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Post by musicman on Nov 26, 2016 11:47:12 GMT -5
That’s your opinion - keep in mind Albany can do what they want. Anyone who had a Albany season ticket didn’t get gouged. The vast majority of fans getting gouged are Siena fans- and Albany doesn’t care about them, other than they will gladly take their money. Really makes you guys look small complaining about game. UA charged what market would bare. Just go to game and pray Jimmy beats them- if you don’t like the terms wright D’arg a email- complaining on Siena board that UA is price gouging is making Siena fan look small and petty I can't dispute some of your points about what Albany can or can not do but this price gouging leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think it shows a total lack of class on Albany's part and this will be the last game I will ever go to at SEFCU. As a 40+ year Siena fan I have tried to have a positive attitude about UA's program. Like many Siena fans, I have started to think about going to some of their games to support them because they are a local team. Although the kids on their team have certainly nothing to do with this gouging, it has left the said " bad taste in my mouth" about their program. This slap in the face to the basketball fans that care to go to this game will in the long run hurt them. They will have a nice profit after this game but I personally don't think it was very intelligent thing to do in the long term. Time will tell. I think there are a lot of area basketball fans out there that will feel the same way that Psycholojets and I do.
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Post by musicman on Nov 26, 2016 11:50:45 GMT -5
This will be the first ASU/Siena basketball game where there isn't a compelling reason to keep me from making the drive up other than the arrogance of the ticket pricing, but I will not be making the trip. To pay $40 to sit in a gym for a basketball game between two mediocre mid-major teams makes no sense on any level to me regardless of any "rivalry" connotation between the schools. I am sure it will be loud, and passionate, but I will pass at that price. The Manhattan games are fun, the Marist games back a few years when they would bring a good contingent were great, and the 1hr 45min drive would seem like nothing. I'll make a few trips up for league games (Monmouth, Iona, Manhattan) and watch them here in the NY metro area (even St Peters most years) and get to check out Monmouth and maybe even "QU" this year. At $20 I would have been there, $40 is a matter of principle, not economics. and hockeyguy.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 13:18:34 GMT -5
The way I look at it- this is the Albany Sports Administration/Brown saying "F -YOU" Siena! You wanna go..you are going to pay! #NoClass Don’t be naïve- Please understand what you are talking about- It’s not up to Will Brown or Albany to “take care” of Siena fans- their “duty” is to do what’s best for UA. They have zero, none, nada responsibility to Siena fans And I should add Siena has zero responsibility to UA and its fans- Siena was under no obligation to give UA a home game This... Albany picked the absolute best price to max out revenue and still sell out. As a business move this was played perfectly.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 13:20:15 GMT -5
Just win Baby! Sure, Jimmy, it is all about the MAAC and three days in March but Siena coaches are, or should be, also judged on how they do in this game. With our talent and experience this is a game we should and, IMO, need to win for program credibility. No question you have a big edge in talent, experience and senior leadership. Ua back court doesn't have half the experience your back court does. You are also more athletic in the front court. Ua even at home is a dog, and should be. I think the opposite happens next year at Tuc as you'll graduate your entire core or close to it.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 13:22:33 GMT -5
Don’t be naïve- Please understand what you are talking about- It’s not up to Will Brown or Albany to “take care” of Siena fans- their “duty” is to do what’s best for UA. They have zero, none, nada responsibility to Siena fans And I should add Siena has zero responsibility to UA and its fans- Siena was under no obligation to give UA a home game Your right ..Albany doesn't have to ensure Siena fans are happy. However, Siena never once jack up the prices for this game or made or made their Albany fans feel unwanted! Yes, sitting in the corners or upper deck made us feel welcome. I understand why Siena did it. As Tony put it... You owe us zero... And in fact used your superior market position to the tune of 15 years.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 13:23:53 GMT -5
I think price gauging the fans on this has been a mistake. Making every penny on a one time event rather than using it as a loss leader to expand their fan base in the capital district is penny wise but pound foolish. Smalbany! Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards That's it' "a one time event". Get all you can. Well see how "one time" it is...
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Post by olddave on Nov 26, 2016 13:29:41 GMT -5
Albany played this beautifully- they got Jimmy and Darg to agree to go there- sold a ton of extra Albany season tickets- plus the “empire package. This game will be by far the biggest “payday” UA has ever got for a home game. The extra season tickets and empire packages- will boost their attendance at crap games to 2500 or so- the 4500 at this game will help bring up their avg season attendance up to or over 3k.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see UA leverage those type numbers to justify admittance to CAA..Let’s call a spade a spade here, Jimmy and Darg got bent over by UA admin Couldn't agree more. This admin couldn't negotiate, hire if their first born depended upon it. After Browns statement of trying to turn Siena fans away the game should have been pulled. As far as the CAA, they are not stupid. UA Stoneybrook football related. Lets see what the state of football is at this level in 5 years, with the current drop in ratings attendance participation. You really think the CAA wants someone like Brown in their league, the UA football coach is a class act, and the program isn't drawing as they should. More importantly is UA ready to give up the revenue from NCAA appearances on a regular basis if they should be invited to move up.
