MAAC Tournament 2021 mens central

[gorvy]

So what seed will Iona get in the tourney? Pitino bump to 13 seed?

[saints22]

Mar 12, 2021 22:07:38 GMT -5 gorvy said:

So what seed will Iona get in the tourney? Pitino bump to 13 seed?

Not so fast, gorvy. They have to get by FAIRFIELD first. 😳

This is crazy, crazy stuff.

[hoopjunkie]

Mar 9, 2021 19:54:27 GMT -5 IndianSaint said:

Why don’t the other MAAC men’s teams have radio link broadcasts of their tournament games like Siena has. I tried to go to Iona, Quinny, Manhattan and Fairfield’s team websites and none have listen to games like Siena has. Why is that?

The same reason most of them only draw 1000 fans at home games. No one cares.

[diamonddog]

Championship

Iona vs Fairfield

Saturday March 13th 4 pm ESPNU

[$cott]

Mar 12, 2021 22:07:38 GMT -5 gorvy said:

So what seed will Iona get in the tourney? Pitino bump to 13 seed?

Their NET was very close to Siena so I expect they will be in the same spot, likely a 14 but could wind up a 15. Fairfield would certainly be PIG bound.

[indian82]

Mar 13, 2021 10:35:40 GMT -5 $cott said:

Mar 12, 2021 22:07:38 GMT -5 gorvy said:

So what seed will Iona get in the tourney? Pitino bump to 13 seed?

Their NET was very close to Siena so I expect they will be in the same spot, likely a 14 but could wind up a 15. Fairfield would certainly be PIG bound.

I DO think Pitino's reputation gets him more leeway than Carm would have if he wins tonight. Let's not pretend the seedings ARE TOTALLY objective.

[saintsfan12]

I haven't been following other conferences but they seem like the definition of a 16 seed, maybe 15 pending other conferences

[$cott]

Mar 13, 2021 10:41:12 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Mar 13, 2021 10:35:40 GMT -5 $cott said:

Their NET was very close to Siena so I expect they will be in the same spot, likely a 14 but could wind up a 15. Fairfield would certainly be PIG bound.

I DO think Pitino's reputation gets him more leeway than Carm would have if he wins tonight. Let's not pretend the seedings ARE TOTALLY objective.

People love to say this but can you show me actual examples? Lunardi had an excerpt from his book on ESPN.com the other day discussing this and how people always assume him and the committee are manufacturing matchups but that it is never actually the case, people are just very good at creating storylines for the matchups that occur naturally.

[indian82]

Mar 13, 2021 10:51:48 GMT -5 $cott said:

Mar 13, 2021 10:41:12 GMT -5 indian82 said:

I DO think Pitino's reputation gets him more leeway than Carm would have if he wins tonight. Let's not pretend the seedings ARE TOTALLY objective.

People love to say this but can you show me actual examples? Lunardi had an excerpt from his book on ESPN.com the other day discussing this and how people always assume him and the committee are manufacturing matchups but that it is never actually the case, people are just very good at creating storylines for the matchups that occur naturally.

Nope. Not worth researching. I said I THINK. I know there's been controversies and questions in the past. I'm not saying they don't do their best but it is DEFINITELY subjective. Until is it is TOTALLY objective - based STRICTLY on numbers - not sure anybody can say otherwise. And if there's a tie or really close and it comes down to Rick Pitino or a random coach from a lesser league, it is MY opinion they will go with the more influential name. We can disagree - it's not a big deal and not that worth it to me.

[$cott]

Mar 13, 2021 11:56:00 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Mar 13, 2021 10:51:48 GMT -5 $cott said:

People love to say this but can you show me actual examples? Lunardi had an excerpt from his book on ESPN.com the other day discussing this and how people always assume him and the committee are manufacturing matchups but that it is never actually the case, people are just very good at creating storylines for the matchups that occur naturally.

Nope. Not worth researching. I said I THINK. I know there's been controversies and questions in the past. I'm not saying they don't do their best but it is DEFINITELY subjective. Until is it is TOTALLY objective - based STRICTLY on numbers - not sure anybody can say otherwise. And if there's a tie or really close and it comes down to Rick Pitino or a random coach from a lesser league, it is MY opinion they will go with the more influential name. We can disagree - it's not a big deal and not that worth it to me.

Here is the article if you are interested. Long story short, with everything else the committee has to worry about they would only make their job more difficult if they started to consider off the court issues and manufacture matchups:

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31010114/debunking-ncaa-tournament-myths-why-committee-really-care-playing-your-rival

[gorvy]

Mar 13, 2021 11:56:00 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Mar 13, 2021 10:51:48 GMT -5 $cott said:

People love to say this but can you show me actual examples? Lunardi had an excerpt from his book on ESPN.com the other day discussing this and how people always assume him and the committee are manufacturing matchups but that it is never actually the case, people are just very good at creating storylines for the matchups that occur naturally.

Nope. Not worth researching. I said I THINK. I know there's been controversies and questions in the past. I'm not saying they don't do their best but it is DEFINITELY subjective. Until is it is TOTALLY objective - based STRICTLY on numbers - not sure anybody can say otherwise. And if there's a tie or really close and it comes down to Rick Pitino or a random coach from a lesser league, it is MY opinion they will go with the more influential name. We can disagree - it's not a big deal and not that worth it to me.

I see it as part of our right to root for the underdog. You just know it when you see it.

[MTS]

Mar 13, 2021 12:06:50 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Mar 13, 2021 11:56:00 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Nope. Not worth researching. I said I THINK. I know there's been controversies and questions in the past. I'm not saying they don't do their best but it is DEFINITELY subjective. Until is it is TOTALLY objective - based STRICTLY on numbers - not sure anybody can say otherwise. And if there's a tie or really close and it comes down to Rick Pitino or a random coach from a lesser league, it is MY opinion they will go with the more influential name. We can disagree - it's not a big deal and not that worth it to me.

I see it as part of our right to root for the underdog. You just know it when you see it.

Iona will be a #15 seed and play #2 Iowa. Fran will get revenge on Slick Rick for keeping Siena out of the Sweet 16 in 2009.