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Post by MTS on May 6, 2020 11:20:29 GMT -5
Solid replacement for Friday. Upside is that he’s more energetic and looks to have good body control around the hoop. His perimeter game is a non-factor for me, that’s not what we need him to be....run the Pickett n roll, make use of your touches/looks and make FT’s. That’s the thing he’s a depth guy. You’re not going to replace Burns fully. You go by committee at center. This team is built on our guard play which should be outstanding. Manny/Tate at the 4 and Young/Curry/Golson at the 5. Tate can probably also play some 5. BK is a wildcard - anything we get out of him this year is a bonus.
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Post by OneIndian on May 6, 2020 11:28:55 GMT -5
Solid replacement for Friday. Upside is that he’s more energetic and looks to have good body control around the hoop. His perimeter game is a non-factor for me, that’s not what we need him to be....run the Pickett n roll, make use of your touches/looks and make FT’s. That’s the thing he’s a depth guy. You’re not going to replace Burns fully. You go by committee at center. This team is built on our guard play which should be outstanding. Manny/Tate at the 4 and Young/Curry/Golson at the 5. Tate can probably also play some 5. BK is a wildcard - anything we get out of him this year is a bonus. Unless we’re going small Golson is 6 5 and a fraction, I see him more as a 4 that plays around the hoop and not a post up 5 type kid .... think Alex Franklin type.
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Post by Quackman on May 6, 2020 11:33:31 GMT -5
I am not going to rule out the kid shooting from the outside. They (Detroit) recruited him to fit their system, which means he probably was someone seen to be able hit some shots. If the offense doesn't produce open looks, it makes great shooters look like good shooters and good shooters look inept. That said, I still think Young is the short and long term answer at the 5. This kid provides depth and options. Plus allows Tate to play at his position, and Golson/BK the time needed to develop without being thrown to the wolves. If the kid shoots 7 for 20 on the season we should be thrilled, will force teams to pay attention to him on the outside which is an added dimension over Sammy. If he's shooting more than that and at a lower percentage then he's not helping. I agree. I am not saying the kid is a shooter, I am saying that the kid will come into the program and have the opportunity to show what he is capable of. Burns hit a total of 2 3 pointers before transferring into Siena in 44 games at ND. Degnan had hit 20 of 62 at FF. (32%) Both of them got to play with Pickett and their 3 point production/efficiency increased substantially. I am not equating this kid to them, just pointing out what a change of venue, offensive playing style and point guard can result in.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:34:29 GMT -5
That’s the thing he’s a depth guy. You’re not going to replace Burns fully. You go by committee at center. This team is built on our guard play which should be outstanding. Manny/Tate at the 4 and Young/Curry/Golson at the 5. Tate can probably also play some 5. BK is a wildcard - anything we get out of him this year is a bonus. Unless we’re going small Golson is 6 5 and a fraction, I see him more as a 4 that plays around the hoop and not a post up 5 type kid .... think Alex Franklin type. We have Camper. His rebounding changes everything and makes the team more flexible. As long as Golson rebounds and defends, you can play them both together in the MAAC. Maybe not the ACC but the MAAC yes...as long as he produces. Haddix was a 6-6 center. If you had a Camper/Haddix frontcourt in the MAAC, would that not be pretty good?
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Post by Quackman on May 6, 2020 11:37:29 GMT -5
That’s the thing he’s a depth guy. You’re not going to replace Burns fully. You go by committee at center. This team is built on our guard play which should be outstanding. Manny/Tate at the 4 and Young/Curry/Golson at the 5. Tate can probably also play some 5. BK is a wildcard - anything we get out of him this year is a bonus. Unless we’re going small Golson is 6 5 and a fraction, I see him more as a 4 that plays around the hoop and not a post up 5 type kid .... think Alex Franklin type. To some degree, same with Tate. Having big, excellent rebounding guards and wings like Pickett, Carey and, especially, Camper allows teams to go smaller at the 5. I expect Harris will make a big jump (no pun intended) on the boards as well. Great thing is that Carm is going to have a lot of options at his disposal that will allow him to change up style of play both from game to game and within the game.
