Don't worry, the MAAC sucks.

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FF lost to Bridgeport by 4, and the stats make it look worse.
Manhattan turned the ball over 21 times against a D2 team that has 8 COMBINED wins over the last 3 years.
Niagara is scrappy but just can't shoot from anywhere and have suspect inside game. Raw too, had 15 assists vs. 17 TOs against D3 team while shooting 18 % from three. In high 20s 1st exhibition. Constant trouble from FT line too.

[SIENA1971]

KK . . . so what will Siena's MAAC record be this season based on your scouting reports

[MTS]

I've always felt we have a good chance to finish at least .500 in the conference this season. However I will say don't put too much stock in exhibition games. I can just see Siena struggling tomorrow night winning by like 12 and have the doom and gloomers come out and predict disaster. Relax it's a long season. We will get better as our young guys get more experience. Of course if we win by 40 tomorrow then it's safe to say we're going to the final four

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Nov 1, 2013 20:45:51 GMT -5 SIENA1971 said:

KK . . . so what will Siena's MAAC record be this season based on your scouting reports

Still working on it. Need to get thru Sunday. Have to see what Rider and Monmouth is using for lineups.

My above post gives hints to how I'm feeling about the above teams.

I've said all summer the conference is Iona's to lose. Still feel that way. I think Siena stands a better chance vs. this year's MAAC with this ball control lineup of Wright, Hymes, Poole, Long and Silas.

They are definitely moving up in my eyes just don't quite no how far yet.

[SaintMisbehavin]

Manhattan still won by like 30, right? Once Alvarado is back, I don't question Manhattan's abilities.

Niagara and FF (with extremely little backcourt returning) both have every right to be questioned.

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Nov 1, 2013 21:02:40 GMT -5 SaintMisbehavin said:

Manhattan still won by like 30, right? Once Alvarado is back, I don't question Manhattan's abilities.

Niagara and FF (with extremely little backcourt returning) both have every right to be questioned.

Manhattan won by 26 yes. But, again, they played a team who has won just 8 games COMBINED over the last 3 years in D2.

Manhattan has a history of leading the MAAC in TOs already. Beamon coming back doesn't help the problem with his career .66 assist ratio. I also fear his 40% 3pt shooting year was a complete fluke considering he shot under 15% over his 1st 2 years and started out 20% last year. 2 of 8 tonight.

They have their flaws.

[IndianSaint]

KK love the stats and enthusiasm.

I'm torn. Part of me liked reading the other MAAC teams' struggles against inferior competition; however the other part of me wants the other MAAC teams to win OOC games in order to boost the conference's RPI, Sagarin, any all other ratings/rankings.

I still think we could surprise some come Feb & March, even if it's simply wishful thinking. I really think the team can gel by then, and if they continue to play hard (and smart); who knows how far we could go this year.

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If Siena does well this year, things look similarly well if not better for next year.

Graduation losses include pretty big names.

Armand, Bowman, Poole, Gomez

Baron, Perez, Manhertz, Heath

Alvarado, Beamon, Brown

S.Shannon, U. Shannon, Azotam

Bowie, Kemp

Myles, Stewart, Pereira

Barrow

Jordan

Burke

[SIENA1971]

Manhattan

www.nycbuckets.com/2013/11/5-thoughts-manhattans-exhibition-victory/

[gorvy]

You don't have to do a lot of analysis--- the maac has at least three teams that suck every year. That's why I refuse to believe that we will finish 8th, because that would mean we suck. We don't suck.

[Tony]

I like our chances in MAAC- for a few reasons. By Conference time the freshmen will have some experience under their belt. And with new rule changes and all the fouls- this Siena team is pretty deep. Still hard to predict where Saints will end up—but I like our chances for a top 6 finish – and with a bit a luck who knows

[th24]

I could see Siena come in 3rd or 4th in the MAAC!

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Nov 3, 2013 5:39:59 GMT -5 Tony said:

I like our chances in MAAC- for a few reasons. By Conference time the freshmen will have some experience under their belt. And with new rule changes and all the fouls- this Siena team is pretty deep. Still hard to predict where Saints will end up—but I like our chances for a top 6 finish – and with a bit a luck who knows

I thought the MAAC last year was tough to predict but this year is really tough. If the Saints take care of the ball even half as well as they did vs. NJCU, they have a major edge. I'm worried still about our ability to force TOs, fouls, and 3 pt shooting but the fact that Siena is taking care of the ball and is taking on Jimmy's typical second half energy has me optimistic.

If JO is gonna be a shotblocker too, that really changes things as well. I wasn't expecting that.

With all but Iona & maybe Canisius likely to have negative assist ratios as well as other flaws, it makes me think Siena could fly as high as 3rd if some things break in their favor. But part of me also still fears 9th.

[Tony]

The answer to all of KK questions

Jimmy’s press is designed more to speed up game than force turnovers- playing lots of freshmen- we are gonna foul like crazy. 3 point shooting will be fine. Siena will take care of the ball for most part. I tried to tell you JO was a good player since last year- you poo=pooed him since he was local and we must be over rating him

Not sure Siena can fly as high as 3rd..or fly as low as 9th but I won’t quibble.. I do agree very difficult to pinpoint where Siena will finish- playing so many freshmen, its impossible to predict their learning curve—I’m going to go somewhere around 6th ( give or take 2 spots either way in standings)

Hope that helps to alleviate your fears

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I made my official prediction on the MAAC board. It's a bit unconventional but I'd never win the contest again if I didn't keep straying from the popular opinion.

1. Iona (16-4)
2. Manhattan (16-4)
3. Marist (13-7)
4. Rider (13-7)
5. Siena(12-8)
6. Canisius(12-8)
7. Quinnipiac (10-10)
8. Fairfield (7-13)
9. St. Peter's (6-14)
10. Niagara (4-16)
11. Monmouth (1-19)