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Post by billmurray on Apr 19, 2021 13:55:07 GMT -5
The the right options are available fill them. HJ's duo are good options, my only question is car Barry play at the pace Carm wants. If so make the offer, if not look for and equal or better option. The worse that can happen is we don't get takers from the guys we offer. If you don't recruit you don't have the possibility of improvement. More players equals more competition and better player development and game preparation. I'll believe that "uptempo" talk wen I see it happen What I love about Barry as a lead guard is his 3 pt shooting. '16-'17----45.5% '17-'18----44.2% '18-'19----44.5% '20-'21----45.3% Career----188 out of 421 for a 44.6% Have we ever had a kid shoot it that well and consistently?? That shooting percentage is what I liked when I saw him in the portal. We haven't seen that since Cantemessa and even he didn't have that career percentage.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 19, 2021 14:01:04 GMT -5
I'll believe that "uptempo" talk wen I see it happen What I love about Barry as a lead guard is his 3 pt shooting. '16-'17----45.5% '17-'18----44.2% '18-'19----44.5% '20-'21----45.3% Career----188 out of 421 for a 44.6% Have we ever had a kid shoot it that well and consistently?? That shooting percentage is what I liked when I saw him in the portal. We haven't seen that since Cantemessa and even he didn't have that career percentage. JC was actually better at 45.9%.....thats amazing!!
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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 19, 2021 14:30:52 GMT -5
That shooting percentage is what I liked when I saw him in the portal. We haven't seen that since Cantemessa and even he didn't have that career percentage. JC was actually better at 45.9%.....thats amazing!! He led the country one year in that category.......
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 19, 2021 14:35:17 GMT -5
Load the roster up, we always think we’re too deep until we’re not, happens like clockwork every year. I guarantee you’ll see the same issues we’ve seen in the past, injuries or an unexpected late departure(s).
My biggest concern going into next year is scoring. The loss of Jalen and Manny is huge. We have a MAJOR issue.
Really hope EJ Anosike signs and we can bring in an experienced PG who can produce. I agree that the kid from Dartmouth / Temple is intriguing....definitely a shooter with nice numbers from the perimeter and charity stripe.
As the roster stands I think we can get better by making a couple of well thought out moves. This isn’t a spot where we need to be taking just anybody.
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Post by billmurray on Apr 19, 2021 14:53:54 GMT -5
That shooting percentage is what I liked when I saw him in the portal. We haven't seen that since Cantemessa and even he didn't have that career percentage. JC was actually better at 45.9%.....thats amazing!! Yeah, I didn't check the stats before I posted that. One year he shot over 56% and his worst was 38% on the a similar amount of career attempts per game as Barry. No doubting both are elite shooters. An asset to any team for sure.
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Post by class94 on Apr 19, 2021 15:24:42 GMT -5
That current 12 man group doesnt beat Iona IMO. Two more guys that are older and experienced would get us to where we need to be. I agree with the first part of this but the 2nd part is not necessarily the case. Nick Hopkins is an older, more experienced player who is a good player. We would all agree on that. Bringing in another Hopkins level player however (who is good, older and more experienced) would still not, IMO, push us to where we need to be and could easily result in AC or JM bolting. Not worth it. If we bring in another guard, it MUST be somebody good enough to push us past Iona or else the risk of either losing or impairing the development of AC and JM just isn’t worth it to me.
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Post by Quackman on Apr 19, 2021 15:30:38 GMT -5
Fill the spots but only with can’t miss/difference makers not fillers. I’ll be surprised if they use the 14th spot due to $$.
