MAAC seeding with the SIX win teams

[hoopsforever]

There is a cluster of teams with just 6 wins (Iona, Canisius, Fairfield, and Quinnipiac) and one with 5 wins - the Jaspers (below them all is 4 win Rider)

So, looking at the mini-conference concept of the four teams with 6 wins:

Canisius - has a record of 3-1 vs. the mini conference ( 2 wins vs. Quinny and a split with FF)
Fairfield - has a record of 3-3 vs. the mini conference ( split with Iona, Quinny, and Canisius)
Quinny - has a record of 2-3 vs. the mini conference (split with FF, lost twice to Canisius, and defeated Iona)
Iona - has a record of 1-2 vs. the mini conference (split with FF and a loss to Quinny)

Manhattan has 5 wins and they split with Quinny and with Iona ( should they join the mini conference by picking up one win over these next two weekends.)

Who Do They Play?

Canisius - plays Niagara and Siena twice each
Fairfield - plays the Jaspers 2 times
Quinny - plays the Red Foxes twice and St. Peters twice
Iona - is done
Manhattan - plays Siena and Fairfield twice each

So, IF Manhattan can pick up a 6th win over the next two weekends and join the mini conference, it would be likely that Iona would fall to be a 10 seed (which is what someone said the Gael fans are predicting), but lots could change (including who they play if another team goes on pause!)

MTS - please check my data, as I know you are on top of all of this!!!!

[gorvy]

Iona could finish last if rider goes 3-1 in games against St. Peter's and monmouth.

[$cott]

Feb 25, 2021 4:23:53 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Iona could finish last if rider goes 3-1 in games against St. Peter's and monmouth.

Better chance of Iona playing their remaining games with Pitino suiting up and taking on his opponents 1 on 5 than of Rider winning 3 of those 4.

[gorvy]

Feb 25, 2021 10:58:37 GMT -5 $cott said:

Feb 25, 2021 4:23:53 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Iona could finish last if rider goes 3-1 in games against St. Peter's and monmouth.

Better chance of Iona playing their remaining games with Pitino suiting up and taking on his opponents 1 on 5 than of Rider winning 3 of those 4.

This is the maac, you know better than that.

[$cott]

Feb 25, 2021 11:03:55 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Feb 25, 2021 10:58:37 GMT -5 $cott said:

Better chance of Iona playing their remaining games with Pitino suiting up and taking on his opponents 1 on 5 than of Rider winning 3 of those 4.

This is the maac, you know better than that.

Normally I would agree but the Quinnipiac series sure makes it look like Rider has already checked out on the season.

[gorvy]

Rider lost to Iona twice so likely they would need to get to 7 to pass Iona. Was it just last year (year before?) that all teams could have finished 10-10 absurdly late into the season.

[hoopsforever]

This is complex. I just reviewed the MAAC's tie-breaking system, and if I am reading it correctly, they use the "mini conference" concept with the number of wins determining a winner and ties in that mini-conference being broken by records vs. highest seeded teams.

So, IF - the four teams with 6 wins finish the season with 6 wins (meaning Siena beats Canisius twice, the Jaspers beat Fairfield twice and leapfrog the six win teams, and Quinny loses at Marist and twice to St. Peters) - so if that happens,

Within the mini conference, Canisius would have 3 wins, Fairfield would have 3 wins, Quinny would have 2 wins, and Iona would have 1 win.

So, that would mean Canisius and Fairfield would be the 7 and 8 seeds (depending on that tie-breaker), Quinny would be the 9 seed, and Iona would be the 10 seed (with Rider the 11 seed if the Hawks beat them twice next weekend.)

Simple, right???

[hoopsforever]

The best case scenario for Iona is if Rider can pull off an upset of the Hawks and move into the 6 win mini-conference, as Iona beat the Broncs twice, raising their win total in the mini-conference to 3.

[gorvy]

Two upsets and Iona finishes last. Hey rider has won 3 out of the last four half's of basketball so they could still go 3-1