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Post by hoopsforever on Apr 27, 2020 20:15:53 GMT -5
Was doing some filing tonight of old stuff I had hanging around and ran across the Sports Illustrated issue of March 24, 2008. Kenny Hasbrouck was on the cover along with other reps of schools dancing. On the preview article with brackets, Sports Illustrated picked #13 Siena to upset #4 Vanderbilt with this comment, " Stanford-stunners still have upset magic left."
Wow! Switch back to 2020 and what could have been had the MAAC tourney finished. Fast forward to the 2021 NCAA Tourney- picture Jalen Pickett on the SI cover with other conference champs and qualifiers and the brackets ahead. I know right now are dark days, but better days are ahead for all of us. Hang in there, and GO SAINTS!!!!!
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Post by indian82 on Apr 27, 2020 20:22:17 GMT -5
WOW ! I must have known that they picked us back then but I totally forgot.
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Post by hoopsforever on Apr 27, 2020 20:59:32 GMT -5
WOW ! I must have known that they picked us back then but I totally forgot. Hey, I had totally forgotten as well, but I now have renewed respect for SI and their coverage of college basketball!!!
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Post by phillyfan on Apr 28, 2020 9:41:36 GMT -5
SI and Seth Davis too!
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Post by Quackman on Apr 28, 2020 11:57:24 GMT -5
Siena was a fairly trendy upset pick that year as Vandy was thought to be overrated. Though I don't believe anyone thought it would be that kind of blow out.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 28, 2020 11:58:19 GMT -5
King Rice had the scout
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Post by nolesaint on Apr 28, 2020 12:05:10 GMT -5
Was doing some filing tonight of old stuff I had hanging around and ran across the Sports Illustrated issue of March 24, 2008. Kenny Hasbrouck was on the cover along with other reps of schools dancing. On the preview article with brackets, Sports Illustrated picked #13 Siena to upset #4 Vanderbilt with this comment, " Stanford-stunners still have upset magic left." Wow! Switch back to 2020 and what could have been had the MAAC tourney finished. Fast forward to the 2021 NCAA Tourney- picture Jalen Pickett on the SI cover with other conference champs and qualifiers and the brackets ahead. I know right now are dark days, but better days are ahead for all of us. Hang in there, and GO SAINTS!!!!! I remember how arrogant the Vandy players and fans were in the days and hours leading up to tip-off. Those of us lucky enough to be in the arena for that game saw thousands of SEC blue-bloods sullenly eating their crow on the way out the door. Many rightfully talk about Kenny and Tay's offensive performance that game but for me the most impressive player was Edwin. He played GREAT defense taking Shan Foster, Vandy's star and SEC POY out of the game. The Commodores did not know how to win without a big game from their star. Biggest difference in the round of 32 game v. Nova was the depth and athleticism of the Nova bigs compared to the Saints. So in my mind Carm and Co. adding depth on the front line is a good move.
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Post by saints22 on Apr 28, 2020 13:14:20 GMT -5
Was doing some filing tonight of old stuff I had hanging around and ran across the Sports Illustrated issue of March 24, 2008. Kenny Hasbrouck was on the cover along with other reps of schools dancing. On the preview article with brackets, Sports Illustrated picked #13 Siena to upset #4 Vanderbilt with this comment, " Stanford-stunners still have upset magic left." Wow! Switch back to 2020 and what could have been had the MAAC tourney finished. Fast forward to the 2021 NCAA Tourney- picture Jalen Pickett on the SI cover with other conference champs and qualifiers and the brackets ahead. I know right now are dark days, but better days are ahead for all of us. Hang in there, and GO SAINTS!!!!! I remember how arrogant the Vandy players and fans were in the days and hours leading up to tip-off. Those of us lucky enough to be in the arena for that game saw thousands of SEC blue-bloods sullenly eating their crow on the way out the door. Many rightfully talk about Kenny and Tay's offensive performance that game but for me the most impressive player was Edwin. He played GREAT defense taking Shan Foster, Vandy's star and SEC POY out of the game. The Commodores did not know how to win without a big game from their star. Biggest difference in the round of 32 game v. Nova was the depth and athleticism of the Nova bigs compared to the Saints. So in my mind Carm and Co. adding depth on the front line is a good move. Really excellent point about Edwin and his defense. God bless him, Eddie had his issues, but he was one hell of a college basketball player. Fran has consistently said that Eddie had one of the best basketball minds that he (Fran) has ever coached. And he had the physical tools to go with it.
