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Post by glen on Feb 22, 2024 9:39:39 GMT -5
I just received an email with a fairly broad survey about the MAAC as a conference (not specifically hoop).
It seems clear to me why the MAAC is a mess. There are lots of priorities that have nothing to do with competitive sports. MA(Athletic Conference) -the name indicates the focus should be athletics. Sure the schools are academic institutions but the grouping is about sports.
It will be interesting to see what kind of feedback they get and what they do with it.
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Post by marshotel on Feb 22, 2024 11:43:20 GMT -5
Filled out the survey survey this morning. I'm not sure the value of those pre-canned questions. However, I took advantage of the text fields to mention some tournament suggestions. Only took a few minutes to fill this out, probably a good idea to take the time if you received the survey.
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Post by billmurray on Feb 22, 2024 12:01:27 GMT -5
I filled out the MAAC survey and the Siena email offering incentives to attend the tournament in AC. I made clear in both that competitiveness is the top priority for the MAAC and each member institution and I specifically responded to the Siena email that the product was entirely unacceptable and that if change was not made it would be the death knell for Siena basketball. Sad but true.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 22, 2024 12:53:09 GMT -5
I filled out the MAAC survey and the Siena email offering incentives to attend the tournament in AC. I made clear in both that competitiveness is the top priority for the MAAC and each member institution and I specifically responded to the Siena email that the product was entirely unacceptable and that if change was not made it would be the death knell for Siena basketball. Sad but true. Who did you respond to at Siena, Fan Relations? |
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Post by billmurray on Feb 22, 2024 13:20:33 GMT -5
I filled out the MAAC survey and the Siena email offering incentives to attend the tournament in AC. I made clear in both that competitiveness is the top priority for the MAAC and each member institution and I specifically responded to the Siena email that the product was entirely unacceptable and that if change was not made it would be the death knell for Siena basketball. Sad but true. Who did you respond to at Siena, Fan Relations? The email was from sienatickets2@siena.edu I assume it was from the Siena season ticket office. The MAAC survey came from the same source. |
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Post by billmurray on Feb 22, 2024 14:46:08 GMT -5
I hope those who read these posts responded to the survey and MAAC ticket solicitation. 245 people have read the thread and only 4 responded here. If that is the extent of interest than there is no hope for any change in the Siena basketball product. I would hope that all 245 make their thoughts known to Siena and the MAAC.
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Post by MTS on Feb 22, 2024 14:56:47 GMT -5
I hope those who read these posts responded to the survey and MAAC ticket solicitation. 245 people have read the thread and only 4 responded here. If that is the extent of interest than there is no hope for any change in the Siena basketball product. I would hope that all 245 make their thoughts known to Siena and the MAAC. Like I said in another post people vote with their wallets not surveys. The big boosters make the calls. |
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Post by billmurray on Feb 22, 2024 15:01:45 GMT -5
I hope those who read these posts responded to the survey and MAAC ticket solicitation. 245 people have read the thread and only 4 responded here. If that is the extent of interest than there is no hope for any change in the Siena basketball product. I would hope that all 245 make their thoughts known to Siena and the MAAC. Like I said in another post people vote with their wallets not surveys. The big boosters make the calls. Small donors count too. Ask any politician, particularly Donald Trump. I would hope that a change is made before we all cancel our season tickets. For Siena that would be too late. Once those seats are empty it will be very hard to backfill them. |
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Post by glen on Feb 22, 2024 16:42:11 GMT -5
I will also be sending an email directly to D'Arg and the president, to make the points (that I made in the survey) very directly as the MAAC survey is conference-wide and not Siena specific. I'm guessing all the schools are sending out to their fans.
One think I will be pointing out is that the younger generation doesn't like to commit to anything for more than 5 minutes. While all of us older folks will eventually pass on, it hopefully won't be for a while. The season ticketholders should be treated like gold because getting new buyers of those season tickets is going to be much harder than in the past. I can tell you that when I graduated ('89) I couldn't wait to get my season tickets. Of course that was coming off the first NCAA win (real not play-in ;-) That was when the student section at the ARC was (tee pee) rowdy! There were 5 students at the game Sunday. That doesn't bode well for generating a new base of ticketholders. Even if the students were packing the arena, turning that into season tickets is still an uphill battle.
14 years of mediocrity, multiple bad coaches, no student enthusiasm...sure, go try to sell that!
