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Post by siena77 on Apr 1, 2015 16:16:38 GMT -5
If JP is the man and brings Siena back to the top, I wonder if folks like MP and green blood will truly enjoy it. I'm not picking on you guys, I really mean it, it's gotten so personal that I think you want him to fail. Just like it appears you want Lavon to fail. Success comes in many forms, JP is not the wall street fran type, he's more like the jerry Garcia type. I personally don't like his style, but if he wins, I'll find it totally endearing. You can put your money on it! I won't speak for greenblood or Misspractice, just for myself, though I don't doubt at all they wish the best for the school and the team. I would love to see Jimmy succeed, and Lavon even more so because of his youth. But, as KnickSaint just posted, I don't think Jimmy has represented the school well with his demeanor on the sidelines or (from what I hear) in practice. So, yes, I'd be happy to see winning basketball again, but I really think the administration needs to sit with him and insist that he behave more professionally. There are many, many coaches with class who also win big. Personally, my biggest fear is a big public issue resulting from Jimmy's lack of self-control. And I truly hope I'm wrong there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 16:19:05 GMT -5
If JP is the man and brings Siena back to the top, I wonder if folks like MP and green blood will truly enjoy it. I'm not picking on you guys, I really mean it, it's gotten so personal that I think you want him to fail. Just like it appears you want Lavon to fail. Success comes in many forms, JP is not the wall street fran type, he's more like the jerry Garcia type. I personally don't like his style, but if he wins, I'll find it totally endearing. You can put your money on it! I certainly don't want either to fail, I am after all a die hard SIENA fan - throwing Lavon in this mix is completely off the wall, my disgust with PPC has nothing to do with her son as I have repeatedly posted. She is an embarrassment and likely a contributor to the less than ideal team chemistry issues that seem to plague this team. I don't believe Patsos will succeed unless and until he makes some serious changes in his "endearing"nature (my fingers hurt just typing that!!!) and coaching style - it hasn't worked yet and I see nothing that you can hang a hat on that will change things. Just having talent isn't the answer - utilizing it is!
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Post by th24 on Apr 1, 2015 16:28:52 GMT -5
If JP is the man and brings Siena back to the top, I wonder if folks like MP and green blood will truly enjoy it. I'm not picking on you guys, I really mean it, it's gotten so personal that I think you want him to fail. Just like it appears you want Lavon to fail. Success comes in many forms, JP is not the wall street fran type, he's more like the jerry Garcia type. I personally don't like his style, but if he wins, I'll find it totally endearing. You can put your money on it! I certainly don't want either to fail, I am after all a die hard SIENA fan - throwing Lavon in this mix is completely off the wall, my disgust with PPC has nothing to do with her son as I have repeatedly posted. She is an embarrassment and likely a contributor to the less than ideal team chemistry issues that seem to plague this team. I don't believe Patsos will succeed unless and until he makes some serious changes in his "endearing"nature (my fingers hurt just typing that!!!) and coaching style - it hasn't worked yet and I see nothing that you can hang a hat on that will change things. Just having talent isn't the answer - utilizing it is! I find you to be an embarrassment to the board MP! *** edited by Tony any more name calling and you'll be banned Th24******
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 16:36:28 GMT -5
I think we should ban everyone except those whose signature is two identical consonants.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 1, 2015 16:40:59 GMT -5
If JP is the man and brings Siena back to the top, I wonder if folks like MP and green blood will truly enjoy it. I'm not picking on you guys, I really mean it, it's gotten so personal that I think you want him to fail. Just like it appears you want Lavon to fail. Success comes in many forms, JP is not the wall street fran type, he's more like the jerry Garcia type. I personally don't like his style, but if he wins, I'll find it totally endearing. You can put your money on it! I won't speak for greenblood or Misspractice, just for myself, though I don't doubt at all they wish the best for the school and the team. I would love to see Jimmy succeed, and Lavon even more so because of his youth. But, as KnickSaint just posted, I don't think Jimmy has represented the school well with his demeanor on the sidelines or (from what I hear) in practice. So, yes, I'd be happy to see winning basketball again, but I really think the administration needs to sit with him and insist that he behave more professionally. There are many, many coaches with class who also win big. Personally, my biggest fear is a big public issue resulting from Jimmy's lack of self-control. And I truly hope I'm wrong there. I almost wrote the exact same thing! You saved me some typing....
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Post by indian82 on Apr 1, 2015 16:42:57 GMT -5
I certainly don't want either to fail, I am after all a die hard SIENA fan - throwing Lavon in this mix is completely off the wall, my disgust with PPC has nothing to do with her son as I have repeatedly posted. She is an embarrassment and likely a contributor to the less than ideal team chemistry issues that seem to plague this team. I don't believe Patsos will succeed unless and until he makes some serious changes in his "endearing"nature (my fingers hurt just typing that!!!) and coaching style - it hasn't worked yet and I see nothing that you can hang a hat on that will change things. Just having talent isn't the answer - utilizing it is! I find you to be an embarrassment to the board MP! This last post shows you are a scumbag with no character! And furthermore call on Tony to ban your ass from this board! Huh? Not saying I agree with all of that, but what part of it was so despicable?
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Post by indian82 on Apr 1, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5
I think we should ban everyone except those whose signature is two identical consonants. Heretofore, refer to me as 'II'.
