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Post by hockeyguy on Apr 20, 2019 22:26:44 GMT -5
You could certainly win it all with this Siena crew.
However, it's just not really an uptempo team...nor a team capable of forcing a high amount of TOs nor racking up large rebound totals nor blocking a ton of shots..at least on paper. They're going to have to be deliberate and disciplined. And certain teams will kill them on the boards or hurt them in TO margin or efficiency...because well, Siena may not be elite in any category besides taking care of the ball. They may be serviceable in many, but not elite. And Pickett is the primary reason for them even being serviceable in those categories and great at taking care of the ball.
They probably are not going to be that uptempo (how many points do they add on to your score at the end of the game for being more uptempo than the other guy?) This past season Siena was 352 out of 353 teams in tempo. The only team with a slower tempo, 353 out of 353, ended up being national champions. "Statistics" ... sheesh.
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Post by rpize24 on Apr 21, 2019 8:51:58 GMT -5
You could certainly win it all with this Siena crew.
However, it's just not really an uptempo team...nor a team capable of forcing a high amount of TOs nor racking up large rebound totals nor blocking a ton of shots..at least on paper. They're going to have to be deliberate and disciplined. And certain teams will kill them on the boards or hurt them in TO margin or efficiency...because well, Siena may not be elite in any category besides taking care of the ball. They may be serviceable in many, but not elite. And Pickett is the primary reason for them even being serviceable in those categories and great at taking care of the ball.
They probably are not going to be that uptempo (how many points do they add on to your score at the end of the game for being more uptempo than the other guy?) This past season Siena was 352 out of 353 teams in tempo. The only team with a slower tempo, 353 out of 353, ended up being national champions. "Statistics" ... sheesh. They only played slow due to the personnel. Jamion took the right approach in adjusting his style of play to who he had rather than trying to force it on guys who didn’t fit the system. Carm said he plans on playing a bit faster and that’s gonna be based mostly on guard play
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 9:15:04 GMT -5
Nobody will care about the style of play as long as that style produces W’s. Well except for sienafanallyearlongwithnothingtodobutcomplainabouttempo.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Apr 21, 2019 9:48:20 GMT -5
Hahaha....Happy Easter to you to Racers Edge.
Sorry but cant apologize for asking for tempo. Its been a long time coming since we have had a successful team consistently scoring in the 70's or possibly even the 80's and playing aggressive in your face defense at the same time.
It's called fun....entertainment....and yes there are a number of teams oth in our conference and across the country who play to this style of ball and do it successfully.
Glad to hear you'd be accepting of 51-49 scores as long as we were the 51. I'm out if that were ever the case; even if they are winning. Might as well give up my season tickets for going to my local hs girls basketball games if that were the case.
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Post by MTS on Apr 21, 2019 10:33:56 GMT -5
Nobody will care about the style of play as long as that style produces W’s. Well except for sienafanallyearlongwithnothingtodobutcomplainabouttempo. 100% agree. Let's look at KenPom - Mitch's 1st year adjusted tempo was 53 followed by 199, 258 - remember when people complained we walked the ball up the court? Well his first year was very fast and second was in the top 200 (with the six guys). The reason he stunk was they were simply inefficient especially on offense. Now JP's KenPom tempo's 175, 82, 90, 143, 298 - only one season outside of the top 175. But he was an average to below average coach mainly because his defensive efficiency was terrible. Fran's KenPom tempo's 99, 67, 86, 18, 43 - Fran played fast AND was efficient both offensively and defensively. That's why we won big. The key for Siena next year is to get the scoring up to 74-77 points a game. Don't have to average in the 80's but you need to be near the mid 70's. Look at UVA reason they won the national championship this year was they simply were better on offense. You can't win the league scoring 65 points a game despite how good your defense is. Tempo wise doesn't really matter...efficiency does. #Analytics
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Post by goldsaint17 on Apr 21, 2019 10:39:04 GMT -5
Hahaha....Happy Easter to you to Racers Edge. Sorry but cant apologize for asking for tempo. Its been a long time coming since we have had a successful team consistently scoring in the 70's or possibly even the 80's and playing aggressive in your face defense at the same time. It's called fun....entertainment....and yes there are a number of teams oth in our conference and across the country who play to this style of ball and do it successfully. Glad to hear you'd be accepting of 51-49 scores as long as we were the 51. I'm out if that were ever the case; even if they are winning. Might as well give up my season tickets for going to my local hs girls basketball games if that were the case. 11 out of the top 20 teams in the country ranked 200th or slower in KenPom tempo. 5 of those were 300th or slower. Only 5 of the top 20 teams in tempo ranked in the top 50 nationally. Just win, baby. If you want an entertainment product, go buy season tickets to the Globetrotters. Now that is some fun basketball. We won’t be 2nd to last in tempo this year. We also won’t be top 100. And that’s okay!
