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Post by marshotel on Feb 18, 2020 20:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by marshotel on Feb 18, 2020 20:12:02 GMT -5
Tweet from Josh Newman (@joshua_Newman) Josh Newman (@joshua_Newman) Tweeted: 1. The waiver process is a joke. This is one solution. 2. If this goes through (it will), the big loser here will be mid-majors, who already get their best players poached by the heavies. t.co/sslo69dZ7o
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 18, 2020 21:29:54 GMT -5
Or, it could be a way for Siena to grab HM players not playing much to come back down to the MM range. Carm & Staff are already doing this now. Can you imagine who else we could get if the student didn’t have to sit out a year?
I agree, it b CB oils hurt the mids the most but Carm could also use it to Siena’s advantage.
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Post by Tony on Feb 19, 2020 4:42:39 GMT -5
This would disastrous for mid majors, which would basically become minor league feeding system for high majors. Can you imagine a Marc Brown, Kenny Hasbrouck or Jalen Pickett staying at Siena after big freshmen years- you'd never see that again
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Post by marshotel on Feb 19, 2020 8:58:00 GMT -5
Couple this transfer rule with pay to play and players will bolt for the biggest payday. I hope this doesn't happen. t.co/9K0BwPl55W
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 19, 2020 9:22:34 GMT -5
Or, it could be a way for Siena to grab HM players not playing much to come back down to the MM range. Carm & Staff are already doing this now. Can you imagine who else we could get if the student didn’t have to sit out a year? I agree, it b CB oils hurt the mids the most but Carm could also use it to Siena’s advantage. IS, your over the top positivity is clouding you from seeing this would be a huge blow to mid-majors and effectively just feed the bigger programs................Siena would never be able to keep a talented player, and the thoughts of a mass exodus of kids simply transferring down is simply a pipe dream.................we won't have to worry about sell outs anymore at the TUC, because we will need to go back to the ARC and perhaps even drop D1.............just terrible thinking by the NCAA overall................
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2020 9:40:10 GMT -5
Or, it could be a way for Siena to grab HM players not playing much to come back down to the MM range. Carm & Staff are already doing this now. Can you imagine who else we could get if the student didn’t have to sit out a year? I agree, it b CB oils hurt the mids the most but Carm could also use it to Siena’s advantage. IS, your over the top positivity is clouding you from seeing this would be a huge blow to mid-majors and effectively just feed the bigger programs................Siena would never be able to keep a talented player, and the thoughts of a mass exodus of kids simply transferring down is simply a pipe dream.................we won't have to worry about sell outs anymore at the TUC, because we will need to go back to the ARC and perhaps even drop D1.............just terrible thinking by the NCAA overall................ Oh come on, that's a little over the top don't you think? Where are all these transfers going to go?? If North Carolina takes a roster spot from Siena that means that North Carolina needs to kick somebody out first right? Where does that kid go? I'm not in favor of this rule but I don't see how it impacts Siena's revenue. I get that it potentially impacts the level of play. But if a program leaves d1 it wouldn't be Siena but a lower level program. And that would be a good thing.
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 19, 2020 9:48:45 GMT -5
IS, your over the top positivity is clouding you from seeing this would be a huge blow to mid-majors and effectively just feed the bigger programs................Siena would never be able to keep a talented player, and the thoughts of a mass exodus of kids simply transferring down is simply a pipe dream.................we won't have to worry about sell outs anymore at the TUC, because we will need to go back to the ARC and perhaps even drop D1.............just terrible thinking by the NCAA overall................ Oh come on, that's a little over the top don't you think? Where are all these transfers going to go?? If North Carolina takes a roster spot from Siena that means that North Carolina needs to kick somebody out first right? Where does that kid go? I'm not in favor of this rule but I don't see how it impacts Siena's revenue. I get that it potentially impacts the level of play. But if a program leaves d1 it wouldn't be Siena but a lower level program. And that would be a good thing. Gorvy, big time programs don't have 13 roster spots for all-americans, they typically have 9-10 if that..............so that affords the opportunity to cut ties with those on the end of their bench who don't possibly factor into playing time at that level and scoop up the talent from lower levels.............they do initially grab these players because alot of them may have been rated higher coming out of HS or prep and you know big schools just like to grab talent, but they end of transferring down but not all of them are difference makers (sure we have Burns but the rest have not really panned out that well for us)..............the mid-majors have a very difficult time getting really talented players and with this new rule you won't keep them, there is no advantage for a school like Siena with this scenario, none..............you think lower levels leave D1, possibly, but then again you might actually see the "separation" of levels like you see in college football, is that what you really want also?, sorry this is a bad move to allow free wheeling transfer, won't benefit Siena one bit but more than likely hurt us big time...................
