives. There is help for people who truly need it via private charity. What consenting adults do (as long as it is not hurting others) is between them and God.
Just live and let live.
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Post by CellarRat on Jul 26, 2014 20:49:29 GMT -5
I don't think anyone, especially someone who has strong libertarian beliefs like myself would ever care about someone's sexual orientation.
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Even when it comes to abortion, I'm personally against it but it's legal for folks to do it, so be it. I'm also against the death penalty, the state should not have the power of execution.
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It's amazing how republicans love capital punishment but cry foul about abortion. Consistency dictates that you oppose both especially on a religious basis. If I wasn't on an iPhone I would be a little more thorough with my posts but I think I made my point.
Inconsistencies with republican and democrat platforms is why I don't belong in either party.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 6:17:58 GMT -5
It is very clear that the Republican Party has been hijacked by the Tea Party - incumbent Republican plans to run for reelection are being held hostage by a threat to force a primary if the incumbent (non-Tea drinker) does not take, brew and drink the tea.
I do not think the Democratic Party has been hijacked by anyone - I believe the extremes of the current right only amplify the differences (social vs corporate) between the parties. There is no element in the Democratic Party that behaves like or resembles the tea drinkers.
I believe that a woman's body is her own and if she opts for abortion, it is not up to me or anyone to deny her that right. There are many things in my Catholic Faith that I accept but do not impose on others of different or no religious affiliation.
I do see a difference between abortion and the death penalty - the unborn child has harmed no one and has not broken any societal rules. The criminal who wins a death penalty for him/herself has earned that fate. I don't see it as a deterent but it does save some money and removes a potential down the road threat.
Since JFK was highlighted above, I will share an observation made during a watching of the CNN series on the Sixties - the episode on the space race. At the time, the US was deeply engrossed in the cold war with the USSR and strong negative relations existed between the two global powers. The USSR scored three space related firsts - first satellite, first man-in-space, and the first space walk. JFK sent a message to Krushchev congratulating him on their achievements! There was no anti-JFK reaction from the Republican party. How things have changed - Obama shakes hands with an Arab or bows to the Queen and gets crucified! Krushchev actually helped the US by his, likely unintended, initiation of the space race. The $'s spent by the Government under Democratic control were certainly well spent, leading to so much technology that we take for granted today - and people were working.
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Post by CellarRat on Jul 27, 2014 7:34:24 GMT -5
JFK in today's world would be a right winger. You can have Teddy's legacy he is all democrat.
What party platform makes the tea party extreme? The nuts on the left far outnumber the ones on the right. Not even close.
As far as the Democratic Party not being hijacked, they haven't, they have be transformed into a socialist party. We now have the most left president in the history of this country. Hopefully we can change our course back to sanity during the next administration.
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Post by SaintsFan on Jul 27, 2014 8:36:29 GMT -5
JFK in today's world would be a right winger. You can have Teddy's legacy he is all democrat. What party platform makes the tea party extreme? The nuts on the left far outnumber the ones on the right. Not even close. As far as the Democratic Party not being hijacked, they haven't, they have be transformed into a socialist party. We now have the most left president in the history of this country. Hopefully we can change our course back to sanity during the next administration. Every time I read your posts I see you are blinded into conservatives are right about each and every subject and those considered liberals are wrong about each and every subject. It is why I can't read anything you say without picturing someone like Rove with his arm elbow deep in your ass making your mouth move. I honestly can't see any discussion with you being worth any amount of effort. You've been brainwashed and appear to have no opinion of your own. Me personally, I find both sides to be severely lacking in many areas. I find people with your sort of "opinion" to be counter productive to any progress. I really don't know why misspractice bothers. It simply isn't worth any effort. Might as well stick to basketball discussions |
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Post by CellarRat on Jul 27, 2014 17:24:37 GMT -5
I feel the same about your posts, it's laughable that you say that about my posts. If you did read my posts you would have learned that I do not belong to either dem or rep party. I am a true independent. You don't like my posts because I don't care for our current president. That's fine you are entitled to your bias, but let's keep it real. But thanks for the laugh.
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Post by th24 on Jul 27, 2014 17:54:21 GMT -5
Check out some of the quotes from JFK and you tell me if you notice any changes in rhetoric:
“I don’t believe in big government”—Kennedy-Nixon Presidential Debate, 1960
“I believe in the balanced budget”—Kennedy-Nixon Presidential Debate, 1960
Would you ever hear those words come out of the mouth of Obama? Pelosi? Biden? Wasserman-Schultz?
Think of the struggle between the two ideology's as a tug of war. We are a center-right country so the ribbon on the rope would start at just “right of the center”. The rope has been pulled so far to the left that the ribbon sits almost atop the people pulling on the left (Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz). In order to for this nation to settle back where it belongs it requires an extremely hard pull to the right so the ribbon goes back to it’s original place of right of center. If we don’t pull hard enough it will settle left of center and to the left that will mean progress. Doesn’t that make some sort of sense?
Why is it that the Democratic Party of today wants the Republican Party to “moderate” its stance? Today, Republicans need to call upon disenfranchised Democrats asking them to moderate their stance by electing more “left of center” people instead of the “leftists” they have today. The problem is that today’s party of Obama, Pelosi and Reid control the campaign cash and this is NOT your father’s Democratic Party of JFK.
There are plenty of things that JFK and Obama agree on, most notably their positions on Medicare and Social Security. Both of these programs, as we know, are bankrupting this nation. In my opinion, JFK would have made some major changes to these programs to save them. Obama and the left have no such interest.
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