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Post by th24 on Oct 18, 2013 20:57:42 GMT -5
There is no way Coach P starting 4/5 freshmen ..unless there is blowout! GIVE ME A BREAK! Cole is not a freshman. Coach P is just giving the blogs something to talk about- and ...guess what..its working! lol It's GREAT P.R.! And it costs NOTHING!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:04:11 GMT -5
Coach P is just giving the blogs something to talk about- and ...guess what..its working! lol It's GREAT P.R.! And it costs NOTHING! I think the 4 frosh thing came from channel 6 Wright video. But per Andrew Santillo @andrewsantillo 6h Patsos said wasn't sure about starting five, then said JO/Bisping, Lavon, Poole, Oliver & Wright (keep in mind Hymes is hurt)
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 18, 2013 21:04:16 GMT -5
Wright White Cole Long JO You will see this 5 on the floor as well. Wow, less than a week from my first, and only, look /opinion, things have drastically changed huh? LOL That "white" team from Saturdays open practice got a real facelift!! What a surprise.... The only difference is I (or some of us fans) may have considered this type of line-up eventually (maybe Jan or Feb as starting & occasionally used prior to then but not as starting line-up). Whereas I may have assumed you wanted this type of line-up (plus don't RS Wolfe) from day one (UAlbany game). That's some of the difference in opinions.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 18, 2013 21:08:17 GMT -5
Wright White Cole Long JO You will see this 5 on the floor as well. Wow, less than a week from my first, and only, look /opinion, things have drastically changed huh? LOL That "white" team from Saturdays open practice got a real facelift!! What a surprise.... Relax....I said you will see this lineup...I didn't say to start...the point is it does not matter who starts...this team has options. ..Prob play with a 3 headed center like the old Bulls
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Post by th24 on Oct 18, 2013 21:14:21 GMT -5
What Coach P. is doing is GREAT- is giving the blogs what they want! B.S. TALK ! LOL And fan base is soo hungry to win...they are foaming the mouth for anything and everything. lol Go have beer and relax! Next week there will be another lineup! Then another the following week..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:18:44 GMT -5
To my knowledge the Cole waiver request has not been answered yet. Clearly he will be in the playing group if the waiver is granted. At this juncture I'm not considering him as an option. That said, the Wright, White, Poole, Long and JO "hinted" lineup (I'm discounting Wolfe based on the RS possibility) makes a lot of sense for a couple of reasons: 1) shot of incentive for the other players to work even harder than they are now and they are all busting their asses, and 2) OOC games are supposed to be primarily used to develop players for the more important conference games - investing earlier in the young guys, even against teams like Purdue, Memphis, etc., is a smart move, IMHO. I think the starting lineup for the NJCU game may not necessarily be the same for the UA game. No matter what, it will be interesting.
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Post by knicksaint on Oct 18, 2013 21:41:25 GMT -5
I understand that the waiver application was filed and Siena has been asked for additional information, which is to be submitted by Monday.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 18, 2013 21:42:23 GMT -5
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Post by th24 on Oct 18, 2013 22:40:49 GMT -5
I would go with Bisbing- based on the fact that you really don't want 3 freshmen out there at the same time. It might be too overwhelming...unless JO is playing lights out in the next couple weeks!
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Post by Sienafan on Oct 18, 2013 23:12:03 GMT -5
Well there you have it - most of the starters have been named. Wright and Poole was no surprise. But Oliver winning the 2 spot is. I guess White is just too far behind. Oliver's 3 point shooting will be most welcome. I thought Long might win a starting slot, but I don't know how PPC feels about him being made a 4 permanently. It makes sense to me though. I don't see him being a full-time wing at the college level without 3 point range. He'll bring the ball up a lot on fast breaks though, so his ball handling will be a matchup nightmare. Look for Long or Wright to win MAAC ROY. The Bisping/JO battle for the 5 is interesting. I think JO will ultimately win that battle as he's more comfortable operating in the paint than Bisping. The loser of that battle will be the first big off the bench. Siena will be small starting a frontcourt that goes 6'5, 6'6, 6'8. Not sure how I feel about that. But I guess they can go big when they need to.
