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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2020 14:04:04 GMT -5
Stupid to suggest that not having Cluess hasn't meant all that much. REALLY stupid. Cluess makes this team. With the roster Iona puts together they need a coach to keep the players focused and disciplined, otherwise the wheels come off. I’m not big on Cluess as a “basketball coach”, Iona puts potential talent on the floor to overpower opponents. This works against MAAC like teams but come to play the big boys they get blown off the floor. I think that happens s because of low basketball IQ on the court and lack of quality game planning. I always thought of Cluess as a better personnel manager than basketball coach. Whether that's true or not the bottom line is he wins. |
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Post by Tony on Feb 19, 2020 14:15:14 GMT -5
I like Carm's way of thinking, its not so much about Iona- its about us. If Siena comes out and plays its game, we will win. For all the talk about Iona being way down because Cluess isnt there- I Say B/S, sure they are down slightly, they lost their best player McGill last year. But last year they had Sagarin rating of 188 ( 70.29), this year minus McGill and Cluless they have ranking of 203 and 70.01 just slightly down from last year- Iona didnt get much worse, the MAAC got better. If Siena comes out to play Siena should win Stupid to suggest that not having Cluess hasn't meant all that much. REALLY stupid. All I Said is numbers say not much difference between this years Iona team and last years-- that is a fact. I take nothing away from Cluess, no doubt he is a proven winner but as KK says numbers dont lie - Iona's Sagarins is about exactly the same as last years. Ken pom very similar also -- take away from that what you will- |
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Post by ionaguyf on Feb 19, 2020 16:03:07 GMT -5
Stupid to suggest that not having Cluess hasn't meant all that much. REALLY stupid. Cluess makes this team. With the roster Iona puts together they need a coach to keep the players focused and disciplined, otherwise the wheels come off. I’m not big on Cluess as a “basketball coach”, Iona puts potential talent on the floor to overpower opponents. This works against MAAC like teams but come to play the big boys they get blown off the floor. I think that happens s because of low basketball IQ on the court and lack of quality game planning. I always thought of Cluess as a better personnel manager than basketball coach. Idiotic. |
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Post by ionaguyf on Feb 19, 2020 16:08:05 GMT -5
Stupid to suggest that not having Cluess hasn't meant all that much. REALLY stupid. All I Said is numbers say not much difference between this years Iona team and last years-- that is a fact. I take nothing away from Cluess, no doubt he is a proven winner but as KK says numbers dont lie - Iona's Sagarins is about exactly the same as last years. Ken pom very similar also -- take away from that what you will- What I take away from it is that you're not bright. Iona was a favorite to do damage this year based on what was returning being coached by CLUESS. You have NO way of knowing where this team would be if he were there all along, but suggesting Iona would have not been at LEAST 4 games better overall and 2 better in the MAAC (lost 2 OOC games in OT, lost 2 MAAC games on bonehead coaching errors late) is the stuff of morons. And those 2 league wins would have us at 9-5 vs 7-7--and that's mininum, hoss. |
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Post by Tony on Feb 19, 2020 16:13:01 GMT -5
All I Said is numbers say not much difference between this years Iona team and last years-- that is a fact. I take nothing away from Cluess, no doubt he is a proven winner but as KK says numbers dont lie - Iona's Sagarins is about exactly the same as last years. Ken pom very similar also -- take away from that what you will- What I take away from it is that you're not bright. Iona was a favorite to do damage this year based on what was returning being coached by CLUESS. You have NO way of knowing where this team would be if he were there all along, but suggesting Iona would have not been at LEAST 4 games better overall and 2 better in the MAAC (lost 2 OOC games in OT, lost 2 MAAC games on bonehead coaching errors late) is the stuff of morons. And those 2 league wins would have us at 9-5 vs 7-7--and that's mininum, hoss. Guy is a little *feisty* today.. Would have, should have, could have.. I realize some on the Iona board thought this was greatest team in Iona history, but numbers never added up that way- not even close. Enjoy the game tonight!!! |
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Post by missatomicbomb8 on Feb 19, 2020 16:40:30 GMT -5
there is NO LOOKING PAST IONA..............the players & coaches know it, and the real fans know it........4 time defending champion, sorry this is no trap game...................plus Iona has had a TON of success in Albany over the years, playing here always seems to bring the best out of them.............that being said, I fully expect our guys to be ready right from the opening tip.................. Great post and I agree.iona might be the most resistance we have faced at home this year. They are a more talented team than their record. The maac is so down. I know most fans on here with green colored glasses will always defend the league; but any objective fan of the game can see the dropoff in talent from Siena with most teams. So, while I love our squad, the talent and athleticism, I don't believe we are tested in the league. Also, we are a different team on the road and playing in front of crickets in AC isn't gonna be the most motivating environment. This league just can't figure out the maac tourney, it's a joke. Having this tourney at a non maac town location is beyond dumb. Albany makes all the sense, every year, I understand the politics, but the league's leaders need to get their heads outta their bums. |
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Post by missatomicbomb8 on Feb 19, 2020 16:55:00 GMT -5