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Post by legacy on Feb 22, 2024 18:04:51 GMT -5
I hope those who read these posts responded to the survey and MAAC ticket solicitation. 245 people have read the thread and only 4 responded here. If that is the extent of interest than there is no hope for any change in the Siena basketball product. I would hope that all 245 make their thoughts known to Siena and the MAAC. Like I said in another post people vote with their wallets not surveys. The big boosters make the calls. Mike while I understand the basic economics of this I still disagree- it's a cop out to defer to big boosters- we ALL have a say and the little guys like us who have faithfully purchased seasons tickets for decades and passed on this legacy of Siena basketball to family and friends should be heard...It is our duty to at least make some good noise. Sent my letter to the new Pres- told him the irony of my letter couldn't be more timely! Not only did the article on my "legacy family"(our passion ignited by Siena basketball success) debut in January but this weekend heralded one of the epitomes of Siena Bball success...the 94 NIT run and all this coincides as the program slides into the lowest echelons of obscurity and dishonor. I urged him to make the necessary albeit difficult changes to the program...that ineptitude shouldn't be rewarded nor does complicity of such constitute economic prudence...and if changes werent made we wouldn't be continuing our over 40 year ticket membership. I am not naive that my letter will have any sway- I knew he could give two hoots about us-but I wrote in hopes that if enough little people like me do so-we can hope for change with our numbers...if we DONT write they assume OUR silence is complicity. |
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Post by glen on Feb 22, 2024 18:42:14 GMT -5
Spot on legacy. Enough of these emails and it becomes clear they need to act. Again, this will cost them, but it will cost them either way. Keep Carm and they lose a large chunk of the base (likely costing as much or more over 2+ years) or ditch Carm, eat the contract and keep the base around for a few more seasons.
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Post by MTS on Feb 22, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -5
Like I said in another post people vote with their wallets not surveys. The big boosters make the calls. Mike while I understand the basic economics of this I still disagree- it's a cop out to defer to big boosters- we ALL have a say and the little guys like us who have faithfully purchased seasons tickets for decades and passed on this legacy of Siena basketball to family and friends should be heard...It is our duty to at least make some good noise. Sent my letter to the new Pres- told him the irony of my letter couldn't be more timely! Not only did the article on my "legacy family"(our passion ignited by Siena basketball success) debut in January but this weekend heralded one of the epitomes of Siena Bball success...the 94 NIT run and all this coincides as the program slides into the lowest echelons of obscurity and dishonor. I urged him to make the necessary albeit difficult changes to the program...that ineptitude shouldn't be rewarded nor does complicity of such constitute economic prudence...and if changes werent made we wouldn't be continuing our over 40 year ticket membership. I am not naive that my letter will have any sway- I knew he could give two hoots about us-but I wrote in hopes that if enough little people like me do so-we can hope for change with our numbers...if we DONT write they assume OUR silence is complicity. Oh I agree. Several hundreds of fans pulling out will get their attention. The boosters will be the final blow. I sent a note to the AD (lol), the president and John Murray. No responses yet. |
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Post by SIENA1971 on Feb 22, 2024 22:20:17 GMT -5
Mike while I understand the basic economics of this I still disagree- it's a cop out to defer to big boosters- we ALL have a say and the little guys like us who have faithfully purchased seasons tickets for decades and passed on this legacy of Siena basketball to family and friends should be heard...It is our duty to at least make some good noise. Sent my letter to the new Pres- told him the irony of my letter couldn't be more timely! Not only did the article on my "legacy family"(our passion ignited by Siena basketball success) debut in January but this weekend heralded one of the epitomes of Siena Bball success...the 94 NIT run and all this coincides as the program slides into the lowest echelons of obscurity and dishonor. I urged him to make the necessary albeit difficult changes to the program...that ineptitude shouldn't be rewarded nor does complicity of such constitute economic prudence...and if changes werent made we wouldn't be continuing our over 40 year ticket membership. I am not naive that my letter will have any sway- I knew he could give two hoots about us-but I wrote in hopes that if enough little people like me do so-we can hope for change with our numbers...if we DONT write they assume OUR silence is complicity. Oh I agree. Hundreds fans pulling out will get their attention. The boosters will be the final blow. I sent a note to the AD (lol), the president and John Murray. No responses yet. With the State of the MAAC this season I’m curious how many MAAC fans will respond to it. Although the survey is Interesting if you read between the lines of some of priorities listed to choose from … w Manhattan having a $50 mil athletic department deficit over 4 years I’m thinking “league survivorship” will be of big concern across the board… shrinking the geographic footprint is one way to reduce costs … bad news for Canisius, Niagara & Rider |
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