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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 13, 2022 17:17:23 GMT -5
I watched a Vermont game the other night and the announcer mentioned they didnt have one kid leave their program last year. That means something. Especially from a winning program where playing time is tough to come by.
IF the NCAA rule goes back to transfers having to sit out a year if they've already transferred once, expect the transfer portal to slow down quite a bit.
WE need at least 2 bigs next year. One freshman and one transfer that is ready to play would be nice. And obviously a pure PG. I'd prefer an older one with at least 2 years experience.
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Post by $cott on Jan 13, 2022 17:27:55 GMT -5
Might be the smart way to go these days. Rossiter most likely wouldn't have lasted 4 years here in this day and age. I disagree (not entirely but to an extent). Granted the last few years have weird between the new transfer rules and COVID we’ve seen a huge increase in premature departures. The rules most likely won’t change anytime soon but hopefully COVID will become less of a factor. That said, I still expect the occasional outbound transfer BUT, I don’t think that a player that can go higher will automatically jump ship. If a player is truly happy at whatever institution, with the coach, the team, the program…I think most players will stay, even if they can go higher (unless they’re a legit NBA prospect that needs to showcase their talent at a higher level). The key is to create an environment in which players are happy. Playing, winning and really being connected to the team, the program, the fans, the community all go a long way to players being happy. I’m not suggesting capitulating to players’ every whim but really focusing on the elements that keep players happy should go a long way to keeping most players around. This would all be great but I think the no sit out rule is going to make it too hard for most of these kids to not try and see if the grass is greener. I'd rather assume they are all leaving and then anyone that stays is a pleasant surprise.
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Post by indian82 on Jan 13, 2022 17:47:16 GMT -5
Might be the smart way to go these days. Rossiter most likely wouldn't have lasted 4 years here in this day and age. I disagree (not entirely but to an extent). Granted the last few years have weird between the new transfer rules and COVID we’ve seen a huge increase in premature departures. The rules most likely won’t change anytime soon but hopefully COVID will become less of a factor. That said, I still expect the occasional outbound transfer BUT, I don’t think that a player that can go higher will automatically jump ship. If a player is truly happy at whatever institution, with the coach, the team, the program…I think most players will stay, even if they can go higher (unless they’re a legit NBA prospect that needs to showcase their talent at a higher level). The key is to create an environment in which players are happy. Playing, winning and really being connected to the team, the program, the fans, the community all go a long way to players being happy. I’m not suggesting capitulating to players’ every whim but really focusing on the elements that keep players happy should go a long way to keeping most players around. I hope you're right. That's yet to be determined and at best I think it's a few years away.
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Post by class94 on Jan 13, 2022 18:09:01 GMT -5
I disagree (not entirely but to an extent). Granted the last few years have weird between the new transfer rules and COVID we’ve seen a huge increase in premature departures. The rules most likely won’t change anytime soon but hopefully COVID will become less of a factor. That said, I still expect the occasional outbound transfer BUT, I don’t think that a player that can go higher will automatically jump ship. If a player is truly happy at whatever institution, with the coach, the team, the program…I think most players will stay, even if they can go higher (unless they’re a legit NBA prospect that needs to showcase their talent at a higher level). The key is to create an environment in which players are happy. Playing, winning and really being connected to the team, the program, the fans, the community all go a long way to players being happy. I’m not suggesting capitulating to players’ every whim but really focusing on the elements that keep players happy should go a long way to keeping most players around. I hope you're right. That's yet to be determined and at best I think it's a few years away. …and obviously, I’m not implying that just because I’m saying that keeping players happy in a positive, winning environment will keep most players does NOT necessarily mean that this will be the case at Siena. It is entirely possible that some players are not happy, whether it be due to playing time or not playing in their preferred position, or not winning enough or getting enough minutes, etc. Just saying that creating an environment in which players feel valued and happy goes a LONG way to players remaining loyal to their program and not jumping ship just because they’ve heard of some green grass somewhere else.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 13, 2022 20:42:17 GMT -5
I watched a Vermont game the other night and the announcer mentioned they didnt have one kid leave their program last year. That means something. Especially from a winning program where playing time is tough to come by. IF the NCAA rule goes back to transfers having to sit out a year if they've already transferred once, expect the transfer portal to slow down quite a bit. WE need at least 2 bigs next year. One freshman and one transfer that is ready to play would be nice. And obviously a pure PG. I'd prefer an older one with at least 2 years experience. Agree, I think “when” Siena gets back to its winning MAAC Championship ways; we’ll see fewer players leave. JMO
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 19, 2022 23:34:32 GMT -5
Payton Shumpert a 6'7" SF from Syracuse has left StonyBrook. Only played 4 games (8 min/5ppg) so guessing he'd have 4 years left. Real nice 3 pt stroke for a 6'7" kid. Attended Woodstock Academy after JD, so he'll probably be a 20 yo freshman. Those usually pay dividends down the road.
