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Post by ryan on Mar 16, 2022 15:04:26 GMT -5
Rumor is there are 2 assistants and another staff who are not staying! Carm is tough to work with.
Also heard kids will be entering portal..
Not good situation!
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Post by dawg on Mar 16, 2022 15:07:39 GMT -5
If this is true, and it appears unfounded and rumor right now, then the administration has to get involved and find out why such turnover with this staff and players. Will wait and see before passing judgment and deciding if I want to be a part of this program going forward as well.
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Post by class94 on Mar 16, 2022 15:11:03 GMT -5
If more than 1 assistant and/or more than 2 more players (in addition to Carp) leaves this offseason, there would be no more denying that there is a real problem.
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Post by $cott on Mar 16, 2022 15:21:44 GMT -5
If more than 1 assistant and/or more than 2 more players (in addition to Carp) leaves this offseason, there would be no more denying that there is a real problem. I doubt you will find many programs in the country that won't have at least 2 players leave with the new rules but if the rumors about the assistants are true then that is extremely worrisome. But I'm definitely in agreement that if every year is going to be starting over from scratch then I will look for other forms of entertainment.
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Post by orange77 on Mar 16, 2022 15:41:23 GMT -5
If more than 1 assistant and/or more than 2 more players (in addition to Carp) leaves this offseason, there would be no more denying that there is a real problem. I doubt you will find many programs in the country that won't have at least 2 players leave with the new rules but if the rumors about the assistants are true then that is extremely worrisome. But I'm definitely in agreement that if every year is going to be starting over from scratch then I will look for other forms of entertainment. I have no inside info as others seem to, but I am not excited by a couple of the younger local assistants we have and would welcome some more experienced replacements on par with Antoni Wyche, especially for helping the offense.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 16, 2022 15:53:21 GMT -5
If more than 1 assistant and/or more than 2 more players (in addition to Carp) leaves this offseason, there would be no more denying that there is a real problem. I doubt you will find many programs in the country that won't have at least 2 players leave with the new rules but if the rumors about the assistants are true then that is extremely worrisome. But I'm definitely in agreement that if every year is going to be starting over from scratch then I will look for other forms of entertainment. Not sure what assistant’s are leaving but I can’t say I was overly impressed with Wyche’s and Simon’s replacements. As far as transfers 2-3 more wouldn’t surprise me, as long as we keep Billups and McCollum in tact I think we can upgrade the roster. Carm needs to get an assistant in here that knows offense.
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Post by class94 on Mar 16, 2022 15:57:23 GMT -5
I doubt you will find many programs in the country that won't have at least 2 players leave with the new rules but if the rumors about the assistants are true then that is extremely worrisome. But I'm definitely in agreement that if every year is going to be starting over from scratch then I will look for other forms of entertainment. Not sure what assistant’s are leaving but I can’t say I was overly impressed with Wyche’s and Simon’s replacements. As far as transfers 2-3 more wouldn’t surprise me, as long as we keep Billups and McCollum in tact….. I am expecting 1 or 2 more transfers from players OUTSIDE our top 8 players. I don’t disagree that the current assistants haven't seemed particularly impressive however there is a lot to be said for continuity so I’d be fine with replacing one. More than one and it looks REALLY bad, particularly because that would mean 4+ assistants would have left in just 2 years.
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Post by $cott on Mar 16, 2022 16:13:42 GMT -5
I doubt you will find many programs in the country that won't have at least 2 players leave with the new rules but if the rumors about the assistants are true then that is extremely worrisome. But I'm definitely in agreement that if every year is going to be starting over from scratch then I will look for other forms of entertainment. Not sure what assistant’s are leaving but I can’t say I was overly impressed with Wyche’s and Simon’s replacements. As far as transfers 2-3 more wouldn’t surprise me, as long as we keep Billups and McCollum in tact I think we can upgrade the roster. Carm needs to get an assistant in here that knows offense. Is one thing if we are upgrading, is another if Carm is that hard to work with that the assistants are walking of their own free will. Going to be difficult to count on any assistants for recruiting if they are changing every year.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 16, 2022 16:29:46 GMT -5
Castagna was only here as a one year favor I heard. So him leaving wouldnt be a surprise. The JUCO guy seemed so random and out of left field, wouldnt shock me if he left. Fahey isnt gong anywhere.
With JC getting the axe, I wouldnt be surprised if Carm reaches out to a few of the GW assistants that Carm has previously worked with, and are out of work.
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Post by class94 on Mar 16, 2022 16:57:00 GMT -5
Castagna was only here as a one year favor I heard. So him leaving wouldnt be a surprise. The JUCO guy seemed so random and out of left field, wouldnt shock me if he left. Fahey isnt gong anywhere. With JC getting the axe, I wouldnt be surprised if Carm reaches out to a few of the GW assistants that Carm has previously worked with, and are out of work. Was the “JUCO guy” the one responsible for Martin? I am NOT an insider but it seems that 2 of the main criticisms of Carm are contradictory. On one hand, he gets criticized for his overvaluation of relationships and not treating college bball like enough of a business. On the other hand, he gets criticized for being “hard to work with.” While it is possible for both of those things to co-exist, it is unlikely as people that value relationships typically don’t tend to be assholes and assholes typically don’t put that much value on relationships. Just some food for thought.
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Post by orange77 on Mar 16, 2022 17:09:52 GMT -5
Castagna was only here as a one year favor I heard. So him leaving wouldnt be a surprise. The JUCO guy seemed so random and out of left field, wouldnt shock me if he left. Fahey isnt gong anywhere. With JC getting the axe, I wouldnt be surprised if Carm reaches out to a few of the GW assistants that Carm has previously worked with, and are out of work. If the JUCO guy is Marcus King, he's the one I'd hope stays. I liked his apparent interactions with players throughout games, whereas I never saw the other 2 young guys say a word.
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Post by MTS on Mar 16, 2022 18:04:47 GMT -5
If this is true, and it appears unfounded and rumor right now, then the administration has to get involved and find out why such turnover with this staff and players. Will wait and see before passing judgment and deciding if I want to be a part of this program going forward as well. Will dawg enter the fan transfer portal? Find out on our next episode!!
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Post by billmurray on Mar 16, 2022 18:23:27 GMT -5
Coaching staffs are just like rosters. If you can upgrade at any position you do so. That said, I would think that you should hire people you think can perform at a level one or two levels above their entry level. I recognize that is not easy to do as a first time head coach with no track record. That said I think Carm's initial staff had that capability, but for a variety of reasons they moved on, one of which was that they were totally qualified to do so.
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Post by diamonddog on Mar 16, 2022 18:45:08 GMT -5
Ugh. I just want continuity with the roster and coaches. If this stuff happens again, will there be accountability? Will DArg notice?
And pay the assistants, Siena.
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Post by siena7127 on Mar 16, 2022 18:53:16 GMT -5
Rumor is there are 2 assistants and another staff who are not staying! Carm is tough to work with. Also heard kids will be entering portal.. Not good situation! Well one assistant was a favor and a 1 year deal. As far as kids entering portal, I assumed carpenter(which happened) and a possible grad transfer. But if more happens it it would be news to me. This off-season will be fun.
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