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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 20:24:04 GMT -5
How many NCAA wins all time for the UA "machine" ?? forget NCAA wins ( UA isn't close to one) UA has few non conference wins over teams with winning records, in fact not sure if UA has any non conf wins over team ranked in top 100-- if they do not many- in short typical low major program not sure why the UA clown is trying to talk smack when UA has done nothing,zero, zippo on national stage Having UConn on the ropes, hanging with Oklahoma, same with Florida two years ago. Dont know why you're saying that they were never close to one. And they won at Washington three years ago. And all that is ignoring the 5 NCAA appearances in 15 years as a D-1 team. Only one less than Siena whose been around for close to 40 years.
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Post by Tony on Jun 30, 2015 4:20:44 GMT -5
forget NCAA wins ( UA isn't close to one) UA has few non conference wins over teams with winning records, in fact not sure if UA has any non conf wins over team ranked in top 100-- if they do not many- in short typical low major program not sure why the UA clown is trying to talk smack when UA has done nothing,zero, zippo on national stage Having UConn on the ropes, hanging with Oklahoma, same with Florida two years ago. Dont know why you're saying that they were never close to one. And they won at Washington three years ago. And all that is ignoring the 5 NCAA appearances in 15 years as a D-1 team. Only one less than Siena whose been around for close to 40 years. Please-- UConn game you mean the greatest local game in NCAA history ..LOL the double digit loss , Florida another double digit loss - like I said not even close .. Oklahoma was a moral victory I guess only game that wasn't double digit loss 9 point loss - a game UA never had a lead and was behind 10 points or more most of the game--- these are your close game..LOL OK won at Washington --again nice win to crappy team not sure they even finished in top 100- you are reaching if that's the biggest wins you can come with- goes to show you how infrequently they beat teams with winning records And I'm not ignoring the NCAA appearances out of a weak conference- UA has done next to nothing in its history in out of conference - how dare you even compare that to Siena- not even close Albany's recents wins over Siena has more to do with Siena's weak teams than Albany's strength
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Post by glen on Jun 30, 2015 7:34:20 GMT -5
Tony - you nailed it. All those who have been saying "UA is going to be the dominant team..." are doing the "I told you so" dance right now. Unfortunately, it says more about Siena's weakness than UA's strength. UA has exactly ZERO up wins. Even when Siena was in the NAC - the AE for all intents and purposes...we still had wins against BCS teams in Pitt and Wake Forest. We also got our first NCAA win. UA has done none of that. I'll give them credit where due - their performance vs. UConn was amazing even in a loss (much like our loss to Maryland). The downside for UA is that was THE BEST team they've ever had. Jamar Wilson was the man. Nobody on the current or recent rosters even comes close.
UA is not getting better, we've gotten markedly worse. That's nothing to write home about for either team.
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Post by MTS on Jun 30, 2015 8:21:23 GMT -5
That's why it is frustrating UA has gained ground mainly because Siena has shot themselves in the foot. I will give UA credit for last year they had a big time season (still needed a miracle shot to get to the NCAAs) but the previous couple of years they were an average team who got hot to win their weak conference tournament. Close losses don't count - do you see Siena fans pumping their chests for taking Louisville down to the wire or Purdue in the Big 3's last game?
If Siena was in the AE when Fran was the coach Siena would have went to the NCAA tournament five straight years. Yes UA has appeared in only one less NCAA in 23 years less time in D1 but you have to look at the competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 8:40:35 GMT -5
Having UConn on the ropes, hanging with Oklahoma, same with Florida two years ago. Dont know why you're saying that they were never close to one. And they won at Washington three years ago. And all that is ignoring the 5 NCAA appearances in 15 years as a D-1 team. Only one less than Siena whose been around for close to 40 years. Please-- UConn game you mean the greatest local game in NCAA history ..LOL the double digit loss , Florida another double digit loss - like I said not even close .. Oklahoma was a moral victory I guess only game that wasn't double digit loss 9 point loss - a game UA never had a lead and was behind 10 points or more most of the game--- these are your close game..LOL OK won at Washington --again nice win to crappy team not sure they even finished in top 100- you are reaching if that's the biggest wins you can come with- goes to show you how infrequently they beat teams with winning records And I'm not ignoring the NCAA appearances out of a weak conference- UA has done next to nothing in its history in out of conference - how dare you even compare that to Siena- not even close Albany's recents wins over Siena has more to do with Siena's weak teams than Albany's strength It's not like the MAAC is the ACC. Winning your conference is still tough at any level. And the truth is that UAlbany is winning more titles in a very short history as a D-1 school than Siena has with its 25 year head start. I dont even know why you're so afraid of UAlbany. Its not like you even went to Siena. Its good for the area to have two good programs to follow and support. I figured as big of a basketball fan like you that you'd be happy to see the other local team succeed.
