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Post by warden99 on Sept 22, 2021 3:37:27 GMT -5
For many years Siena was a open program. The staff felt it important to keep the fan base informed. New philosophy is keep info in house and ignor the fan base. Young is a issue because he is an aggressive player with a temper. Some think it’s not consistent with Carm’s way. All of this will go away when the season “opens the doors” even a little bit. A little balance. Fans were important in the past. Unless you want a return to radio broadcasts. Maybe we will broadcaste in 2021. …? The new isolation will cost Siena lots of ticket sales.
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Quackman
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Post by Quackman on Sept 22, 2021 7:18:16 GMT -5
Not sure what you guys expect out of Carm. Platek is not part of the team and, as such, Carm can not discuss him.
Regarding Young, hope he stays. I actually think he is more talented than Stormo, or at least would be if he could control his emotions.
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Post by bigsaintg on Sept 22, 2021 7:27:56 GMT -5
I heard Young is just Restless and it will work out. Carm hired a performance coach named Victor Newman to help out
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OneIndian
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Post by OneIndian on Sept 22, 2021 7:36:24 GMT -5
I heard Young is just Restless and it will work out. Carm hired a performance coach named Victor Newman to help out 😉😂
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Post by indian82 on Sept 22, 2021 7:49:20 GMT -5
I heard Young is just Restless and it will work out. Carm hired a performance coach named Victor Newman to help out Haha! I had to google that to figure it out. I love it! This board needs more humor.
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IndianSaint
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Post by IndianSaint on Sept 22, 2021 8:33:52 GMT -5
I guess I’m reading it differently than those who assume something bad for Young. “ Siena’s supporting cast has been an integral part of the recent success for one of the MAAC’s flagship programs, as Stormo, Hopkins and Kyle Young all supplemented Pickett, Camper and King the past two seasons. Now, the former trio becomes a unit of leadership for the likes of Gaines, Colby Rogers and Jayce Johnson, with several others also primed to bring new looks and high-level basketball to the Times Union Center floor.” “ Now, the former trio becomes a unit of leadership for the likes of … .” Young is directly referenced as one of the three who’ll provide leadership. What am I missing? You decided to concentrate on the paragraph that is clearly the opinion of the author hand has no quotes from Carm. The paragraph before, and after, that paragraph have quotes from Carm, and he mentions 10 players.....none of which is his "returning" junior center Kyle Young. Carm knows whats really going on. The author knows as much as most of us on the board. Whatever they decide to share. It was t just that statement. Jaden also said Carm had “everyone” in practice during the summer session. Carm didn’t mention “any” last year “reserve” player who’s still on the team except for Carpenter because I’m assuming he’s now a starter. So dose that mean Young, Robert and Steve are all leaving since he didn’t mention any prior year “reserve” player? Carm did mention any/every new person to the team in addition to the three who I’m assuming he’s thinking are starters for this year. So, there was nothing said or not said that would lead me to think anyone currently listed on Siena’s roster is leaving before the season starts. Please provide any evidence which supports why people think he’s leaving. If Young leaves, I’d be surprised (unless addition info comes out to make me think otherwise). Personally, I too like Young and hope those who are starting that rumor are wrong.
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james
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Post by james on Sept 22, 2021 9:25:22 GMT -5
I certainly hope Kyle Young is not leaving Siena! He,s a very talented player who has to harness his emotions as he is a very forceful individual when he is on the court.With some guidance he could be an integral part of the puzzle moving forward.Go Kyle and Go SAINTS!!
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OneIndian
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Post by OneIndian on Sept 22, 2021 10:08:32 GMT -5
You decided to concentrate on the paragraph that is clearly the opinion of the author hand has no quotes from Carm. The paragraph before, and after, that paragraph have quotes from Carm, and he mentions 10 players.....none of which is his "returning" junior center Kyle Young. Carm knows whats really going on. The author knows as much as most of us on the board. Whatever they decide to share. It was t just that statement. Jaden also said Carm had “everyone” in practice during the summer session. Carm didn’t mention “any” last year “reserve” player who’s still on the team except for Carpenter because I’m assuming he’s now a starter. So dose that mean Young, Robert and Steve are all leaving since he didn’t mention any prior year “reserve” player? Carm did mention any/every new person to the team in addition to the three who I’m assuming he’s thinking are starters for this year. So, there was nothing said or not said that would lead me to think anyone currently listed on Siena’s roster is leaving before the season starts. Please provide any evidence which supports why people think he’s leaving. If Young leaves, I’d be surprised (unless addition info comes out to make me think otherwise). Personally, I too like Young and hope those who are starting that rumor are wrong. Sometimes it’s not about what you say, it’s more about what you don’t say. I like Kyle, he just needs to harness - channel his emotions a bit. We can always use a fiery kid.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 22, 2021 11:15:02 GMT -5
You decided to concentrate on the paragraph that is clearly the opinion of the author hand has no quotes from Carm. The paragraph before, and after, that paragraph have quotes from Carm, and he mentions 10 players.....none of which is his "returning" junior center Kyle Young. Carm knows whats really going on. The author knows as much as most of us on the board. Whatever they decide to share. Carm didn’t mention “any” last year “reserve” player who’s still on the team except for Carpenter because I’m assuming he’s now a starter. So dose that mean Young, Robert and Steve are all leaving since he didn’t mention any prior year “reserve” player? We have 4 returning players: Hopkins, Stormo, Carpenter and Young. When the HC only mentions 3 of them, and leaves out the LONGEST TENURED player (Young), in a very detailed MAAC preview, it's very telling.
