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Post by greengold4ever on May 31, 2019 10:40:30 GMT -5
and the recruiting strategy that Carm & the staff are pushing to prospects now is...............Siena has a potential NBA caliber player in Pickett at PG on the roster................he will find "you" and get you shots where you will have great chances to score.............the hope is that is appealing to recruits plus the fact that a place like Siena can be a place where NBA caliber talent is recognized............
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Post by MTS on Jun 3, 2019 7:53:07 GMT -5
Watching the NBA finals a player that I think Jalen could eventually be is Fred VanVleet. He's not very athletic and only 6'0 (to Jalen's 6'3 1/4) but has a high basketball IQ and makes the right plays. He was a four year player at Wichita State but went undrafted.
Hopefully Jalen knows working on his game for the entire four years at Siena is the best way to get to the league.
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Post by rpize24 on Jun 4, 2019 17:23:30 GMT -5
Jalen was under consideration for this list. Kid is gonna be in for a great year. Go Saints!
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Post by OneIndian on Jun 4, 2019 18:10:32 GMT -5
If this was the path taken by past Siena head-cases I’d have a different opinion/view ... I may be wrong butI I think Jalen will continue being a team-first player I don’t think Jalen is a headcase either, but doing what’s best for him and his family’s future, doesn’t really make him a bad guy either. I’m guessing his basketball future, and his ability to make a living off it, ranks ahead of Siena. Guess we ll see how influential those NBA people were..... I don’t see it... Everything I’ve seen from Jalen gives me no reason to believe he’s a me first kid, he’s never exhibited a selfish type of character; not in HS, not in AAU and definitely not at Siena. I believe he’ll work on his game in the context of what Siena plans to do ..... we’ll see but I’m willing to bet he’s not going to be jacking up bad shots and dominating selfishly in order to change what he does best to show some NBA scout he’s a different player. After all what he did last year as a 18-19 year old kid got him time and looks in the NBA draft process. If anything he needs to get stronger, play to his strengths - not weaknesses, work on his shot and ball handling. All that can be done without sacrificing who he is and what got him this far.....the kid has a good support system around him!!!!
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jun 4, 2019 18:20:37 GMT -5
I don’t think Jalen is a headcase either, but doing what’s best for him and his family’s future, doesn’t really make him a bad guy either. I’m guessing his basketball future, and his ability to make a living off it, ranks ahead of Siena. Guess we ll see how influential those NBA people were..... I don’t see it... Everything I’ve seen from Jalen gives me no reason to believe he’s a me first kid, he’s never exhibited a selfish type of character; not in HS, not in AAU and definitely not at Siena. I believe he’ll work on his game in the context of what Siena plans to do ..... we’ll see but I’m willing to bet he’s not going to be jacking up bad shots and dominating selfishly in order to change what he does best to show some NBA scout he’s a different player. After all what he did last year as a 18-19 year old kid got him time and looks in the NBA draft process. If anything he needs to get stronger, play to his strengths - not weaknesses, work on his shot and ball handling. All that can be done without sacrificing who he is and what got him this far.....the kid has a good support system around him!!!! All his experiences you’re judging him on happened BEFORE the NBA blitz. We re all hoping he plays within himself and doesn’t let this “experience” change his perspective on winning basketball.
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Post by OneIndian on Jun 4, 2019 18:32:53 GMT -5
I don’t see it... Everything I’ve seen from Jalen gives me no reason to believe he’s a me first kid, he’s never exhibited a selfish type of character; not in HS, not in AAU and definitely not at Siena. I believe he’ll work on his game in the context of what Siena plans to do ..... we’ll see but I’m willing to bet he’s not going to be jacking up bad shots and dominating selfishly in order to change what he does best to show some NBA scout he’s a different player. After all what he did last year as a 18-19 year old kid got him time and looks in the NBA draft process. If anything he needs to get stronger, play to his strengths - not weaknesses, work on his shot and ball handling. All that can be done without sacrificing who he is and what got him this far.....the kid has a good support system around him!!!! All his experiences you’re judging him on happened BEFORE the NBA blitz. We re all hoping he plays within himself and doesn’t let this “experience” change his perspective on winning basketball. True and I’m a firm believer that a person that has exhibited and has a history of having a quality character does not change. Hope I’m right!