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Post by $cott on Jun 30, 2015 9:18:40 GMT -5
So for anyone who cares about the math, even ignoring the two up games, Siena is giving two road games (one at Albany and one at TBD) for two home games against Albany, this is really a pretty bad deal. I think your math is wrong. If the series with Albany were not continued, Siena would be short a game for each of the next two seasons (I will deal with 2017-18 later). Had we scheduled Harvard, that would be a home-and-home, so we are not giving up anything the first two years that we wouldn't give up if the series were to stop. The third year we get the home game as part of a four game, exempt event. It is a 15th home game, something we have not had in a number of years. An exempt event with one home game when that game is likely to draw 10,000+ is a lot better than an exempt event with no home game, like we have in 2015-16. I think the real math is that we are getting two home games vs. Albany in 2015-16 and 2017-18 and an extra home game in 2017-18 for a road game at Albany in 2016-17 and a road game TBD in 2017-18. The extra home game in 2017-2018 is going to be offset by playing a return game so if you want to factor that in then we are still getting a 3 for 3 deal. Fact is, this is not a 2 for 1 like it was portrayed because Siena has to be play a road game against TBD to get Albany a home game against TBD. Albany has to go all the way to the TUC where all their fans can go to the game anyways and get a free home game for that "sacrifice". The extra home game in an exempt event is great but would have been a way better deal if Siena and Albany ponied up some cash for the right to both host the TBD team in the TUC. Then Siena would have gotten two extra home games.
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Post by gorvy on Jun 30, 2015 11:31:38 GMT -5
Personally I don't think now is the time to compare what Albany has or hasn't done to Siena when our record is so poor. Let's beat them on the court and win some games first.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 11:46:48 GMT -5
Personally I don't think now is the time to compare what Albany has or hasn't done to Siena when our record is so poor. Let's beat them on the court and win some games first. Agreed. Clean up our house first before we start throwing stones at a school that's actually winning titles. There is a difference - we are just throwing the stones back that come crashing in from those unaccustomed to winning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 11:49:56 GMT -5
Agreed. Clean up our house first before we start throwing stones at a school that's actually winning titles. There is a difference - we are just throwing the stones back that come crashing in from those unaccustomed to winning. Hey I wouldn't be opposed to Patsos going halfies on a hotel in Australia with Brown if it'll get us a few more wins.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 11:54:35 GMT -5
There is a difference - we are just throwing the stones back that come crashing in from those unaccustomed to winning. Hey I wouldn't be opposed to Patsos going halfies on a hotel in Australia with Brown if it'll get us a few more wins. Har har har. The old UAlbany Australia joke. So cliché. Can't you be a little more aboriginal?
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Jun 30, 2015 12:14:06 GMT -5
Hey I wouldn't be opposed to Patsos going halfies on a hotel in Australia with Brown if it'll get us a few more wins. Har har har. The old UAlbany Australia joke. So cliché. Can't you be a little more aboriginal? It's a boomerang joke - it always comes back around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 12:23:12 GMT -5
Har har har. The old UAlbany Australia joke. So cliché. Can't you be a little more aboriginal? It's a boomerang joke - it always comes back around. That joke needs polish. You should take it outback and work on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 12:52:41 GMT -5
Hey I wouldn't be opposed to Patsos going halfies on a hotel in Australia with Brown if it'll get us a few more wins. Har har har. The old UAlbany Australia joke. So cliché. Can't you be a little more aboriginal? Sorry, didn't mean to look like a dingo.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Jun 30, 2015 13:42:13 GMT -5
It's a boomerang joke - it always comes back around. That joke needs polish. You should take it outback and work on it. I don't really have the patience to Foster it to that level.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 14:03:41 GMT -5
That joke needs polish. You should take it outback and work on it. I don't really have the patience to Foster it to that level. That's just wrong man. You need to nurture it like a baby Australian person.
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