What I take away from it is that you're not bright. Iona was a favorite to do damage this year based on what was returning being coached by CLUESS. You have NO way of knowing where this team would be if he were there all along, but suggesting Iona would have not been at LEAST 4 games better overall and 2 better in the MAAC (lost 2 OOC games in OT, lost 2 MAAC games on bonehead coaching errors late) is the stuff of morons. And those 2 league wins would have us at 9-5 vs 7-7--and that's mininum, hoss. Guy is a little *feisty* today.. Would have, should have, could have.. I realize some on the Iona board thought this was greatest team in Iona history, but numbers never added up that way- not even close. Enjoy the game tonight!!! Amen, I have been bashing the maac as a conference for good reason as there just isn't the talent and athleticism seen in years past. That said. I haven't properly taken into account the absence of TC as iona coach. I love his leadership and iona can challenge us when properly coached. |
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Post by ionaguyf on Feb 19, 2020 17:03:02 GMT -5
What I take away from it is that you're not bright. Iona was a favorite to do damage this year based on what was returning being coached by CLUESS. You have NO way of knowing where this team would be if he were there all along, but suggesting Iona would have not been at LEAST 4 games better overall and 2 better in the MAAC (lost 2 OOC games in OT, lost 2 MAAC games on bonehead coaching errors late) is the stuff of morons. And those 2 league wins would have us at 9-5 vs 7-7--and that's mininum, hoss. Guy is a little *feisty* today.. Would have, should have, could have.. I realize some on the Iona board thought this was greatest team in Iona history, but numbers never added up that way- not even close. Enjoy the game tonight!!! Yeah, like the woulda/shoulda/coulda game with Cluess is insignificant. |
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Post by Sienafan on Feb 19, 2020 17:18:55 GMT -5
All I Said is numbers say not much difference between this years Iona team and last years-- that is a fact. I take nothing away from Cluess, no doubt he is a proven winner but as KK says numbers dont lie - Iona's Sagarins is about exactly the same as last years. Ken pom very similar also -- take away from that what you will- What I take away from it is that you're not bright. Iona was a favorite to do damage this year based on what was returning being coached by CLUESS. You have NO way of knowing where this team would be if he were there all along, but suggesting Iona would have not been at LEAST 4 games better overall and 2 better in the MAAC (lost 2 OOC games in OT, lost 2 MAAC games on bonehead coaching errors late) is the stuff of morons. And those 2 league wins would have us at 9-5 vs 7-7--and that's mininum, hoss. There's no doubt Iona would have been in better shape in some fashion with their head coach present all season. The question is how much better? To your point, we'll never know. To Tony's point, they weren't exactly world beaters last season with Cluess and McGill, who made that team arguably better than it is now. The Sagarin was 188 (vs. Low 200s now) and that team similarly started off like shit before putting it together in February with a final record barely over .500. This year's team seems eerily similar to last season's. I'm not sure what basis you have for thinking Cluess was going to significantly improve over last season's result with arguably a net loss in talent after McGill's departure. My guess is the main difference is the run Iona is currently on would have again continued all the way to the tournament like last season. Without him, it probably won't. But I don't think Cluess would have prevented how this season has gone up until this 4 game run began, similarly to how he couldn't prevent last season's poor start. My theory is that I don't think this two year run of poor starts is the coaching - it's the personnel. It's the one constant between the two seasons. |
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Post by saintsfan12 on Feb 19, 2020 18:32:31 GMT -5
This league just can't figure out the maac tourney, it's a joke. Having this tourney at a non maac town location is beyond dumb. Albany makes all the sense, every year, I understand the politics, but the league's leaders need to get their heads outta their bums. The MAAC tournament should be in Albany every year, and Siena should be in the A-10 |
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Post by Tony on Feb 19, 2020 21:50:12 GMT -5
Dominate the MAAC before you worry about the A10. We haven't been to NCAA's in 10 years in crappy MAAC
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Post by sienahusker on Feb 19, 2020 22:12:06 GMT -5
That team plays better with Cluess at the helm.
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Post by missatomicbomb8 on Feb 21, 2020 19:51:03 GMT -5
Dominate the MAAC before you worry about the A10. We haven't been to NCAA's in 10 years in crappy MAAC Amen brother, we had our shot during the fran years. We are big fish in the smallest pond in this league. We have the town, fanbase, facility, and ideal location to be in the a10. However, the Siena leadership didn't have the vision to realize this programs potential and its frustrating. For the love of God, the maac is one of the top 5 worst conferences year after year and the fact we get 5.5-7.0k/game is amazing and a tribute. Half the league plays in hs gyms and if schools like Fordham, umass, and the Bonnie's can play in the a10, why not us? Imagine the recruiting uptick and crowds we would draw being in Albany!!  |
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 21, 2020 20:10:22 GMT -5
Dominate the MAAC before you worry about the A10. We haven't been to NCAA's in 10 years in crappy MAAC Amen brother, we had our shot during the fran years. We are big fish in the smallest pond in this league. We have the town, fanbase, facility, and ideal location to be in the a10. However, the Siena leadership didn't have the vision to realize this programs potential and its frustrating. For the love of God, the maac is one of the top 5 worst conferences year after year and the fact we get 5.5-7.0k/game is amazing and a tribute. Half the league plays in hs gyms and if schools like Fordham, umass, and the Bonnie's can play in the a10, why not us? Imagine the recruiting uptick and crowds we would draw being in Albany!! Maac is 21 out of 32 currently. Usually an mid pack league. Last year was bad, but we’ve been as high as 14 if I recall correctly. |
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Post by missatomicbomb8 on Mar 1, 2020 14:11:53 GMT -5
That team plays better with Cluess at the helm. We did for the years under fran. The momentum was there. We have the perfect overall profile for a jump. What was the Bonnie's and rams' credentials credentials? |
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