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Post by billmurray on Jun 5, 2019 6:56:03 GMT -5
All his experiences you’re judging him on happened BEFORE the NBA blitz. We re all hoping he plays within himself and doesn’t let this “experience” change his perspective on winning basketball. True and I’m a firm believer that a person that has exhibited and has a history of having a quality character does not change. Hope I’m right! We all hope you are right but there will be many forces pushing a self centered agenda and his character will be tested. I think we have all seen situations where “where you stand depends on where you sit.” It takes a strong character to make a principled call when the result is not necessarily in your self interest.
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Post by Quackman on Jun 5, 2019 13:00:43 GMT -5
True and I’m a firm believer that a person that has exhibited and has a history of having a quality character does not change. Hope I’m right! We all hope you are right but there will be many forces pushing a self centered agenda and his character will be tested. I think we have all seen situations where “where you stand depends on where you sit.” It takes a strong character to make a principled call when the result is not necessarily in your self interest. Why worry about it? The kid has done nothing but represent Siena in away that should make all alum, students and fans proud.
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Post by nolesaint on Jun 5, 2019 13:16:55 GMT -5
We all hope you are right but there will be many forces pushing a self centered agenda and his character will be tested. I think we have all seen situations where “where you stand depends on where you sit.” It takes a strong character to make a principled call when the result is not necessarily in your self interest. Why worry about it? The kid has done nothing but represent Siena in away that should make all alum, students and fans proud. Furthermore, with Jalen's athletic limitations, if he projects as a PG in the pro's there is no way he becomes selfish. His whole mission will be to demonstrate his ability run the team in any situation and put his teammates in a position to succeed.
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I’m sort of in line with KK’s thinking on Jalen’s next season stats. I’d assume his assists go up a little since he’ll be surrounded by more scorers. Also, Saints won’t see the double triple teams against Jalen or Evan like they did this year; if those team do they’ll soon find out you can’t leace the other three players open. Jalen’s overall mins should (hopefully) go down 28-32 mins/game per JC’s interview thread. I would think Jalen’s PPG to also increase but how he scores will be different (I.e., won’t be chucking up shots as shot clock expires). Steals, blocks & rebounds may be the same. His overall efficiency should be better than this year IMO. Jalen seems to me to be the person who’ll work in his game (weaknesses) to become better and to help team play better/win. This plus his stats will continue to interest scouts. I’m just hoping they want him to continue to get better and wait for him till his college career is over. That plus many of the people thinking he’ll be a draft pick are sort of unknowns. When all the media is talking about it; then I’ll be more worried that he may be leaving. You intrigued me. So, I shall deliver in annoyingly anal detail.
Here's what I think will happen. Less total mins, but offset by tempo and efficiency, resulting in near the same results in less mins. I'd love to see Pickett get to around a 1.33 PPS. (It was 1.36 in available stats from Aquinas).
APG might only modestly change because there will be other options and he'll handle less but others could also be more efficient at scoring off his passes...and tempo will shift upward.
So, for those who are as bored at work and obsessed with numbers as I am:
Stat --- Now --- Next Year Games --- 33 --------- 33
Mins ---- 1225 ------ 1122 MPG ----- 37.1 ------ 34.0 PPG ----- 15.8 ------ 17.0 RPG ------ 4.6 ------- 5.2 APG ------ 6.7 ------- 7.0 TPG ------ 2.4 ------- 2.5 A/TO ---- 2.792 ----- 2.800 FG% ---- 43.6% ---- 47.4% 3PT% --- 34.8% ---- 36.5% FT% ---- 74.6% ----- 75.8% Stls ------ 66 -------- 68 BLKs ----- 29 -------- 30 FTM ------ 88 ------- 100 FTA ------ 118 ------- 132 3PM ------ 65 -------- 62 3PA ------ 187 ------ 170 FGM ----- 184 ------- 200 FGA ----- 422 ------- 422 PTS ----- 521 ------- 562 PPS --- 1.235 --- 1.332
I think Pickett will take less threes but make around the same and get a lot more easier 2's...which will raise his FG% and PPS.
Bump. Now that he's back, we got Harris, and potentially another guard... we're getting back close to the original assumptions.
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Post by $cott on Jun 5, 2019 13:32:27 GMT -5
You intrigued me. So, I shall deliver in annoyingly anal detail.
