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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 2, 2020 9:13:46 GMT -5
about FBI & the college hoop scandal...........................well, it is what we all knew all along...............any high end talent going to schools are likely getting some sort of "other benefit" whether it be cash payments (to them, to their families), possibly cars/homes, etc.................centers around "go between/runner/unofficial agent" Christian Dawkins as he gives his accounts of the underlying system ..............Arizona's Sean Miller & LSU's Will Wade are caught on tape talking to him about player situations, yet they both came out and made statements they had no connection or every dealt with Dawkins, basically lying and should be fired without hesitation, but currently they are still employed...............high target of FBI was Pitino because of player Brian Bowen's recruitment as well...................bottom line the FBI should have done a better job of following through with their investigation, because they could have an uncovered a myriad of rampant activity at most schools (only some assistant coaches were axed at this point).............and the NCAA while they talk a good game about integrity this & that, have basically sat on their hands because of the flow of money that college basketball brings in.......................who knows if this goes any further, nor if the FBI has a further agenda, or even if the NCAA now decides to make a clean up of this mess (they had not heard those tapes of Miller or Wade before this past Tues when HBO first aired this program).........................any thoughts of Siena grabbing some top profile type of player would never happen (sorry MTS), we aren't in the same ballpark being able to dish out boatloads of cash as the power schools (and with Patsos gone there will be no ice cream money available), so as much as we think it is about playing time it may really boil down to what school will pay the most money/benefit and that's how alot of recruiting pans out..............
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 2, 2020 9:33:40 GMT -5
Fun to watch the Iona fans over on the MAAC board trying to justify his hiring, after killing us for considering him a couple years ago.
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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 2, 2020 9:39:43 GMT -5
Fun to watch the Iona fans over on the MAAC board trying to justify his hiring, after killing us for considering him a couple years ago. listen, this is what we know about human nature....................when we know for a fact someone/group is "bad" or "dirty", we can always point the finger and realize it because we are not essentially associated with that person or group...........however, when we or others somehow get linked to that person/group, it then becomes a whole different spin.......................easy correlation is sports, like Pitino, once he becomes "your coach", you FORGET all the bad & negative things, because all you are now consumed with is "winning", it is the basis of mass hypocritical thinking, he is our guy and that makes it ok...........depends on what moral field you want to stand on, others feel selling your soul to the devil is just fine because it gets them what they truly want or what they think they want...............Siena's president at the time squashed any possible relationship because of knowing the negatives that would surround such a hire, and yet another school in our league has decided to take on that baggage but will try to sell it as some sort of "redemption story" when really it is all about winning at all cost no matter what..................
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Apr 2, 2020 12:06:02 GMT -5
If you're super bored here's the CBS College Hoops podcast talking about the doc...they had covered the situation in general several times already, but one of the pod hosts also covered the trial so he has some interesting insight on the doc as well. Link - CBS Eye on College Basketball
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Post by saints22 on Apr 2, 2020 12:09:23 GMT -5
about FBI & the college hoop scandal...........................well, it is what we all knew all along...............any high end talent going to schools are likely getting some sort of "other benefit" whether it be cash payments (to them, to their families), possibly cars/homes, etc.................centers around "go between/runner/unofficial agent" Christian Dawkins as he gives his accounts of the underlying system ..............Arizona's Sean Miller & LSU's Will Wade are caught on tape talking to him about player situations, yet they both came out and made statements they had no connection or every dealt with Dawkins, basically lying and should be fired without hesitation, but currently they are still employed...............high target of FBI was Pitino because of player Brian Bowen's recruitment as well...................bottom line the FBI should have done a better job of following through with their investigation, because they could have an uncovered a myriad of rampant activity at most schools (only some assistant coaches were axed at this point).............and the NCAA while they talk a good game about integrity this & that, have basically sat on their hands because of the flow of money that college basketball brings in.......................who knows if this goes any further, nor if the FBI has a further agenda, or even if the NCAA now decides to make a clean up of this mess (they had not heard those tapes of Miller or Wade before this past Tues when HBO first aired this program).........................any thoughts of Siena grabbing some top profile type of player would never happen (sorry MTS), we aren't in the same ballpark being able to dish out boatloads of cash as the power schools (and with Patsos gone there will be no ice cream money available), so as much as we think it is about playing time it may really boil down to what school will pay the most money/benefit and that's how alot of recruiting pans out.............. I never understood how Miller and Wade..........and others..........were still coaching after this came up last year.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 3, 2020 17:11:07 GMT -5
The FBI spent a ton of money and resources to get the low level guys. Bringing machines guns in on a raid of Dawkins was insane. I do believe that powerful board members at major universities and other institutions probably helped squash some of the indictments. If the coaches were involved then they helped facilitate a bribe - at least those at public institutions should have been fired
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Post by $cott on Apr 3, 2020 23:27:36 GMT -5
Wow, FBI sure looked bad in this one.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 4, 2020 15:16:57 GMT -5
Wow, FBI sure looked bad in this one. And when that happens, watch out!! Arizona and LSU needs to fire both coaches and insulate their programs. Now that the public has seen how brazen these two coaches were on their wiretaps, the FBI looks soooooo soft. They will get their revenge. One way or the other. Count on it.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Apr 6, 2020 7:54:02 GMT -5
www.wbur.org/onlyagameThis weeks show had episode about scandal and segment on Dr Fauci’s basketball career in HS at Regis in NYC
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