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Post by IndianSaint on Apr 25, 2015 23:16:05 GMT -5
LOL, you know at least 1 or 2 of you are scurrying to check if you made some sarcastic comments in the thread when he was positively leaving, and trying to either delete or edit them:) I'm not going to edit mine. IF he decided to go to Bonnard, we'll still kick their butt. I'd make that comment regardless if he went there or not.
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Post by james on Apr 26, 2015 8:54:09 GMT -5
With JO's emergence late in the season as a scoring option it opened up for our outside shooters.His appearance in the paint for the Saints next season would most assuredly help our incoming class create more space for themselves and others.I,also was dissapointed when my favorite player(MO WHITE)decided to transfer.As far as JO is concerned I would take him back in a heartbeat!GO SAINTS!!
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Post by orange77 on Apr 26, 2015 9:14:08 GMT -5
I would love to see JO come back, he improved so much and has even more potential to develop.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 26, 2015 9:19:03 GMT -5
Well apparently he is definitely leaving because his best friend white is definitely leaving, and it is the only reason he is gone per junkie Poor logic on your part here.
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Post by th24 on Apr 26, 2015 9:19:22 GMT -5
I would love to see JO come back, he improved so much and has even more potential to develop. I totally agree!!
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Post by indian82 on Apr 26, 2015 9:20:38 GMT -5
I would love to see JO come back, he improved so much and has even more potential to develop. Same here. Would love to see JO reconsider and stay.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 26, 2015 9:39:35 GMT -5
Well apparently he is definitely leaving because his best friend white is definitely leaving, and it is the only reason he is gone per junkie Aren't you the one that called him, "sheltered" and "quiet?" So how do you think that works with JP's coaching style? I don't think he likes JP. Thought that was pretty obvious when he walked off the floor and into the locker room that one game after a tongue lashing. White leaving made his decision for him. I'd let him walk. Take him back, and I could easily see a December exit. I want kids that want to be here, not change their mind every two weeks.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 26, 2015 10:06:22 GMT -5
Well apparently he is definitely leaving because his best friend white is definitely leaving, and it is the only reason he is gone per junkie Aren't you the one that called him, "sheltered" and "quiet?" So how do you think that works with JP's coaching style? I don't think he likes JP. Thought that was pretty obvious when he walked off the floor and into the locker room that one game after a tongue lashing. White leaving made his decision for him. I'd let him walk. Take him back, and I could easily see a December exit. I want kids that want to be here, not change their mind every two weeks. You've definitely got a point. Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope if he decides to stay he and JP have a heart to heart and they both adjust their attitudes & actions towards each other. JP shoulod realize that diferent kids need/use different motivation, while JO learns that he will have bosses in the futuree he may not always get along with but may have to. And think back to the teachers you ended up respecting, if not liking, the most some period of time later. Usually the ones who pushed you and that you didn't agree with or like at the time.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 26, 2015 10:07:16 GMT -5
Well apparently he is definitely leaving because his best friend white is definitely leaving, and it is the only reason he is gone per junkie Aren't you the one that called him, "sheltered" and "quiet?" So how do you think that works with JP's coaching style? I don't think he likes JP. Thought that was pretty obvious when he walked off the floor and into the locker room that one game after a tongue lashing. White leaving made his decision for him. I'd let him walk. Take him back, and I could easily see a December exit. I want kids that want to be here, not change their mind every two weeks. This is a good point. You have to have believers on your team. I'd like to see him back, but I have reservations regarding his attitude. He's a young kid in the spotlight, I'm sure he regrets things he's done just like all of us do for the things we did when we were his age. Hopefully he's matured and hopefully he comes back.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 26, 2015 10:11:36 GMT -5
Aren't you the one that called him, "sheltered" and "quiet?" So how do you think that works with JP's coaching style? I don't think he likes JP. Thought that was pretty obvious when he walked off the floor and into the locker room that one game after a tongue lashing. White leaving made his decision for him. I'd let him walk. Take him back, and I could easily see a December exit. I want kids that want to be here, not change their mind every two weeks. You've definitely got a point. Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope if he decides to stay he and JP have a heart to heart and they both adjust their attitudes & actions towards each other. JP shoulod realize that diferent kids need/use different motivation, while JO learns that he will have bosses in the futuree he may not always get along with but may have to. And think back to the teachers you ended up respecting, if not liking, the most some period of time later. Usually the ones who pushed you and that you didn't agree with or like at the time. Would you have asked Fran to adjust his attitude toward a player? It's a team sport, and right now it's JP's team and JO should adjust to his coach's style and demeanor, not the other way around. I think it builds resentment between players when they are treated differently by their coach.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 10:26:40 GMT -5