Here's what I think will happen. Less total mins, but offset by tempo and efficiency, resulting in near the same results in less mins. I'd love to see Pickett get to around a 1.33 PPS. (It was 1.36 in available stats from Aquinas).
APG might only modestly change because there will be other options and he'll handle less but others could also be more efficient at scoring off his passes...and tempo will shift upward.
So, for those who are as bored at work and obsessed with numbers as I am:
Stat --- Now --- Next Year Games --- 33 --------- 33
Mins ---- 1225 ------ 1122 MPG ----- 37.1 ------ 34.0 PPG ----- 15.8 ------ 17.0 RPG ------ 4.6 ------- 5.2 APG ------ 6.7 ------- 7.0 TPG ------ 2.4 ------- 2.5 A/TO ---- 2.792 ----- 2.800 FG% ---- 43.6% ---- 47.4% 3PT% --- 34.8% ---- 36.5% FT% ---- 74.6% ----- 75.8% Stls ------ 66 -------- 68 BLKs ----- 29 -------- 30 FTM ------ 88 ------- 100 FTA ------ 118 ------- 132 3PM ------ 65 -------- 62 3PA ------ 187 ------ 170 FGM ----- 184 ------- 200 FGA ----- 422 ------- 422 PTS ----- 521 ------- 562 PPS --- 1.235 --- 1.332
I think Pickett will take less threes but make around the same and get a lot more easier 2's...which will raise his FG% and PPS.
Bump. Now that he's back, we got Harris, and potentially another guard... we're getting back close to the original assumptions. Jalen shot 87% (46-53) from the line his last 12 games. Even in his last 20 he was 80% (64-80). I think he will be in the 80 percent range this season. I also think he will get to the line a lot more without Smithen taking a lot of late game trips to the line.
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Post by Tony on Jun 5, 2019 13:34:07 GMT -5
Not a bad take—a few comments. I think MPG will depend on how fast Carm plays. The faster we play, the less Jalen will play, and when I say less I mean 30/32 min a game.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jun 5, 2019 20:42:41 GMT -5
You intrigued me. So, I shall deliver in annoyingly anal detail.
Here's what I think will happen. Less total mins, but offset by tempo and efficiency, resulting in near the same results in less mins. I'd love to see Pickett get to around a 1.33 PPS. (It was 1.36 in available stats from Aquinas).
APG might only modestly change because there will be other options and he'll handle less but others could also be more efficient at scoring off his passes...and tempo will shift upward.
So, for those who are as bored at work and obsessed with numbers as I am:
Stat --- Now --- Next Year Games --- 33 --------- 33
Mins ---- 1225 ------ 1122 MPG ----- 37.1 ------ 34.0 PPG ----- 15.8 ------ 17.0 RPG ------ 4.6 ------- 5.2 APG ------ 6.7 ------- 7.0 TPG ------ 2.4 ------- 2.5 A/TO ---- 2.792 ----- 2.800 FG% ---- 43.6% ---- 47.4% 3PT% --- 34.8% ---- 36.5% FT% ---- 74.6% ----- 75.8% Stls ------ 66 -------- 68 BLKs ----- 29 -------- 30 FTM ------ 88 ------- 100 FTA ------ 118 ------- 132 3PM ------ 65 -------- 62 3PA ------ 187 ------ 170 FGM ----- 184 ------- 200 FGA ----- 422 ------- 422 PTS ----- 521 ------- 562 PPS --- 1.235 --- 1.332
I think Pickett will take less threes but make around the same and get a lot more easier 2's...which will raise his FG% and PPS.
Bump. Now that he's back, we got Harris, and potentially another guard... we're getting back close to the original assumptions. Funny, and I never wavered in my original post/assumption weather we got Harris or not; but I am glad we got him as one of our last two available ships.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jul 8, 2019 11:25:36 GMT -5
“Pickett is likely going to find himself as a first team All-Conference selection, and if he has a season like he did a year ago the argument for him as the Player of the Year in the MAAC will be warranted and the sophomore has a great case. Pickett does have a good team around him to help him pick up some of the scoring load. Sophomore forward Sloan Seymour is a great shooter and when paired with Pickett have a chance to be one of the better duos in the conference.” Is this true, 35 MAAC players played in NBA? “If the Saints make the tournament it should be expected that Pickett takes his talents to the NBA to fulfill his boyhood dream. He should be player No. 35 to represent the MAAC in the NBA.”
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