Sounds like Silas didn't get it done, lost his starting spot, and will be the 8th man. It appears that him, Hymes and White will round out the 9 man playing rotation with Hymes the likely sixth man. Audu doesn't make the playing rotation and Wolfe appears on his way to a redshirt. I guess that outstanding practice of his some people saw was 1 of only 2 out of 10 good ones he's had. Wolfe and Cole will be great additions next season if both their current situations hold.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 18, 2013 23:26:59 GMT -5
Well there you have it - most of the starters have been named. Wright and Poole was no surprise. But Oliver winning the 2 spot is. I guess White is just too far behind. Oliver's 3 point shooting will be most welcome. I thought Long might win a starting slot, but I don't know how PPC feels about him being made a 4 permanently. It makes sense to me though. I don't see him being a full-time wing at the college level without 3 point range. He'll bring the ball up a lot on fast breaks though, so his ball handling will be a matchup nightmare. Look for Long or Wright to win MAAC ROY. The Bisping/JO battle for the 5 is interesting. I think JO will ultimately win that battle as he's more comfortable operating in the paint than Bisping. The loser of that battle will be the first big off the bench. Siena will be small starting a frontcourt that goes 6'5, 6'6, 6'8. Not sure how I feel about that. But I guess they can go big when they need to. Sounds like Silas didn't get it done, lost his starting spot, and will be the 8th man. It appears that him, Hymes and White will round out the 9 man playing rotation with Hymes the likely sixth man. Audu doesn't make the playing rotation and Wolfe appears on his way to a redshirt. I guess that outstanding practice of his some people saw was 1 of only 2 out of 10 good ones he's had. Wolfe and Cole will be great additions next season if both their current situations hold. Lavon does have 3pt range and will play the 3 as well...I told you guys not to count Oliver out
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Post by hoopjunkie on Oct 19, 2013 2:32:12 GMT -5
Well there you have it - most of the starters have been named. Wright and Poole was no surprise. But Oliver winning the 2 spot is. I guess White is just too far behind. Oliver's 3 point shooting will be most welcome. I thought Long might win a starting slot, but I don't know how PPC feels about him being made a 4 permanently. It makes sense to me though. I don't see him being a full-time wing at the college level without 3 point range. He'll bring the ball up a lot on fast breaks though, so his ball handling will be a matchup nightmare. Look for Long or Wright to win MAAC ROY. The Bisping/JO battle for the 5 is interesting. I think JO will ultimately win that battle as he's more comfortable operating in the paint than Bisping. The loser of that battle will be the first big off the bench. Siena will be small starting a frontcourt that goes 6'5, 6'6, 6'8. Not sure how I feel about that. But I guess they can go big when they need to. Sounds like Silas didn't get it done, lost his starting spot, and will be the 8th man. It appears that him, Hymes and White will round out the 9 man playing rotation with Hymes the likely sixth man. Audu doesn't make the playing rotation and Wolfe appears on his way to a redshirt. I guess that outstanding practice of his some people saw was 1 of only 2 out of 10 good ones he's had. Wolfe and Cole will be great additions next season if both their current situations hold. Lavon does have 3pt range and will play the 3 as well...I told you guys not to count Oliver out IF Cole gets the waiver, Long gets literally no run at the "3." With everyone agreeing that Wright ets 30+ min at the point with Hymes getting whats left over, hiow do you divide the 80 minutes at the 2 and 3?? Oliver , (who you love), Poole, Cole and White? I'll let you off the hook with "White teamer Audu." With those 4, I don't see how long gets any burn at those perimeter positions. This doesn't mean you can't run an offense where Long, as a "4," plays as a wing with one big, but he won't get real minutes at the SF, especially if Cole is eligible.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 19, 2013 3:24:41 GMT -5
Lavon does have 3pt range and will play the 3 as well...I told you guys not to count Oliver out IF Cole gets the waiver, Long gets literally no run at the "3." With everyone agreeing that Wright ets 30+ min at the point with Hymes getting whats left over, hiow do you divide the 80 minutes at the 2 and 3?? Oliver , (who you love), Poole, Cole and White? I'll let you off the hook with "White teamer Audu." With those 4, I don't see how long gets any burn at those perimeter positions. This doesn't mean you can't run an offense where Long, as a "4," plays as a wing with one big, but he won't get real minutes at the SF, especially if Cole is eligible. With Lavon at the 4 Siena is playing with 4 guards...the 3 and 4 are interchangeable. The difference is in the defense. ...on offense the 3 and 4 take advantage of miss matches during the course of the game. It does not matter what number you give Lavon he will play his game. ..not worried at all....excited about all of the options this team has..KK called it from the start...Lavon helps the team more defending big and being a matchup problem on offense. ..it is whatever for me recruiting is over and Lavon is a Saint...playing for a coach that knows his game and plans to let him play it
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Post by Sienafan on Oct 19, 2013 3:37:32 GMT -5
IF Cole gets the waiver, Long gets literally no run at the "3." With everyone agreeing that Wright ets 30+ min at the point with Hymes getting whats left over, hiow do you divide the 80 minutes at the 2 and 3?? Oliver , (who you love), Poole, Cole and White? I'll let you off the hook with "White teamer Audu." With those 4, I don't see how long gets any burn at those perimeter positions. This doesn't mean you can't run an offense where Long, as a "4," plays as a wing with one big, but he won't get real minutes at the SF, especially if Cole is eligible. With Lavon at the 4 Siena is playing with 4 guards...the 3 and 4 are interchangeable. The difference is in the defense. ...on offense the 3 and 4 take advantage of miss matches during the course of the game. It does not matter what number you give Lavon he will play his game. ..not worried at all....excited about all of the options this team has..KK called it from the start...Lavon helps the team more defending big and being a matchup problem on offense. ..it is whatever for me recruiting is over and Lavon is a Saint...playing for a coach that knows his game and plans to let him play it You make a good point. We shouldn't fixate so much on the name of the traditional position a player is playing. One could look at it as Patsos is playing a center with two wings up front. As long as everyone gets to play their game and is happy with their role, I guess they don't care what you call their position - and neither should we.
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Post by Tony on Oct 19, 2013 6:17:17 GMT -5
Going to be exciting, Patsos seems to name a different starting team every week. But it certainly looks like the 4 freshmen will see considerable time , and while I doubt he starts 4 freshmen I do expect to see 4 freshmen on the floor together at times this year. And come on Th24—we have seen a Siena coach play 4 freshmen on the floor before- just look back to Fran’s second year , when many times Ubilies, Franklin, Magee and Moore were on the floor together and it happened quite often. The freshmen are obviously breathing down the upperclassmen’s back. Really looking forward to the year starting, with all the freshmen playing its going to be a roller-coaster , but it should be exciting to watch them develop
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