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Post by bigfan on Nov 18, 2013 22:09:25 GMT -5
I've said before. .. hymes is fine scoring if you give him a complete green light and the outcome of the game doesn't matter. He can score 15 points on 20 shots with the best of them I think we all understand that you don't care for Evan as a player, but you are greatly exaggerating his offensive inefficiency. Evan actually averages more points than shots, has a positive career assist/TO ratio (barely), and was a critical cog as a freshman for his team. His struggles defensively are well known, but to characterize him as a D2 player is far from accurate. Compare his freshman stats to Pat Cole's, for instance. Do you think Pat is a D2 player, too? As a fan, I always want to see the team improve, so I have the same desire to see an upgrade in talent. Just don't sell Evan short (hehe) on what he brings to the table.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Nov 18, 2013 22:09:34 GMT -5
How are we blaming Hymes for the La Salle loss? Hymes wasn't playing in the critical end of the game when we lost it. I have to think our odds would have been better with him running the point after Wright fouled out. If he said or did something to warrant getting pulled and then he sulked... How do you NOT blame him? Well, that juicy tidbit was posted by a user who joined in August and seems to favor another Siena guard, then corroborated by an Iona fan with a reputation for stirring the pot who wouldn't be in a position to know. Nobody else is talking.
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Post by basketballfan on Nov 19, 2013 0:18:42 GMT -5
Guy sounds like a scary stalker of the kid!
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 19, 2013 7:10:40 GMT -5
If he said or did something to warrant getting pulled and then he sulked... How do you NOT blame him? Well, that juicy tidbit was posted by a user who joined in August and seems to favor another Siena guard, then corroborated by an Iona fan with a reputation for stirring the pot who wouldn't be in a position to know. Nobody else is talking. Did you think Patsos or anyone related to the team is going to say something? You got about as much from Patsos as you were going to get. .. In referring to why Hymes went to the locker room. .. "he was a little out of sync". In other words ... he threw a tantrum
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 19, 2013 7:12:39 GMT -5
Hoopjunkie started th thread and he has been around forever - no pot stirring, just checking stories out
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Post by DelmartianEd on Nov 19, 2013 7:57:37 GMT -5
Hoopjunkie started th thread and he has been around forever - no pot stirring, just checking stories out Agreed. The pot stirrer is over on the MAAC Hoops board. But these are how rumors pass around. "Out of sync" sounds like gameplay commentary to me.
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 19, 2013 8:10:05 GMT -5
Hoopjunkie started th thread and he has been around forever - no pot stirring, just checking stories out Agreed. The pot stirrer is over on the MAAC Hoops board. But these are how rumors pass around. "Out of sync" sounds like gameplay commentary to me. this makes me wonder just how many kids went to the locker room because they were ..... "out of sync". stop.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Nov 19, 2013 8:51:58 GMT -5
Agreed. The pot stirrer is over on the MAAC Hoops board. But these are how rumors pass around. "Out of sync" sounds like gameplay commentary to me. this makes me wonder just how many kids went to the locker room because they were ..... "out of sync". stop. Speculation. You stop. What evidence do you have that he didn't need some attention from the trainer, or had to take a piss?
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 19, 2013 9:21:07 GMT -5
this makes me wonder just how many kids went to the locker room because they were ..... "out of sync". stop. Speculation. You stop. What evidence do you have that he didn't need some attention from the trainer, or had to take a piss? Believe what you will. That much is obvious
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Post by th24 on Nov 19, 2013 9:56:40 GMT -5
1. I agree ..all of this is speculation! Let's relax with trashing of Hymes. The kid has flaws but he doesn't deserve 3 pages of B.S-he is not Brookens or Burdine! And FYI...there hasn't been one news report to verify any of this!
2. Q: When a blog trashes a player- do you think recruits like seeing that? NO!! It reflects very badly on the Siena fan base. Especially when it's all B.S.!
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Post by greenblood on Nov 19, 2013 9:58:57 GMT -5
1. I agree ..all of this is speculation! Let's relax with trashing of Hymes. The kid has flaws but he doesn't deserve 3 pages of B.S-he is not Brookens or Burdine! And FYI...there hasn't been one news report to verify any of this! 2. Q: When a blog trashes a player- do you think recruits like seeing that? NO!! It reflects very badly on the Siena fan base. Especially when it's all B.S.! Recruits? Hell some current players read this board and as we all know, so do parents. I'm not saying we shouldn't have frank discussions about shortcomings or areas we would like to see improvement in (for whatever our opinions are worth), but really, let's not put gasoline on anything that isn't based in fact.
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Post by th24 on Nov 19, 2013 10:06:47 GMT -5
I have been comparing the Bonnie blog with this one for years. They give ANALYSIS but they don't trash their players. Siena is better than this people!
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 19, 2013 10:21:49 GMT -5
just so we are clear... my reservations re: Hymes arent focused on behavior that may or may not have happened at lasalle. It is based on his inability to be a net positive on the floor for the team. So far this season Hymes as scored 22 points on 24 shots. Hes 9 of 24 fg% (.375). Hes 3 of 13 from 3 (.231). 7 assists against 9 fouls and 6 turnovers. Lets not get in to how many points have been allowed due to poor defense. And... hes a Junior... who has more minutes/experience than many players starting their Senior year.
this is it for me on this topic. Defend him if you will but the facts speak for themselves....
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Post by DelmartianEd on Nov 19, 2013 10:28:05 GMT -5
1. I agree ..all of this is speculation! Let's relax with trashing of Hymes. The kid has flaws but he doesn't deserve 3 pages of B.S-he is not Brookens or Burdine! And FYI...there hasn't been one news report to verify any of this! 2. Q: When a blog trashes a player- do you think recruits like seeing that? NO!! It reflects very badly on the Siena fan base. Especially when it's all B.S.! Recruits? Hell some current players read this board and as we all know, so do parents. I'm not saying we shouldn't have frank discussions about shortcomings or areas we would like to see improvement in (for whatever our opinions are worth), but really, let's not put gasoline on anything that isn't based in fact. Yes. This.
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Post by billmurray on Nov 20, 2013 16:24:34 GMT -5
If this was ever a real issue it didn't seem to have any impact on last night. From my perspective it was always a non issue.
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