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Post by greenblood on Apr 1, 2015 16:45:25 GMT -5
If JP is the man and brings Siena back to the top, I wonder if folks like MP and green blood will truly enjoy it. I'm not picking on you guys, I really mean it, it's gotten so personal that I think you want him to fail. Just like it appears you want Lavon to fail. Success comes in many forms, JP is not the wall street fran type, he's more like the jerry Garcia type. I personally don't like his style, but if he wins, I'll find it totally endearing. You can put your money on it! \ It's not all about winning with me, and I have said that over and over again. So, let me set the record straight for you, clearly, once and for all. I NEVER thought JP was right for this program as it ascribes itself to be in the public eye. Is it somewhat personal? Perhaps, because I didn't want to start fresh after Mitch with a guy who would bring baggage and a reputation in the league to the program. The sideline antics alone were a red flag, but add the fact that he NEVER WON a big game by my recollection was also an area of concern. Add to that our fan base, if one is being honest always thinks we get hosed by the refs...so we hire a guy whose teams have a propensity to foul....and foul they do. We have ONE successful recruit and one marginal who are now going into their junior seasons after the first two years here. I say Lavon is marginal because it's hard to assess the 'brand' by all the edited video and propaganda surrounding him. According to his PR agent, I am too stupid to know what position he is playing when he on the floor. I support all the players on this team including LL equally and do not want any of them to fail. Further I am offended by your accusation that I would behave that way. I am not the person spewing all kinds of SHIT on this board, the BMORE board and the MAAC board about #haters, bullying other posters and getting people so frustrated that they stop contributing or caring because they just can't take it any more. This was a deal with the devil that this program is paying for...truth be told. Now, addressing our wonderful record last year.....I am SICK of game plans that have not been designed to play to the strengths of our team and pick apart weaknesses of opponents. Further, I am unimpressed with in game decisions and the inability to use (when we could have) Mo White and Jimmy Paige defensively to get key opponents in foul trouble when the opportunity arose. A great example of this strategy could be seen when Ali fouled out the tallest player during the semifinal game of the WBI which opened up the interior for our team. I have watched as the season progressed, Manning throw up his hands and throw down clipboards. At least he is involved in the game enough to get pissed off when things have gone south for a 7-10 minute stretch. Lou and Luke hardly say a word during games unless it's to console the player in the 'hot seat'. Wolfe gone, Cole gone, White gone, JO gone. And there is Cam Gottfried being played like a pawn in a chess game while our staff is being reported as offering additional 'conditional' scholarships. I won't even get into why it is that we are going to hear about tied hands due to the inability to secure a ready to go transfer. Seriously, we have fallen very, very far. So all of the show, all of the hype and all of the name dropping that never worked for me in the first place is now like an albatross around the neck of the program IMHO. I will be the first to say I am wrong when and if we return to the top. I hope for JP's sake that he does seriously reflect on where he is and where he is going with all of this. He looks unhealthy and stressed, again, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 16:45:48 GMT -5
I think we should ban everyone except those whose signature is two identical consonants. Heretofore, refer to me as 'II'. Heretofore, we shall refer to you as "he who doesn't know what a vowel is". Ha.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 1, 2015 16:51:20 GMT -5
Heretofore, refer to me as 'II'. Heretofore, we shall refer to you as "he who doesn't know what a vowel is". Ha. Damn! My second grade teacher always told me to read to the end. I was so excited I stopped when I got to the 'identical' part.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 16:53:31 GMT -5
Heretofore, we shall refer to you as "he who doesn't know what a vowel is". Ha. Damn! My second grade teacher always told me to read to the end. I was so excited I stopped when I got to the 'identical' part. Did she give you an FF?
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Post by Quackman on Apr 1, 2015 16:57:47 GMT -5
I think is you'll go back and check, I was not in favor of this hire in 2013, but not for the reasons most would think.
I like Patsos and liked him at Loyola. He hasn't done anything here that he didn't do there. Siena knew what they were getting when they hired him.
I was not in favor of the hire because I knew it would be controversial. Half the fan base was going to be against the hire before it was made because they didn't like him at Loyola and didn't like his style. We were starting to see similar posts last year before they went on the run to end the season. That won him the off season. But it was inevitable, that as soon as the team struggled the fan base would turn on him.
My guess is that they would have gone after Toole if not for the whispers about his practice behavior.
All that said, I still like Patsos and think he can do a good job at Siena. I am interested to see what happens next year. He needs Nico to be a stud for this team to be really good ... we'll see.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 1, 2015 17:16:47 GMT -5
I certainly don't want either to fail, I am after all a die hard SIENA fan - throwing Lavon in this mix is completely off the wall, my disgust with PPC has nothing to do with her son as I have repeatedly posted. She is an embarrassment and likely a contributor to the less than ideal team chemistry issues that seem to plague this team. I don't believe Patsos will succeed unless and until he makes some serious changes in his "endearing"nature (my fingers hurt just typing that!!!) and coaching style - it hasn't worked yet and I see nothing that you can hang a hat on that will change things. Just having talent isn't the answer - utilizing it is! I find you to be an embarrassment to the board MP! *** edited by Tony any more name calling and you'll be banned Th24****** Fairly new poster plays internet tough guy. MP writes a sincere post and he is ebtitked to his opinion. No need to attack him
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Post by gorvy on Apr 1, 2015 17:22:33 GMT -5
I think we should ban everyone except those whose signature is two identical consonants. Be careful what you wish for KK, or you and GG will be best buds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 17:28:03 GMT -5
I think we should ban everyone except those whose signature is two identical consonants. Be careful what you wish for KK, or you and GG will be best buds. Maybe we can get matching sweaters. No hanky panky though GG. I'm not giving you letterhead again.
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