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Post by CellarRat on Apr 15, 2018 9:30:00 GMT -5
Please enlighten us Yankee-- I wasn't aware that Pitino was accused of verbal abuse. Did he steal kids per diem? He must have grabbed or pushed a kid? what behavior are you alluding to that is similar to patsos? Karen syphers and the sex enticements to recruits is ok? There is more too. But those are ok? Success buys a lot of deference and forgiveness.
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Post by Tony on Apr 15, 2018 9:35:21 GMT -5
Yankee gets his own thread telling Siena fans how they dont deserve a good coach, only a Marist fan approved coach will do
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Post by Papi on Apr 15, 2018 10:58:10 GMT -5
Wow. Is all I can say. Cast a blind eye.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 15, 2018 11:14:14 GMT -5
Wow. Is all I can say. Cast a blind eye. It’s not going to happen. Beilein the family guy is the next head coach. Remember it’s a “ done deal”. 😝 Tick Tock
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Post by Papi on Apr 15, 2018 14:34:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Fran got "dumb" all of the sudden. Talent is the most important thing at this level. For real success, it's necessary. Or he got lazy, that's what the recruiting experts on this board say when recruits don't work out. Lol. Tick tock. I love this board.
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Post by olddave on Apr 15, 2018 15:15:46 GMT -5
Question is are TH and Yankee somehow related, or one in the same person. Both have alluded that they are in the teaching profession. God help our children.
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Post by yankee on Apr 15, 2018 19:50:29 GMT -5
I for one would find it a very refreshing change - we know he can coach, we know he can recruit, we know he will draw fans at the TUC and everywhere else in the MAAC - also, there are no more phone booths in our area... Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative?
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Post by yankee on Apr 15, 2018 20:26:31 GMT -5
I love this program but there is no place for this anywhere. Can't believe this is what this once great program has come to but it's time to move on and this is the final straw. Time for D'Argenio to do the right thing and fire him within the next 24 hours and hire a coach who knows how to win. One of the most despicable things I've ever seen. Truly disgusted and embarrassed that we allowed actions like this to take place at all You wrote this and now want pitino?
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 15, 2018 20:31:23 GMT -5
I for one would find it a very refreshing change - we know he can coach, we know he can recruit, we know he will draw fans at the TUC and everywhere else in the MAAC - also, there are no more phone booths in our area... Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative? It’s hard to argue with that.
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Post by olddave on Apr 15, 2018 21:08:16 GMT -5
I for one would find it a very refreshing change - we know he can coach, we know he can recruit, we know he will draw fans at the TUC and everywhere else in the MAAC - also, there are no more phone booths in our area... Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative? I don’t think MTS doesn’t think the man needs to hit the confessional. Who here, including yourself doesn’t need to. I keep hearing the Franciscan way, how about re reading Br Ed’s statement regarding JP. Now I think Pitino again is pure speculation and fun, but practice what you preach.
