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Post by Tony on Jun 3, 2020 5:32:23 GMT -5
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Post by glen on Jun 3, 2020 11:00:11 GMT -5
Yup. It did for Mike, Paul, Fran, Jamion and now Carm.
I hope our AD can start to see the common thread.
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Post by Sienafan on Jun 3, 2020 11:47:30 GMT -5
Carm did a great job this season winning the MAAC in his first season as a head coach. But I'd temper any declaration of easy early success. While the early returns suggest that he has what it takes to be a success, there are some caveats here. He did it with mostly with other people's players. I remind you that Mitch Bonaguro and Steve Masiello each have two MAAC titles earned with their predecessor's players. Once their predecessors' players departed, their true ability became apparent and both tanked. Carm still has some work to do to establish he can win with his own players going forward in a post-Burns, Camper and Pickett era. Guys like Harris and Carpenter appear to suggest he's got that covered too. We'll see what his first full recruiting class as a head coach looks like when the incoming frosh suit up. That will be very telling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 11:52:51 GMT -5
I really like Carpenter, BK and Golson as far as their future potential.
I just want upper classman BK and Golson sooner, rather than later.
Harris, I like as a defensive glue guy long term. It remains to be seen how much he will develop on offense.
If Carpenter is great, the pieces should fall into place for the future. If he isn't, then there's a lot of work to do.
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Post by $cott on Jun 3, 2020 12:07:02 GMT -5
Carm did a great job this season winning the MAAC in his first season as a head coach. But I'd temper any declaration of easy early success. While the early returns suggest that he has what it takes to be a success, there are some caveats here. He did it with mostly with other people's players. I remind you that Mitch Bonaguro and Steve Masiello each have two MAAC titles earned with their predecessor's players. Once their predecessors' players departed, their true ability became apparent and both tanked. Carm still has some work to do to establish he can win with his own players going forward in a post-Burns, Camper and Pickett era. Guys like Harris and Carpenter appear to suggest he's got that covered too. We'll see what his first full recruiting class as a head coach looks like when the incoming frosh suit up. That will be very telling. And let's not forget that Patsos won a national title in his first year with both inherited players AND a great freshman class. I'm extremely confident in Carm especially given that he has already shown he can learn from mistakes but we can't get too caught up in one year. Let's see continued success so we can move on to worrying about what Power 6 conference might want to interview him instead of whether his a great coach. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Jun 3, 2020 12:49:26 GMT -5
Carm did a great job this season winning the MAAC in his first season as a head coach. But I'd temper any declaration of easy early success. While the early returns suggest that he has what it takes to be a success, there are some caveats here. He did it with mostly with other people's players. I remind you that Mitch Bonaguro and Steve Masiello each have two MAAC titles earned with their predecessor's players. Once their predecessors' players departed, their true ability became apparent and both tanked. Carm still has some work to do to establish he can win with his own players going forward in a post-Burns, Camper and Pickett era. Guys like Harris and Carpenter appear to suggest he's got that covered too. We'll see what his first full recruiting class as a head coach looks like when the incoming frosh suit up. That will be very telling. not to rain on your take (or parade), but you do realize that ALL the players on the roster except Camper & Friday were either recruited by Carm or that Carm was on the staff with Jamion as the head coach.............so I am not sure the total validity of your point here....................and this is not to say that Carm cannot improve but just that without question he is already winning now with HIS players..............just sayin'  |
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Post by gorvy on Jun 3, 2020 13:05:49 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game.
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Post by orange77 on Jun 3, 2020 13:13:03 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Point taken, but the last regular season game vs Monmouth was for the league title and he won that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 13:39:32 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Can't ignore the fact that he is undefeated in the MAAC Tournament and has not yet lost a championship game |
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Post by gorvy on Jun 3, 2020 13:41:00 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Can't ignore the fact that he is undefeated in the MAAC Tournament and has not yet lost a championship game Nope, not at all. Riding 10 game winning streak too. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Jun 3, 2020 13:47:54 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Can't ignore the fact that he is undefeated in the MAAC Tournament and has not yet lost a championship game and how about a perfect home record as well......................... |
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Post by greengold4ever on Jun 3, 2020 14:24:43 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Point taken, but the last regular season game vs Monmouth was for the league title and he won that one. and that game, was likely our best game all year............on the road, with all that on the line to secure the # 1 seed and the regular season title (and auto NIT bid)...........they completed destroyed Monmouth (and that whiny biotch King Rice) on their home floor...........if anything, Carm had this teams playing their best basketball down the stetch, they were poised to cut down the nets..................best thing is that if you listen to him & the players now, they understand they have "unfinished business" that they were not allowed to complete because of this pandemic, so their is no complacency or sense of entitlement for this season, they are planning on finishing the job they started last season, and no team in the MAAC is going to sneak up on them as they won't look past any of them................ |
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Post by musicman on Jun 3, 2020 14:39:13 GMT -5
Point taken, but the last regular season game vs Monmouth was for the league title and he won that one. and that game, was likely our best game all year............on the road, with all that on the line to secure the # 1 seed and the regular season title (and auto NIT bid)...........they completed destroyed Monmouth (and that whiny biotch King Rice) on their home floor...........if anything, Carm had this teams playing their best basketball down the stetch, they were poised to cut down the nets..................best thing is that if you listen to him & the players now, they understand they have "unfinished business" that they were not allowed to complete because of this pandemic, so their is no complacency or sense of entitlement for this season, they are planning on finishing the job they started last season, and no team in the MAAC is going to sneak up on them as they won't look past any of them................ All these positive comments are music to my ears! (no pun intended)  |
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Post by MTS on Jun 3, 2020 15:32:15 GMT -5
As sad as this is, he still has to prove he can win a championship game. Never got the chance. Did win that game at Monmouth in dominating fashion to win the regular season championship. I agree with the above Carm had a great first year but we shouldn’t put him in Springfield just yet. But he also had a big part as the top assistant in 18-19 rebounding a mess and transitioned seemingly as HC and got better as the season went on which is a great sign! Next year we will be expecting to win both the regular season and tournament championships. More pressure on Carm for sure but I’m confident he’s up for it. |
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Post by gorvy on Jun 3, 2020 15:38:34 GMT -5
Agreed!
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