Flight 370

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Shocked that there is no conservative outcry that no one has made the almost certain "Terrorist" call on the missing Malaysian Flight 370. Guess there aren't any US elections on the near horizon.

Let's compare it with Benghazi

Benghazi
Almost simultaneous violent Islamic protests across the Middle East including the Consulate in Benghazi
Initial evaluation of cause suggests links to the anit-Islamic video that sparked the other protests
Immediate conservative outcry that failure to quickly label attack as a "Terrorist" attack

Malaysian Flight 370
Shortly after takeoff from a known terrorist friendly place it goes completely silent - all transponders turned off, no radio transmissions indicating any problems
Shortly after going completely silent it executes a 135 (estimate) turn to the west
Examination of the passenger list reveals two young Iranian's with one way tickets and forged passports on board
Plane continues level flight for at least 5 hours (only signals come from automatic engine status transmitting system which is difficult to silence)
7 days later the discussions are still mainly about mechanical or electrical systems failures which experts decry as extremely unlikely

This one certainly smells like "Terrorist" - shouldn't we be hearing crys for Kerry to step down, Hagel to step down, Obama to come clean. Odd!





I guess labeling isn't that important unless you can make a political issue out of it.

[indian82]

Totally different situation in Benghazi. My main issue there is that, regardless of why it was happening, we had diplomats that we put there and are responsible for and we did little to nothing to help them. This while we had jets & staff not far away. Not going to get in to the 'Stand Down' debate but we certainly did not 'Stand Up'.

[CellarRat]

Maybe it is terrorism after all. Time will tell.

[nolesaint]

Missy, Missy, Missy........

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Mar 14, 2014 5:50:07 GMT -5 @misspractice said:

Shocked that there is no conservative outcry that no one has made the almost certain "Terrorist" call on the missing Malaysian Flight 370. Guess there aren't any US elections on the near horizon.

Let's compare it with Benghazi

Benghazi
Almost simultaneous violent Islamic protests across the Middle East including the Consulate in Benghazi
Initial evaluation of cause suggests links to the anit-Islamic video that sparked the other protests
Immediate conservative outcry that failure to quickly label attack as a "Terrorist" attack

Malaysian Flight 370
Shortly after takeoff from a known terrorist friendly place it goes completely silent - all transponders turned off, no radio transmissions indicating any problems
Shortly after going completely silent it executes a 135 (estimate) turn to the west
Examination of the passenger list reveals two young Iranian's with one way tickets and forged passports on board
Plane continues level flight for at least 5 hours (only signals come from automatic engine status transmitting system which is difficult to silence)
7 days later the discussions are still mainly about mechanical or electrical systems failures which experts decry as extremely unlikely

This one certainly smells like "Terrorist" - shouldn't we be hearing crys for Kerry to step down, Hagel to step down, Obama to come clean. Odd!





I guess labeling isn't that important unless you can make a political issue out of it.

Once again, bedtime?

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Mar 15, 2014 8:40:48 GMT -5 nolesaint said:

Missy, Missy, Missy........

Yesssy, Yesssy, Yesssy,.......

[th24]

Benghazi ?! This has nothing to do with Republicans, Democrats or Benghazi ! Terrorists were always looking to strike again! And they found a great opportunity and took advantage of it!  It was going to happen again ...it was just a matter of time.
I just hope they find the jet before something worse happens! I personally believe that the jet is going to be found in terrorist strong hold!!

www.nbcnews.com/watch/nightly-news/deliberate-disappearance-plane-investigators-examine-all-possibilities-195449411523

Better link!

video.foxnews.com/v/3341127350001/why-hijacking-may-be-a-real-possibility-in-flight-370-probe-/#sp=show-clips

[nolesaint]

th24 - if it was taken by terrorist, I hope you are right that they find it "in terrorist strong hold!!" rather than just before it detonates over Tokyo, Hong Kong, Melbourne, Sydney, etc....

[th24]

That jet can fly for 8 hrs!

 Nightmare scenario!  

1. They land it-

2. Hide it in huge cave or hanger

2. They re-refuel it

3. Load it with ton of explosives

4. They hit Rome, Paris, London, Madrid or Jerusalem

- These terrorists are very cunning, intelligent and willing to wait to make their next move!  

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Mar 15, 2014 13:11:32 GMT -5 th24 said:

That jet can fly for 8 hrs!

 Nightmare scenario!  

1. They land it-

2. Hide it in huge cave or hanger

2. They re-refuel it

3. Load it with ton of explosives

4. They hit Rome, Paris, London, Madrid or Jerusalem

- These terrorists are very cunning, intelligent and willing to wait to make their next move!  