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 21, 2019 10:41:44 GMT -5
Hahaha....Happy Easter to you to Racers Edge. Sorry but cant apologize for asking for tempo. Its been a long time coming since we have had a successful team consistently scoring in the 70's or possibly even the 80's and playing aggressive in your face defense at the same time. It's called fun....entertainment....and yes there are a number of teams oth in our conference and across the country who play to this style of ball and do it successfully. Glad to hear you'd be accepting of 51-49 scores as long as we were the 51. I'm out if that were ever the case; even if they are winning. Might as well give up my season tickets for going to my local hs girls basketball games if that were the case. Last year’s team given the personal played exactly how they needed too, you don’t pound a square peg into a round hole, especially not for entertainment value. If we want to play faster you first need to recruit for that style of play. Let’s see what Carm & co does with the 3 open slots.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 10:57:10 GMT -5
Hahaha....Happy Easter to you to Racers Edge. Sorry but cant apologize for asking for tempo. Its been a long time coming since we have had a successful team consistently scoring in the 70's or possibly even the 80's and playing aggressive in your face defense at the same time. It's called fun....entertainment....and yes there are a number of teams oth in our conference and across the country who play to this style of ball and do it successfully. Glad to hear you'd be accepting of 51-49 scores as long as we were the 51. I'm out if that were ever the case; even if they are winning. Might as well give up my season tickets for going to my local hs girls basketball games if that were the case. It’s simple, if you wanna get out and run you’d better make damn sure you’ve got the stable to do it. Sometimes slowing down to go faster makes more sense. But, we shall see. No matter what style basketball a coach decides to play if it doesn’t produce wins the fan base will be looking for his head. Plain and simple.
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Post by $cott on Apr 21, 2019 22:05:18 GMT -5
Hahaha....Happy Easter to you to Racers Edge. Sorry but cant apologize for asking for tempo. Its been a long time coming since we have had a successful team consistently scoring in the 70's or possibly even the 80's and playing aggressive in your face defense at the same time. It's called fun....entertainment....and yes there are a number of teams oth in our conference and across the country who play to this style of ball and do it successfully. Glad to hear you'd be accepting of 51-49 scores as long as we were the 51. I'm out if that were ever the case; even if they are winning. Might as well give up my season tickets for going to my local hs girls basketball games if that were the case. 11 out of the top 20 teams in the country ranked 200th or slower in KenPom tempo. 5 of those were 300th or slower. Only 5 of the top 20 teams in tempo ranked in the top 50 nationally. Just win, baby. If you want an entertainment product, go buy season tickets to the Globetrotters. Now that is some fun basketball. We won’t be 2nd to last in tempo this year. We also won’t be top 100. And that’s okay! images.app.goo.gl/RpDNxTPRA2xvopkRA
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Post by $cott on Apr 21, 2019 22:15:31 GMT -5
11 out of the top 20 teams in the country ranked 200th or slower in KenPom tempo. 5 of those were 300th or slower. Only 5 of the top 20 teams in tempo ranked in the top 50 nationally. Just win, baby. If you want an entertainment product, go buy season tickets to the Globetrotters. Now that is some fun basketball. We won’t be 2nd to last in tempo this year. We also won’t be top 100. And that’s okay! images.app.goo.gl/RpDNxTPRA2xvopkRAThere is probably an app for that, KK can post GIFs like it is his job, maybe he can help me here.
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Post by Dawg_gone_it on Apr 21, 2019 23:20:54 GMT -5
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 23, 2019 10:00:34 GMT -5
It’s been way too quiet on the recruiting front!
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Post by mjs72 on Apr 23, 2019 10:05:42 GMT -5
At least checking the Board every 15 minutes gives me an excuse not to work
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 11:02:02 GMT -5
At least checking the Board every 15 minutes gives me an excuse not to work Welcome to my life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 19:53:23 GMT -5
Jeeezz - I worked for the US Navy and Dept of Energy and I don't remember a week where I had a spare minute to follow the real world during the working day...times have certainly changed
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