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Post by Quackman on May 6, 2020 11:39:13 GMT -5
Unless we’re going small Golson is 6 5 and a fraction, I see him more as a 4 that plays around the hoop and not a post up 5 type kid .... think Alex Franklin type. We have Camper. His rebounding changes everything and makes the team more flexible. As long as Golson rebounds and defends, you can play them both together in the MAAC. Maybe not the ACC but the MAAC yes...as long as he produces. Haddix was a 6-6 center. If you had a Camper/Haddix frontcourt in the MAAC, would that not be pretty good? I agree but the great thing is that Siena has multiple other options on their bench. I expect Camper to play multiple positions, from the 2 to 5, this year. Defensively, from the 1 to 5.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:48:04 GMT -5
We have Camper. His rebounding changes everything and makes the team more flexible. As long as Golson rebounds and defends, you can play them both together in the MAAC. Maybe not the ACC but the MAAC yes...as long as he produces. Haddix was a 6-6 center. If you had a Camper/Haddix frontcourt in the MAAC, would that not be pretty good? I agree but the great thing is that Siena has multiple other options on their bench. I expect Camper to play multiple positions, from the 2 to 5, this year. Defensively, from the 1 to 5. Camper should never be effectively a '2' and probably shouldn't even be a '3'. Siena can't afford to leave that much perimeter shooting and ball control the bench. It's a guard's league.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 6, 2020 12:22:58 GMT -5
would like to add an attribute of BK that cannot be overlooked..............just an incredible hoop IQ from what the coaches are saying, he could be a more athletic Bisping with total court awareness........... If BK was 230 like the rest of these guys...I'd be labeling him a sleeper to even potentially start. It's just, he's so thin...and the other guys will be so much stronger right now. He might be skilled and smart enough to overcome that. Who knows. I feel better about BK's overall potential in his sophomore year than I do about the overall potential of anyone else there that we'll have. BK would be wise to redshirt this year and work on his body. Playing time in '21-'22 should be plentiful.
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Post by knicksaint on May 6, 2020 13:41:28 GMT -5
We would lose Curry for 2021-22, but pick up Stormo and Arrington. Not sure the minutes will be more plentiful, but a year to develop his body might put BK in a better position to earn his minutes that year vs. playing in 2020-21.
At the risk of picking the proverbial scab, I still don’t understand why Carm added both Stormo and Arrington. One of the consequences is that he has in effect already give one of the scholarships for the next recruiting class away, so that with the departures of Manny, Curry and Jimmy, we will only have two available for the class of 2021.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 14:51:35 GMT -5
We would lose Curry for 2021-22, but pick up Stormo and Arrington. Not sure the minutes will be more plentiful, but a year to develop his body might put BK in a better position to earn his minutes that year vs. playing in 2020-21. At the risk of picking the proverbial scab, I still don’t understand why Carm added both Stormo and Arrington. One of the consequences is that he has in effect already give one of the scholarships for the next recruiting class away, so that with the departures of Manny, Curry and Jimmy, we will only have two available for the class of 2021. BK is much more athletic and skilled off the bounce than either those 2 without giving up much height. He also might be able to shoot some. And given how his HS team played, he probably focuses more on defense. The question with him seems to be mostly just his body and his ability to carve out space and rebound. As he improves that, he very well may go from the end of the bench to the starting lineup. If someone from 2 years in the future came back and told me that BK was an ALL-MAAC center his junior year, I wouldn't be all that surprised.
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Post by $cott on May 6, 2020 14:57:29 GMT -5
With the grad transfer rule I'm not sure why you would redshirt anyone that can contribute at all as a freshman if it wasn't part of an agreement during recruiting.
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Post by bigsaintg on May 6, 2020 15:03:06 GMT -5
We would lose Curry for 2021-22, but pick up Stormo and Arrington. Not sure the minutes will be more plentiful, but a year to develop his body might put BK in a better position to earn his minutes that year vs. playing in 2020-21. At the risk of picking the proverbial scab, I still don’t understand why Carm added both Stormo and Arrington. One of the consequences is that he has in effect already give one of the scholarships for the next recruiting class away, so that with the departures of Manny, Curry and Jimmy, we will only have two available for the class of 2021. I agree and who knows what the real deal is with Arrington. I wonder if he could get his degree and then be a grad training after without ever playing for us. I think there is more to his story then we all know. Especially since he is leaving a scholarship to pay his own way.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 6, 2020 16:18:55 GMT -5
We would lose Curry for 2021-22, but pick up Stormo and Arrington. Not sure the minutes will be more plentiful, but a year to develop his body might put BK in a better position to earn his minutes that year vs. playing in 2020-21. At the risk of picking the proverbial scab, I still don’t understand why Carm added both Stormo and Arrington. One of the consequences is that he has in effect already give one of the scholarships for the next recruiting class away, so that with the departures of Manny, Curry and Jimmy, we will only have two available for the class of 2021. If BK isnt better than those 2 after a year getting stronger, he'll never see the floor here.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 6, 2020 16:20:22 GMT -5
With the grad transfer rule I'm not sure why you would redshirt anyone that can contribute at all as a freshman if it wasn't part of an agreement during recruiting. I'll translate: I dont think he plays next year. Too many better players in front of him. And you're right, BK doesnt have to redshirt, even though its 100% in his best interest. How is playing 32 min (Luke as an example) in a year helpful to the kid? He just threw away 25% of his career.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 17:53:50 GMT -5
I take back all I may have said about any weaknesses Curry might have. This kid's definitely going places.
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