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Post by skipc on Apr 28, 2020 16:50:03 GMT -5
I remember how arrogant the Vandy players and fans were in the days and hours leading up to tip-off. Those of us lucky enough to be in the arena for that game saw thousands of SEC blue-bloods sullenly eating their crow on the way out the door. Many rightfully talk about Kenny and Tay's offensive performance that game but for me the most impressive player was Edwin. He played GREAT defense taking Shan Foster, Vandy's star and SEC POY out of the game. The Commodores did not know how to win without a big game from their star. Biggest difference in the round of 32 game v. Nova was the depth and athleticism of the Nova bigs compared to the Saints. So in my mind Carm and Co. adding depth on the front line is a good move. Really excellent point about Edwin and his defense. God bless him, Eddie had his issues, but he was one hell of a college basketball player. Fran has consistently said that Eddie had one of the best basketball minds that he (Fran) has ever coached. And he had the physical tools to go with it. I think the hardest job Fran had with Eddie was getting him to the classroom. He was a hell of a talent and a pleasure to watch. Thanks for that insight S22.
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Post by MTS on Apr 29, 2020 12:38:38 GMT -5
When we beat Ohio State it was a war - we play them 100 times both teams probably win 50.
But the Vanderbilt game - we were simply better. If we played them 100 times I bet Siena wins 65-70 of them.
Edwin completely shutdown Shan Foster.
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Post by $cott on Apr 29, 2020 12:53:46 GMT -5
When we beat Ohio State it was a war - we play them 100 times both teams probably win 50. But the Vanderbilt game - we were simply better. If we played them 100 times I bet Siena wins 65-70 of them. Edwin completely shutdown Shan Foster. Vanderbilt would have won 70 out of 100. Tay Fisher was 6/6 from 3 point range and Vanderbilt shot 20% as a team from 3. Siena also shot an absurd 22/25 from the line. It was the perfect storm, would not have happened more than 3 times out of 10.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 13:59:43 GMT -5
When we beat Ohio State it was a war - we play them 100 times both teams probably win 50. But the Vanderbilt game - we were simply better. If we played them 100 times I bet Siena wins 65-70 of them. Edwin completely shutdown Shan Foster. Vanderbilt would have won 70 out of 100. Tay Fisher was 6/6 from 3 point range and Vanderbilt shot 20% as a team from 3. Siena also shot an absurd 22/25 from the line. It was the perfect storm, would not have happened more than 3 times out of 10. 3/10 were great odds, after all, we only needed 1/10...
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Post by Quackman on Apr 29, 2020 14:11:12 GMT -5
When we beat Ohio State it was a war - we play them 100 times both teams probably win 50. But the Vanderbilt game - we were simply better. If we played them 100 times I bet Siena wins 65-70 of them. Edwin completely shutdown Shan Foster. Vanderbilt would have won 70 out of 100. Tay Fisher was 6/6 from 3 point range and Vanderbilt shot 20% as a team from 3. Siena also shot an absurd 22/25 from the line. It was the perfect storm, would not have happened more than 3 times out of 10. Vandy was a legit top 20 teams featuring a bunch of really good players (Foster, the Aussie center). Siena took them to the woodshed that day but don't forget Siena was struggling going into the bracketbuster game at Boise St and were a Josh Duell put back (that Loyola fans still say was a walk) away from an NIT bid. It wasn't a walk by the way.
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Post by Quackman on Apr 29, 2020 14:12:04 GMT -5
Vanderbilt would have won 70 out of 100. Tay Fisher was 6/6 from 3 point range and Vanderbilt shot 20% as a team from 3. Siena also shot an absurd 22/25 from the line. It was the perfect storm, would not have happened more than 3 times out of 10. 3/10 were great odds, after all, we only needed 1/10... Siena was, by far, the better team that day. That doesn't mean they would be the better team every day.
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Post by knicksaint on Apr 29, 2020 15:25:01 GMT -5
Agreed, but if Siena-Ohio State was 50-50 proposition, Siena-Vandy would not be 30-70 in Vandy’s favor. I thought facing Vandy was a great opportunity for Siena to get a win, which is the same as I thought going into the Stanford game in Greensboro.
I feel very blessed to have been in the arena for every Siena NCAA win and I hope to see at least one more in 2021.
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