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Post by yankee on Apr 15, 2018 21:14:32 GMT -5
Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative? I don’t think MTS doesn’t think the man needs to hit the confessional. Who here, including yourself doesn’t need to. I keep hearing the Franciscan way, how about re reading Br Ed’s statement regarding JP. Now I think Pitino again is pure speculation and fun, but practice what you preach. Not MTS. This is for misspractice. A pitino hire goes against everything misspractice has been saying Siena needs for a head coach. Maybe he can prove me wrong. I would love to see that attempt. Just get Becker and be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 6:07:15 GMT -5
I for one would find it a very refreshing change - we know he can coach, we know he can recruit, we know he will draw fans at the TUC and everywhere else in the MAAC - also, there are no more phone booths in our area... Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative? You make a good point. I do believe that people can change - I've already struck out with that belief when Siena hired MB but I still believe that there are few absolutes. Pitino has a clear history of some shady dealings or associations, can't disagree with that. Could some of that happen at Siena were he to come here? I doubt it - maybe that's being naïve, but I think there are so many differences between our Program and those in the Power 5 ranks (or however else you want to describe the big boys). Those differences include a currently strong academic focus that I do not see changing and that would exclude many of the athletes that cause coaches to do whatever it takes to lure them. Siena does not have the financial resources to play per diem games on the other end of the scale from that used by Oh-no. Siena has a decent donor base and, in years past, there were many instances (that I won't document) of improper (by NCAA rules) payments to some players (pizza after a game, small group lunches, dinners, etc.) - all very small potatoes but all not allowed. Those things have been cleaned up to my knowledge. Could they restart with the same or more lavish treatment of players - I doubt that - Siena has a very capable Compliance Office and, were Pitino to come on board, their antenna's would be finely tuned. The Siena head coach gets a lot of local media coverage and can be subject to a lot of fan/donor pressure. That pressure, high by our standards, pales to that experienced at places like Louisville, Kentucky, etc. As to the hire - I don't think he would be offered but it has stimulated the debate I thought would be coming. Thanks HJ! Our current job is, IMO, a great opportunity for an incumbent to show his stuff - we are rock bottom but still have a lot going for us relative to other teams in the MAAC. Some may say a Pitino would not be here long - well, trust me, if a young and hungry coach, like Beilein gets us back where we want to be, his tenure would also be limited. A Becker might be a little more discerning as I'm guessing he'd be shopping a much higher next position. We have a history of coaches going to big names - Marquette, Georgia Tech, Seton Hall, Iowa - our Program is a potential launching pad and would be seen that way.
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Post by olddave on Apr 16, 2018 7:47:28 GMT -5
Practice, you always talk about respect needed back to the program. You talk about honor, dignity, respect, etc. How in your mind does pitino fit your narrative? You make a good point. I do believe that people can change - I've already struck out with that belief when Siena hired MB but I still believe that there are few absolutes. Pitino has a clear history of some shady dealings or associations, can't disagree with that. Could some of that happen at Siena were he to come here? I doubt it - maybe that's being naïve, but I think there are so many differences between our Program and those in the Power 5 ranks (or however else you want to describe the big boys). Those differences include a currently strong academic focus that I do not see changing and that would exclude many of the athletes that cause coaches to do whatever it takes to lure them. Siena does not have the financial resources to play per diem games on the other end of the scale from that used by Oh-no. Siena has a decent donor base and, in years past, there were many instances (that I won't document) of improper (by NCAA rules) payments to some players (pizza after a game, small group lunches, dinners, etc.) - all very small potatoes but all not allowed. Those things have been cleaned up to my knowledge. Could they restart with the same or more lavish treatment of players - I doubt that - Siena has a very capable Compliance Office and, were Pitino to come on board, their antenna's would be finely tuned. The Siena head coach gets a lot of local media coverage and can be subject to a lot of fan/donor pressure. That pressure, high by our standards, pales to that experienced at places like Louisville, Kentucky, etc. As to the hire - I don't think he would be offered but it has stimulated the debate I thought would be coming. Thanks HJ! Our current job is, IMO, a great opportunity for an incumbent to show his stuff - we are rock bottom but still have a lot going for us relative to other teams in the MAAC. Some may say a Pitino would not be here long - well, trust me, if a young and hungry coach, like Beilein gets us back where we want to be, his tenure would also be limited. A Becker might be a little more discerning as I'm guessing he'd be shopping a much higher next position. We have a history of coaches going to big names - Marquette, Georgia Tech, Seton Hall, Iowa - our Program is a potential launching pad and would be seen that way. Another well thought out post MP, concise to the point and probably over Yankee head.
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Post by saints22 on Apr 16, 2018 7:53:18 GMT -5
Another well thought out post MP, concise to the point and probably over Yankee head. [/quote] Why would you say that? Yankee seems like a pretty sincere, thoughtful poster to me.
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Post by yankee on Apr 16, 2018 13:39:46 GMT -5
She "seduced him" ? He couldn't just say "no" and walk away? If he had, there would be no possibility of being extorted. I am by no means defending the guy, but let’s put things in perspective. He did not commit a crime and the woman appears to be a nut. Not to mention she committed the crime of extortion and in this situation Pitino is the victim. Go Beilein! But the hookers for recruits?
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