Let's not forget the poor souls that were on that flight that could be alive and held as hostages or human shields. The plane, God forbid, could also be used as a dirty bomb with radiological junk or biological crap. I hope if we ever find it on the ground we destroy it immediately and not wring our hands about innocents that might be collateral to its destruction.

[gorvy]

I don't want to get in on the political side of this but I had this theory from day one unfortunately. I am cynical by nature so I still hope I am wrong--- even though the "best" scenario is 239 lives lost.

[indian82]

Mar 15, 2014 13:32:42 GMT -5 @misspractice said:

Mar 15, 2014 13:11:32 GMT -5 th24 said:

That jet can fly for 8 hrs!

 Nightmare scenario!  

1. They land it-

2. Hide it in huge cave or hanger

2. They re-refuel it

3. Load it with ton of explosives

4. They hit Rome, Paris, London, Madrid or Jerusalem

- These terrorists are very cunning, intelligent and willing to wait to make their next move!  

Let's not forget the poor souls that were on that flight that could be alive and held as hostages or human shields. The plane, God forbid, could also be used as a dirty bomb with radiological junk or biological crap. I hope if we ever find it on the ground we destroy it immediately and not wring our hands about innocents that might be collateral to its destruction.

Wow - This whole scenario is really strange. I never would have guessed it would go down the areas that is being suspected now. It is more crucial that we find this plane now. Given all the satellites we have and that they can almost look into our backyards, can they not have something? But maybe they have to be directed to do that kind of looking. Some scary scenarios out there now.

MP - If we do find this plane, I can't believe we would destroy it unless we know some threat was imminent or we knew absolutely that the passengers were already dead. And the question becomes, who would do any kind of action like this? The U.S.?

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Mar 16, 2014 6:43:16 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Mar 15, 2014 13:32:42 GMT -5 @misspractice said:

Let's not forget the poor souls that were on that flight that could be alive and held as hostages or human shields. The plane, God forbid, could also be used as a dirty bomb with radiological junk or biological crap. I hope if we ever find it on the ground we destroy it immediately and not wring our hands about innocents that might be collateral to its destruction.

Wow - This whole scenario is really strange. I never would have guessed it would go down the areas that is being suspected now. It is more crucial that we find this plane now. Given all the satellites we have and that they can almost look into our backyards, can they not have something? But maybe they have to be directed to do that kind of looking. Some scary scenarios out there now.

MP - If we do find this plane, I can't believe we would destroy it unless we know some threat was imminent or we knew absolutely that the passengers were already dead. And the question becomes, who would do any kind of action like this? The U.S.?

If the plane was, god forbid, diverted to a landing strip somewhere in Southeast Asia, I cannot imagine a reason other than to reuse it and not as a revenue generating commercial airliner. I truly hope that is not the case but given how cleanly (extremely well planned) this has been executed and the dribs and drabs of info coming out late that would have been known early on, I don't think we are being told the whole story by any means. Say it was found in a desert area in one of the "....stans" - I doubt anyone would want to wait for an imminent threat - that plane could be repainted, armed with explosives, etc., take off and then blend in with other commercial airliners. Repainting it and recoding a transponder to look like a legitimate commercial flight would not seem difficult especially when you consider its onboard systems were disabled so quickly and efficiently - there have been reports that a flight engineer was booked on that flight as a passenger. I interpret your question "The U.S.?" was aimed at who would destroy it if found. Am I correct? I hope you weren't implying that the U.S. would have planned the takeover/diversion if that is what happened. This originated from an airport in an Islamic country so if it quacks like a duck, my guess is it's a duck. I would think destroying it would be easy for our special forces or a well targeted cruise missle and I would do it even if the whereabouts of the 239 passengers was unknown. I would think any terrorist based reuse would happen sooner rather than later as they would not risk the increased chance of discovery as more and more time goes by. Scary!

[indian82]

Real quick clarification. Yes - My question would be who would be responsible for destroying it?

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Mar 16, 2014 7:45:02 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Real quick clarification. Yes - My question would be who would be responsible for destroying it?

Rather than seeing it as a "responsibility" I'd rather look to who could do it quickly, efficiently and with the least collateral damage - that would be us. Unfortunately we'd have to get buy in from some "...stans" to do it "legally" given our assets would have to overfly some countries. Have to consider that our stepping up to the plate overtly could be considered an act of war if it was in a country like Iran or Pakistan. Now that our Russian relations are stretched beyond a working together on anything point, it would be a mess. If we knew where it was now I'd council keeping our mouth shut, destroy it now and then go Wow after the fact - no traceable link - we'd be called out on it but denying it would be the course I'd recommend.