No one is transferring out after July 1st as they would have to sit out next year. Once that hits the roster will be pretty much settled outside of injuries or “issues” that result in someone being asked to leave.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by joesiena on Apr 19, 2021 15:33:51 GMT -5
We all know we have 2 schollys left, and theres some debate whether we should use them or not. I vote YES, after seeing how much it cost us last year with departures and injuries. Why would you only put 4 bullets in a 6 shooter? We need all hands on deck, and options galore. Here's my starting 5 and depth chart TODAY with 12 players: PG: Carpenter, McCollum 2G: Hopkins, Rogers, Owens SF: Gaines, Billups PF: Golson, Johnson C: Stormo, Young, Arrington This 12 man group seems light on athletic size, and a lead guard with experience. Said it before, give me Brandan Barry (5th year) and EJ Anosike (5th year) and bring on the Evil Empire. I agree. I'm not so sure that's a top 4 MAAC team as currently constructed. Bring on the talented depth.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 19, 2021 15:43:40 GMT -5
Fill the spots but only with can’t miss/difference makers not fillers. I’ll be surprised if they use the 14th spot due to $$. No one is transferring out after July 1st as they would have to sit out next year. Once that hits the roster will be pretty much settled outside of injuries or “issues” that result in someone being asked to leave. Just my 2 cents. What $$$? Is really doesn’t cost us anything other than food or any insurance on players. One more kid in a classroom is free as is room
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Post by indian82 on Apr 19, 2021 15:48:38 GMT -5
Fill the spots but only with can’t miss/difference makers not fillers. I’ll be surprised if they use the 14th spot due to $$. No one is transferring out after July 1st as they would have to sit out next year. Once that hits the roster will be pretty much settled outside of injuries or “issues” that result in someone being asked to leave. Just my 2 cents. What $$$? Is really doesn’t cost us anything other than food or any insurance on players. One more kid in a classroom is free as is room Not exactly sure where you are going, but at the least that's tuition, room and board that would theoretically be paid by someone else, no?
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 19, 2021 16:12:11 GMT -5
What $$$? Is really doesn’t cost us anything other than food or any insurance on players. One more kid in a classroom is free as is room Not exactly sure where you are going, but at the least that's tuition, room and board that would theoretically be paid by someone else, no? You are assuming an opportunity cost which I am not. It doesn’t cost anyone to put one more body in a classroom and I guarantee Siena is not rejecting anyone because we have one more hoop player. I am sure they have a room available as well. Really the only true our the door costs to the school are food fans any medical costs associated with the player being there.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 19, 2021 17:13:32 GMT -5
Not exactly sure where you are going, but at the least that's tuition, room and board that would theoretically be paid by someone else, no? You are assuming an opportunity cost which I am not. It doesn’t cost anyone to put one more body in a classroom and I guarantee Siena is not rejecting anyone because we have one more hoop player. I am sure they have a room available as well. Really the only true our the door costs to the school are food fans any medical costs associated with the player being there. Understood.
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Post by musicman on Apr 19, 2021 17:15:50 GMT -5
We always seem to have an injury or two also which also makes me want to fill them. We had two walk in’s playing in key games this year Exactly. This is the main reason beyond a doubt we should fill the slots! I'm still having nightmares over our depleted roster last season! Well, at least, haunted memories. All kidding aside, with the volume of quality players out there, we should pick up at least one more solid and experienced player. With this new environment in college hoops you know we will be losing 2 maybe 3 players every year not even counting players that have used up their eligibility. Shame on Siena if they end up in a similar predicament like last season!
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Post by class94 on Apr 19, 2021 17:23:46 GMT -5
Well this isn’t last year. We have 12 legit ballers on the roster right now. With all respect to players like Harrison Curry and Bennett K, those guys were just not at the same level. It may be that Nick Hopkins, a valuable player at Belmont, is the worst player on this roster right now. Even if 2 or 3 players go down, we still have 9-10 legit ballers. I hope Carm does not fill those slots just to fill them with ok MAAC players. I’d rather leave them empty. As I’ve said, if he can find a real difference maker that wants to come, you grab him 100%. Just no need to bring in an average MAAC player. That doesn’t make us better and just impedes the development of talented frosh.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 19, 2021 17:27:30 GMT -5
Well this isn’t last year. We have 12 legit ballers on the roster right now. With all respect to players like Harrison Curry and Bennett K, those guys were just not at the same level. It may be that Nick Hopkins, a valuable player at Belmont, is the worst player on this roster right now. Even if 2 or 3 players go down, we still have 9-10 legit ballers. I hope Carm does not fill those slots just to fill them with ok MAAC players. I’d rather leave them empty. As I’ve said, if he can find a real difference maker that wants to come, you grab him 100%. Just no need to bring in an average MAAC player. That doesn’t make us better and just impedes the development of talented frosh. Of which some are freshman and some are sophomores, freshman can’t be counted on at least at the start of the year, they’re generally way too up and down. Get too many L’s hung on you to start & youre way behind the eight ball come tournament time! Totally different recruiting strategy with the no sit transfers. There’s no tomorrow.
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