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Post by pepbanddrumalum on Sept 22, 2021 11:36:18 GMT -5
Has nobody noticed that KY is MIA from the picture posted on the Platek thread?
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IndianSaint
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Post by IndianSaint on Sept 22, 2021 11:41:58 GMT -5
Carm didn’t mention “any” last year “reserve” player who’s still on the team except for Carpenter because I’m assuming he’s now a starter. So dose that mean Young, Robert and Steve are all leaving since he didn’t mention any prior year “reserve” player? We have 4 returning players: Hopkins, Stormo, Carpenter and Young. When the HC only mentions 3 of them, and leaves out the LONGEST TENURED player (Young), in a very detailed MAAC preview, it's very telling. We’ll, ok, if you say so. Robert’s the most tenured player and he was left out. I guess you’ll now argue that Robert’s a walk on and that doesn’t count. Forget about what Carm didn’t say during the interview. Please provide any evidence from any other MAAC Board poster that jives with Young leaving. I want evidence and not the lack of him mention as evidence.
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Post by billmurray on Sept 22, 2021 14:15:12 GMT -5
When you see his name removed from the roster it would be official. I hope Young stays the team is in need of all the capable bigs on the roster.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 22, 2021 14:38:56 GMT -5
We have 4 returning players: Hopkins, Stormo, Carpenter and Young. When the HC only mentions 3 of them, and leaves out the LONGEST TENURED player (Young), in a very detailed MAAC preview, it's very telling. We’ll, ok, if you say so. Robert’s the most tenured player and he was left out. I guess you’ll now argue that Robert’s a walk on and that doesn’t count. Forget about what Carm didn’t say during the interview. Please provide any evidence from any other MAAC Board poster that jives with Young leaving. I want evidence and not the lack of him mention as evidence. So you're a "smoking gun" guy? Need that "evidence." Dont have any. Didnt have any when I said Platek was joining our team either. You just listen to people that you trust, and that have the necessary connections which allow me to believe in things they tell me. Good, and bad. Sept 7th---Siena classes begin Sept 10th--MAAC preview author announces he'll be sitting down with Carm Mon. the 13th Sept 14th--I find out Kyle Young has not been on campus for weeks, and there's genuine concern he might not come back. Sept 17th--Preview on Siena comes out, and Young isnt mentioned...and yeah, I was looking for him TO BE mentioned so it would dispel the info I had gotten, not confirm it. Sept 20th--I find out KY is back on campus, but him playing is unlikely. It also has nothing to do Carm. So as of today, I do think there's a chance he plays, albeit a small one. Just my opinion. I hope Im wrong. Kyle needs to decide if he wants to play. The decision is still in his hands.
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Post by IndianSaint on Sept 22, 2021 17:25:01 GMT -5
We’ll, ok, if you say so. Robert’s the most tenured player and he was left out. I guess you’ll now argue that Robert’s a walk on and that doesn’t count. Forget about what Carm didn’t say during the interview. Please provide any evidence from any other MAAC Board poster that jives with Young leaving. I want evidence and not the lack of him mention as evidence. So you're a "smoking gun" guy? Need that "evidence." Dont have any. Didnt have any when I said Platek was joining our team either. You just listen to people that you trust, and that have the necessary connections which allow me to believe in things they tell me. Good, and bad. Sept 7th---Siena classes begin Sept 10th--MAAC preview author announces he'll be sitting down with Carm Mon. the 13th Sept 14th--I find out Kyle Young has not been on campus for weeks, and there's genuine concern he might not come back. Sept 17th--Preview on Siena comes out, and Young isnt mentioned...and yeah, I was looking for him TO BE mentioned so it would dispel the info I had gotten, not confirm it. Sept 20th--I find out KY is back on campus, but him playing is unlikely. It also has nothing to do Carm. So as of today, I do think there's a chance he plays, albeit a small one. Just my opinion. I hope Im wrong. Kyle needs to decide if he wants to play. The decision is still in his hands. Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware that he wasn’t on campus the first few weeks. Regarding AP I knew he was enrolled at Siena before it was in paper or public knowledge; so I was assuming he wouldn’t be enrolled if he wasn’t going to play. Do t know what the ncaa can deny for a grad student transfer but I’m sure they can think of something bad just because it’s Siena. 🙂
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Post by gorvy on Sept 22, 2021 17:38:43 GMT -5
So you're a "smoking gun" guy? Need that "evidence." Dont have any. Didnt have any when I said Platek was joining our team either. You just listen to people that you trust, and that have the necessary connections which allow me to believe in things they tell me. Good, and bad. Sept 7th---Siena classes begin Sept 10th--MAAC preview author announces he'll be sitting down with Carm Mon. the 13th Sept 14th--I find out Kyle Young has not been on campus for weeks, and there's genuine concern he might not come back. Sept 17th--Preview on Siena comes out, and Young isnt mentioned...and yeah, I was looking for him TO BE mentioned so it would dispel the info I had gotten, not confirm it. Sept 20th--I find out KY is back on campus, but him playing is unlikely. It also has nothing to do Carm. So as of today, I do think there's a chance he plays, albeit a small one. Just my opinion. I hope Im wrong. Kyle needs to decide if he wants to play. The decision is still in his hands. Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware that he wasn’t on campus the first few weeks. Regarding AP I knew he was enrolled at Siena before it was in paper or public knowledge; so I was assuming he wouldn’t be enrolled if he wasn’t going to play. Do t know what the ncaa can deny for a grad student transfer but I’m sure they can think of something bad just because it’s Siena. 🙂 you are better off just assuming everyone's going and then be pleasantly surprised if a few show up at tip-off.
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