You've definitely got a point. Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope if he decides to stay he and JP have a heart to heart and they both adjust their attitudes & actions towards each other. JP shoulod realize that diferent kids need/use different motivation, while JO learns that he will have bosses in the futuree he may not always get along with but may have to. And think back to the teachers you ended up respecting, if not liking, the most some period of time later. Usually the ones who pushed you and that you didn't agree with or like at the time. Would you have asked Fran to adjust his attitude toward a player? It's a team sport, and right now it's JP's team and JO should adjust to his coach's style and demeanor, not the other way around. I think it builds resentment between players when they are treated differently by their coach. I agree with this. Haven't you people ever seen Remember the Titans? You're killing me Petey.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 10:47:01 GMT -5
You've definitely got a point. Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope if he decides to stay he and JP have a heart to heart and they both adjust their attitudes & actions towards each other. JP shoulod realize that diferent kids need/use different motivation, while JO learns that he will have bosses in the futuree he may not always get along with but may have to. And think back to the teachers you ended up respecting, if not liking, the most some period of time later. Usually the ones who pushed you and that you didn't agree with or like at the time. Would you have asked Fran to adjust his attitude toward a player? It's a team sport, and right now it's JP's team and JO should adjust to his coach's style and demeanor, not the other way around. I think it builds resentment between players when they are treated differently by their coach. I don't recall any of Marc Brown's teammates resenting the fact that he was treated differently by Mike - and Mike admitted to it. I think kids want each of their teammates to play the best they can as part of the team and if that requires different handling so be it. I do agree with HJ - if you don't want to be here then go and don't look back. Taking recruiting visits is a bit more of a statement than Evan's vacillating last year. Amazing how a comment about the door still being open has blossomed into almost penciling JO back into the starting lineup and he hasn't uttered a word on the subject.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 26, 2015 11:01:19 GMT -5
You've definitely got a point. Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope if he decides to stay he and JP have a heart to heart and they both adjust their attitudes & actions towards each other. JP shoulod realize that diferent kids need/use different motivation, while JO learns that he will have bosses in the futuree he may not always get along with but may have to. And think back to the teachers you ended up respecting, if not liking, the most some period of time later. Usually the ones who pushed you and that you didn't agree with or like at the time. Would you have asked Fran to adjust his attitude toward a player? It's a team sport, and right now it's JP's team and JO should adjust to his coach's style and demeanor, not the other way around. I think it builds resentment between players when they are treated differently by their coach. Well, obviously JP is the 'boss' and he can't kowtow to individual players, but good coaches (and leaders overall) use different methods to motivate different personalities. I do not think that is unreasonable. (Plus I think many here are hoping he changes his attitude/tactics to some degree in general). If JO really is considering staying, then after a good heart to heart, hopefully they can come to a point where it works for both of them. It it doesn't for either of them, then they should part.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 26, 2015 11:07:21 GMT -5
Would you have asked Fran to adjust his attitude toward a player? It's a team sport, and right now it's JP's team and JO should adjust to his coach's style and demeanor, not the other way around. I think it builds resentment between players when they are treated differently by their coach. I don't recall any of Marc Brown's teammates resenting the fact that he was treated differently by Mike - and Mike admitted to it. I think kids want each of their teammates to play the best they can as part of the team and if that requires different handling so be it. I do agree with HJ - if you don't want to be here then go and don't look back. Taking recruiting visits is a bit more of a statement than Evan's vacillating last year. Amazing how a comment about the door still being open has blossomed into almost penciling JO back into the starting lineup and he hasn't uttered a word on the subject. I agree with just about everything here. Not sure if anybody is pencilling him in, just taking about that opportunity. It's what happens when a comment gets out and even worse in the internet age. I guess I will ask who made the comment?
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Post by Tony on Apr 26, 2015 11:07:32 GMT -5
I'd love to have JO back-- doubt he comes back -- JP saying the door is still open is a lot different than JO saying not sure I wanna go?
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