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Post by olddave on Nov 26, 2016 14:02:18 GMT -5
Your right ..Albany doesn't have to ensure Siena fans are happy. However, Siena never once jack up the prices for this game or made or made their Albany fans feel unwanted! Wow...they have always felt unwanted because of the fustercluck of putting this ticket in a package with season tix, leaving them no choice of better seating. Last year their students who did show up along with their band were put off the court in higher rows of the lower bowl. That was unnecessary and back handedly rude. Face facts, lesser conference or not they have done far more than us recently and the trajectory there is upward. We have to get better in our own weak conference and sustain it with reloading through recruitment, player development for those that stay, sound thorough preparation and in game management that it's FLEXible during games when things are going sideways. Most of us have succeeded in doing this in our careers and most of us don't make D-1 coach slaries. They bring half the horses to the race and I like the rivalry sans both coaches acting like piss heads. Charge what the market will bear. First come first served wherever it's played. Or can it and bring on St. Augustin of the Blind for a feel good moment. GB spot on. We all want to see the program and school do well. We all support both. Where does the blame lie for mediocracy, buck stops at the ivory tower and old boys club. Been saying it all along change is a necessary evil and not enough of it in Loudonville. We all want a program to succeed without infringing on our core values. Might not be able to have it 100% but can have it most of the way with the proper leadership. BTW not blaming the coach, he is only as good as those he reports to.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 14:14:39 GMT -5
Albany played this beautifully- they got Jimmy and Darg to agree to go there- sold a ton of extra Albany season tickets- plus the “empire package. This game will be by far the biggest “payday” UA has ever got for a home game. The extra season tickets and empire packages- will boost their attendance at crap games to 2500 or so- the 4500 at this game will help bring up their avg season attendance up to or over 3k.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see UA leverage those type numbers to justify admittance to CAA..Let’s call a spade a spade here, Jimmy and Darg got bent over by UA admin Couldn't agree more. This admin couldn't negotiate, hire if their first born depended upon it. After Browns statement of trying to turn Siena fans away the game should have been pulled. As far as the CAA, they are not stupid. UA Stoneybrook football related. Lets see what the state of football is at this level in 5 years, with the current drop in ratings attendance participation. You really think the CAA wants someone like Brown in their league, the UA football coach is a class act, and the program isn't drawing as they should. More importantly is UA ready to give up the revenue from NCAA appearances on a regular basis if they should be invited to move up. None of this post makes any sense... For one, let's start with the fact the league and not UA gets ncaa revenue money.
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Post by th24 on Nov 26, 2016 14:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by olddave on Nov 26, 2016 16:39:48 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more. This admin couldn't negotiate, hire if their first born depended upon it. After Browns statement of trying to turn Siena fans away the game should have been pulled. As far as the CAA, they are not stupid. UA Stoneybrook football related. Lets see what the state of football is at this level in 5 years, with the current drop in ratings attendance participation. You really think the CAA wants someone like Brown in their league, the UA football coach is a class act, and the program isn't drawing as they should. More importantly is UA ready to give up the revenue from NCAA appearances on a regular basis if they should be invited to move up. None of this post makes any sense... For one, let's start with the fact the league and not UA gets ncaa revenue money. and dummy how much does the league grant to UA, oh wait forgot the school will go to the big dance, be pc and say to league keep it all, lmao
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 17:29:46 GMT -5
None of this post makes any sense... For one, let's start with the fact the league and not UA gets ncaa revenue money. and dummy how much does the league grant to UA, oh wait forgot the school will go to the big dance, be pc and say to league keep it all, lmao How is this different in another one bid league where the league equally distributes the cash? Let me put it to you a different way, the 5 trips that UA went to the ncaa, they got the same share as Hartford... Is that clear to you? So knowing that, why don't you try and explain to me again how going to the caa who have similar rule impact UA negatively?
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Post by knicksaint on Nov 26, 2016 18:27:17 GMT -5
For Albany to join the CAA there will have to be an expansion to 12 teams. Unless the CAA gets two bids, the revenue will be split more ways. That is the downside.
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Post by hockeyguy on Nov 26, 2016 18:31:47 GMT -5
For Albany to join the CAA there will have to be an expansion to 12 teams. Unless the CAA gets two bids, the revenue will be split more ways. That is the downside. Since the VA teams left, the CAA is not what it used to be, not so sure it is a better BBall league then the MAAC (Hofstra was their best team?). Football, have no idea.
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Post by clickclack on Nov 26, 2016 18:39:40 GMT -5
For Albany to join the CAA there will have to be an expansion to 12 teams. Unless the CAA gets two bids, the revenue will be split more ways. That is the downside. Since the VA teams left, the CAA is not what it used to be, not so sure it is a better BBall league then the MAAC (Hofstra was their best team?). Football, have no idea. Colonial is world's better as a league then the ae and always higher rated then maac. Top to bottom, much better conference for basketball.
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