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Post by MTS on Feb 19, 2020 11:05:47 GMT -5
This would disastrous for mid majors, which would basically become minor league feeding system for high majors. Can you imagine a Marc Brown, Kenny Hasbrouck or Jalen Pickett staying at Siena after big freshmen years- you'd never see that again Would kill mid-major basketball which is what they ultimately want. Very sad. You'll have a new team pretty much every season. No continuity at all.
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Post by MTS on Feb 19, 2020 11:09:54 GMT -5
IS, your over the top positivity is clouding you from seeing this would be a huge blow to mid-majors and effectively just feed the bigger programs................Siena would never be able to keep a talented player, and the thoughts of a mass exodus of kids simply transferring down is simply a pipe dream.................we won't have to worry about sell outs anymore at the TUC, because we will need to go back to the ARC and perhaps even drop D1.............just terrible thinking by the NCAA overall................ Oh come on, that's a little over the top don't you think? Where are all these transfers going to go?? If North Carolina takes a roster spot from Siena that means that North Carolina needs to kick somebody out first right? Where does that kid go? I'm not in favor of this rule but I don't see how it impacts Siena's revenue. I get that it potentially impacts the level of play. But if a program leaves d1 it wouldn't be Siena but a lower level program. And that would be a good thing. Yeah ARC is a little over the top....drop D1, move to ARC? Nope but it would ruin mid-major basketball and make coaches jobs hell. More cheating will happen. The NCAA is a friggin joke.
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Post by $cott on Feb 19, 2020 11:13:36 GMT -5
This would disastrous for mid majors, which would basically become minor league feeding system for high majors. Can you imagine a Marc Brown, Kenny Hasbrouck or Jalen Pickett staying at Siena after big freshmen years- you'd never see that again Would kill mid-major basketball which is what they ultimately want. Very sad. You'll have a new team pretty much every season. No continuity at all. I hate the concept but it won't kill midmajor basketball. Many of the kids at midmajors chose to go to that level to be the star rather than be a role or bench player at a bigger school. You also have a much better chance of ever reaching the NCAA tournament at a good midmajor than by going to Boston College or Fordham. Yes, Siena would lose a few stud freshman or guys that breakout as sophomores and that would be really rough. But the majority of the team would return each year and we might be able to land some guys similar to Burns that want to move down in level without having to sit out a year. I hope this isn't the future of college basketball and fear it is but it won't kill midmajors. Only way to kill midmajors would be to remove the auto bids or to use Papi's dumb idea to put all the midmajors in Division 1-AA.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:17:47 GMT -5
Or, it could be a way for Siena to grab HM players not playing much to come back down to the MM range. Carm & Staff are already doing this now. Can you imagine who else we could get if the student didn’t have to sit out a year? I agree, it b CB oils hurt the mids the most but Carm could also use it to Siena’s advantage. Goodbye Jalen Picket, Camper and Harris.... who do we get in return?
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2020 12:24:43 GMT -5
Or, it could be a way for Siena to grab HM players not playing much to come back down to the MM range. Carm & Staff are already doing this now. Can you imagine who else we could get if the student didn’t have to sit out a year? I agree, it b CB oils hurt the mids the most but Carm could also use it to Siena’s advantage. Goodbye Jalen Picket, Camper and Harris.... who do we get in return? Cassius Winston, luka Garza and Markus howard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:29:13 GMT -5
Goodbye Jalen Picket, Camper and Harris.... who do we get in return? Cassius Winston, luka Garza and Markus howard. Wait, oh gosh......... sorry, can’t top that.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2020 12:32:03 GMT -5
Would kill mid-major basketball which is what they ultimately want. Very sad. You'll have a new team pretty much every season. No continuity at all. I hate the concept but it won't kill midmajor basketball. Many of the kids at midmajors chose to go to that level to be the star rather than be a role or bench player at a bigger school. You also have a much better chance of ever reaching the NCAA tournament at a good midmajor than by going to Boston College or Fordham. Yes, Siena would lose a few stud freshman or guys that breakout as sophomores and that would be really rough. But the majority of the team would return each year and we might be able to land some guys similar to Burns that want to move down in level without having to sit out a year. I hope this isn't the future of college basketball and fear it is but it won't kill midmajors. Only way to kill midmajors would be to remove the auto bids or to use Papi's dumb idea to put all the midmajors in Division 1-AA. Exactly. I have to think that Siena would be in a better position than most to weather this storm. If not and they are still serious about hoop... time to consider the a10.
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