Dad played for Boeheim. Picked the Seawolves over UMass, Hofstra and Rider. Think he played AAU for the NY Jayhawks, not the City Rocks.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 2, 2022 10:55:12 GMT -5
There's a kid at Notre Dame thats in his 2nd year, so he's a freshman, that could be of interest to us. Matt Zona, a 6'9" 240 center that can shoot 3's, never plays for them. Writing could be on the wall at that level. He played at Bergen Catholic HS (NJ) and was pretty highly recruited. Catch is, his Dad played basketball at Iona. Hoping he would want to play his last 3 years for us and try to beat Dads alma mater!! Maybe Wyche could help us out, and free up a scholarship for ND at the same time.
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 2, 2022 11:07:44 GMT -5
And the big kid at Butler who played for Rocks is in same boat, Miles Wilmoth. Should be a target for us
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Post by goldsaint17 on Feb 2, 2022 11:30:18 GMT -5
Wilmoth is worth watching.
Notre Dame has another big kid, Elijah Taylor, from Philly who could go in the portal.
Wyche can help us with either.
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 2, 2022 18:23:18 GMT -5
Carm scouting at the Academy game tonight. Presumably watching Tillery kid
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Post by billmurray on Feb 3, 2022 9:53:54 GMT -5
What about the Mulvey kid at Iowa. He is getting very limited if any PT at this time and the kid they have at the center position isn't tearing it up. The future for Iowa bigs goes through the Murray brothers. It looks like anyone else need not apply.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Feb 3, 2022 10:17:15 GMT -5
What about the Mulvey kid at Iowa. He is getting very limited if any PT at this time and the kid they have at the center position isn't tearing it up. The future for Iowa bigs goes through the Murray brothers. It looks like anyone else need not apply. I would imagine Mulvey sticks it out one more year, remember he reclassified up to come to Iowa this year and has built a long relationship with Fran.
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 3, 2022 11:03:17 GMT -5
I watched a Vermont game the other night and the announcer mentioned they didnt have one kid leave their program last year. That means something. Especially from a winning program where playing time is tough to come by. IF the NCAA rule goes back to transfers having to sit out a year if they've already transferred once, expect the transfer portal to slow down quite a bit. WE need at least 2 bigs next year. One freshman and one transfer that is ready to play would be nice. And obviously a pure PG. I'd prefer an older one with at least 2 years experience. isn't the actual rule now, is that you get ONE transfer where you don't have to sit, thus if you decide on another transfer you would have to sit the 1 year............or are they flipflopping on that............
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 3, 2022 12:11:08 GMT -5
What about the Mulvey kid at Iowa. He is getting very limited if any PT at this time and the kid they have at the center position isn't tearing it up. The future for Iowa bigs goes through the Murray brothers. It looks like anyone else need not apply. I would imagine Mulvey sticks it out one more year, remember he reclassified up to come to Iowa this year and has built a long relationship with Fran. He reclassified to his original class
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Post by MTS on Feb 3, 2022 22:44:49 GMT -5
I watched a Vermont game the other night and the announcer mentioned they didnt have one kid leave their program last year. That means something. Especially from a winning program where playing time is tough to come by. IF the NCAA rule goes back to transfers having to sit out a year if they've already transferred once, expect the transfer portal to slow down quite a bit. WE need at least 2 bigs next year. One freshman and one transfer that is ready to play would be nice. And obviously a pure PG. I'd prefer an older one with at least 2 years experience. isn't the actual rule now, is that you get ONE transfer where you don't have to sit, thus if you decide on another transfer you would have to sit the 1 year............or are they flipflopping on that............ That is the rule. One transfer without sitting out. A second transfer you have to sit a year.
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